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13-07-2016, 10:12 AM
Guerny

RE: shirt sales

You are all crazy!!
I've already ordered next seasons jersey with "LONG WANG" printed across the back.

Get on board you f**kers!
13-07-2016, 10:40 AM
borat

I am actually supportive of this as a concept. Signing a Chinese player as a means to promote the Jets in China and bring in much needed sponsorship and exposure makes perfect sense. But its the timing of this that what bothers me the most.

Miller left these 2 positions open for a reason, he wanted to spend whatever we had left in the cap on the best 2 attacking players we could recruit. We signed younger inexperienced players like Clut and Duncan, imo, to free salary cap space for these signings. We may not have signed Brown for instance, and instead gone for a legitimate attacker rather than a utility type player. It seems that we had a plan for recruitment and its being derailed now. And despite that its still fine as he is the owner and thats what he wants to do, but to then say the goal is to make top 3 within a couple of seasons is at odds to this. If the team is to become a developmental team for Chinese players thats one thing but they won't be coming close to the top 6. Mariners for example, are a developmental team for meth addicts and vagabonds.

Just waiting now on the inevitable pressure to be applied to Miller to play this player over better performing team mates.
13-07-2016, 12:27 PM
anfield

Quote:

Originally Posted by borat

I am actually supportive of this as a concept. Signing a Chinese player as a means to promote the Jets in China and bring in much needed sponsorship and exposure makes perfect sense. But its the timing of this that what bothers me the most.

Miller left these 2 positions open for a reason, he wanted to spend whatever we had left in the cap on the best 2 attacking players we could recruit. We signed younger inexperienced players like Clut and Duncan, imo, to free salary cap space for these signings. We may not have signed Brown for instance, and instead gone for a legitimate attacker rather than a utility type player. It seems that we had a plan for recruitment and its being derailed now. And despite that its still fine as he is the owner and thats what he wants to do, but to then say the goal is to make top 3 within a couple of seasons is at odds to this. If the team is to become a developmental team for Chinese players thats one thing but they won't be coming close to the top 6. Mariners for example, are a developmental team for meth addicts and vagabonds.

Just waiting now on the enviable pressure to be applied to Miller to play this player over better performing team mates.

I agree with many of these points. The facts are whatever Chinese player comes wont be up to the required standard, unless the are in the marqee category.

There is alot of money in Chinese football at the moment. Any decent Chinese player will stay in their league where the money is.

Chinese football is a long way behind japan and south Korea in terms of player talent produced.

The only way forward is getting 2-3 Chinese kids to join the youth team. Im sure FFA could bend some rules if needed to allow this.
13-07-2016, 12:31 PM
stopper2

Quote:

Originally Posted by borat

I am actually supportive of this as a concept. Signing a Chinese player as a means to promote the Jets in China and bring in much needed sponsorship and exposure makes perfect sense. But its the timing of this that what bothers me the most.

Miller left these 2 positions open for a reason, he wanted to spend whatever we had left in the cap on the best 2 attacking players we could recruit. We signed younger inexperienced players like Clut and Duncan, imo, to free salary cap space for these signings. We may not have signed Brown for instance, and instead gone for a legitimate attacker rather than a utility type player. It seems that we had a plan for recruitment and its being derailed now. And despite that its still fine as he is the owner and thats what he wants to do, but to then say the goal is to make top 3 within a couple of seasons is at odds to this. If the team is to become a developmental team for Chinese players thats one thing but they won't be coming close to the top 6. Mariners for example, are a developmental team for meth addicts and vagabonds.

Just waiting now on the enviable pressure to be applied to Miller to play this player over better performing team mates.

Stop it Borat, you are making too much sense!
Seriously though, if Miller had some European based players earmarked for the 2 visa spots and now he gets told he will have to trial some Chinese players and sign one of them, I don't think he would be too impressed.
13-07-2016, 12:34 PM
Grimario

Quote:

Originally Posted by anfield

I agree with many of these points. The facts are whatever Chinese player comes wont be up to the required standard, unless the are in the marqee category.

There is alot of money in Chinese football at the moment. Any decent Chinese player will stay in their league where the money is.

Chinese football is a long way behind japan and south Korea in terms of player talent produced.

The only way forward is getting 2-3 Chinese kids to join the youth team. Im sure FFA could bend some rules if needed to allow this.

Unless the Chinese player is at a club where a gazillion dollar signing has just been put in in front of them. Some players actually want to play, develop and improve, not just earn money, yeah?
13-07-2016, 12:50 PM
stopper2

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Originally Posted by Grimario

Unless the Chinese player is at a club where a gazillion dollar signing has just been put in in front of them. Some players actually want to play, develop and improve, not just earn money, yeah?

Yes, Song was a prime example of that. Wanted to test himself in a physically tougher league like ours with the ultimate goal of playing in Europe, yet he could've earned a lot more in his home country of South Korea
13-07-2016, 01:04 PM
Grimario

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Originally Posted by stopper2

Yes, Song was a prime example of that. Wanted to test himself in a physically tougher league like ours with the ultimate goal of playing in Europe, yet he could've earned a lot more in his home country of South Korea

Yep, that's the type of development player we should be looking at and given the ties Ledman/Lee has with the CFA, I wouldn't be surprised if we got a Chinese youth international or former youth international in.
13-07-2016, 02:07 PM
MFKS

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Originally Posted by Grimario

Yep, that's the type of development player we should be looking at and given the ties Ledman/Lee has with the CFA, I wouldn't be surprised if we got a Chinese youth international or former youth international in.

This is the Jets we are talking about.

We be lucky to get the Chinese kid doing the dishes at the Chinese Restaurant at Wallsend Plaza doing 3 dishes and Rice/Noodles for $9.90
13-07-2016, 02:11 PM
Grimario

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Originally Posted by MFKS

This is the Jets we are talking about.

We be lucky to get the Chinese kid doing the dishes at the Chinese Restaurant at Wallsend Plaza doing 3 dishes and Rice/Noodles for $9.90

Where's that place? I might be living in Wallsend soon...
14-07-2016, 06:45 AM
anfield

Quote:

Originally Posted by stopper2

Yes, Song was a prime example of that. Wanted to test himself in a physically tougher league like ours with the ultimate goal of playing in Europe, yet he could've earned a lot more in his home country of South Korea

I hear your point. But song was from south Korea, A much stronger football country then china. China has less depth, which makes their players in more demand in their homeland.
14-07-2016, 07:30 AM
leftrightout

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Originally Posted by anfield

I hear your point. But song was from south Korea, A much stronger football country then china. China has less depth, which makes their players in more demand in their homeland.

China has invested a crazy amount of money into development of football in the last 5 or so years. You will start to see kids coming through from that investment now. Chinese national team is only going to get stronger and stronger.
14-07-2016, 09:20 AM
Grimario

Quote:

Originally Posted by leftrightout

China has invested a crazy amount of money into development of football in the last 5 or so years. You will start to see kids coming through from that investment now. Chinese national team is only going to get stronger and stronger.

Like the swimming team a few years back?
14-07-2016, 09:26 AM
anfield

Quote:

Originally Posted by leftrightout

China has invested a crazy amount of money into development of football in the last 5 or so years. You will start to see kids coming through from that investment now. Chinese national team is only going to get stronger and stronger.

They will get stronger, but it will take time. Miller and supporters want Visa players to have istant impact. Otherwise might as well use Australian players.
14-07-2016, 09:31 AM
skippy

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Originally Posted by Grimario

Where's that place? I might be living in Wallsend soon...

Mezz bar is the only thing you need to know about living in Wallsend champ. That and the 10 ticket schooner book at the lemony.
14-07-2016, 12:48 PM
The Dunster

FFA needs to introduce a 451 VISA Marquee
14-07-2016, 02:03 PM
Grimario

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/40...als-with-jets/

Miller full of praise for him, reckon it's nailed on.

Did not like the last line though...

Quote:

Meanwhile, Jets defender Daniel Alessi suffered a serious knee injury at training last week.
14-07-2016, 02:21 PM
borat

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Originally Posted by Grimario

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/40...als-with-jets/

Miller full of praise for him, reckon it's nailed on.

Did not like the last line though...

Certainly sounds like it but someone will have to leave to accommodate him. Wonder who that will be. My money is on Cooper at this stage.
14-07-2016, 03:44 PM
lil_masi

Alessi out for the season. Very disappointing!!
14-07-2016, 03:47 PM
Grimario

http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/arti...s1fg6d3pk8j2o6

FFS.
14-07-2016, 03:55 PM
Jeterpool

Nabbout injury replacement is my guess
14-07-2016, 03:56 PM
Jetmaster

Left back - start again.
14-07-2016, 04:04 PM
lil_masi

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Originally Posted by Jeterpool

Nabbout injury replacement is my guess

Doubt it. We'll need to find another u20s player. Unfortunately because Alessi could cover both RB and CB
14-07-2016, 04:39 PM
Jeterpool

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Originally Posted by lil_masi

Doubt it. We'll need to find another u20s player. Unfortunately because Alessi could cover both RB and CB

Fair point.
14-07-2016, 05:18 PM
MFKS

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Originally Posted by lil_masi

Alessi out for the season. Very disappointing!!

We certain he wasn't like that when we signed him??

Wouldn't put it past the club to sign blokes with busted knees to big money contracts

Sounds like the kind of stupid thing we would do
14-07-2016, 05:21 PM
Jeterpool

It's disappointing for the young bloke. I hope he has a good recovery and comes back to us next season stronger
14-07-2016, 05:35 PM
borat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeterpool

Nabbout injury replacement is my guess

Nabbout is 23 so not possible as an injury replacement for Allessi who is one of our u20s.

I doubt they will replace Allesi
14-07-2016, 05:40 PM
MFKS

Quote:

Originally Posted by borat

Nabbout is 23 so not possible as an injury replacement for Allessi who is one of our u20s.

I doubt they will replace Allesi

Does this U 20 bloke have to be a Skip or could we bring a Chinese kid in??
14-07-2016, 05:48 PM
borat

Quote:

Originally Posted by MFKS

Does this U 20 bloke have to be a Skip or could we bring a Chinese kid in??

Must be Australian.
14-07-2016, 06:17 PM
furns

Quote:

Originally Posted by MFKS

We certain he wasn't like that when we signed him??

Wouldn't put it past the club to sign blokes with busted knees to big money contracts

Sounds like the kind of stupid thing we would do

unless you're his agent - how would you know how much coin he is on? It's more likely he is playing for peanuts considering he is on an u20's contract and had very few senior appearances.
Remember, Middleby, Palmer and Stubbins have gone ffs. Time to give the new organisation the benefit of the doubt a little more often, because the constant negativity in here drives ppl away from this website. I want people to join and actually stay here because they enjoy talking to fellow Jets supporters, not lurk on here for a week and then decide "f*ck that shit". Which is what currently happens.
14-07-2016, 09:01 PM
Cyc10n

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Originally Posted by furns

unless you're his agent - how would you know how much coin he is on? It's more likely he is playing for peanuts considering he is on an u20's contract and had very few senior appearances.
Remember, Middleby, Palmer and Stubbins have gone ffs. Time to give the new organisation the benefit of the doubt a little more often, because the constant negativity in here drives ppl away from this website. I want people to join and actually stay here because they enjoy talking to fellow Jets supporters, not lurk on here for a week and then decide "f*ck that shit". Which is what currently happens.

I agree with you furns, I haven't written on the forum for a while and before that I had only posted a couple of times, there seems to be a lot of negativity on the forum and I've been looking at the forum every couple of days for years and it seems to be the same people commenting day in and day out, the forum hasn't really gone up with new people coming in and having their say.
I can tell you alessi did his injury a little while ago as I was at the doctor when they booked the poor kid in to get looked at..
14-07-2016, 09:11 PM
sammydog

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Originally Posted by furns

Time to give the new organisation the benefit of the doubt a little more often, because the constant negativity in here drives ppl away from this website. I want people to join and actually stay here because they enjoy talking to fellow Jets supporters, not lurk on here for a week and then decide "f*ck that shit". Which is what currently happens.

Fully agree with this.

Good luck enforcing it. Take out the negative stuff from the forum and all you'll have is tumbleweeds.

F@ck, I think thats me being negative........sorry.
14-07-2016, 09:32 PM
belchardo

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Originally Posted by sammydog

Fully agree with this.

Good luck enforcing it. Take out the negative stuff from the forum and all you'll have is tumbleweeds.

F@ck, I think thats me being negative........sorry.

Is it positive to say that tumbleweeds would provide better commentary than some on here? :rof:
14-07-2016, 09:42 PM
plague

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Originally Posted by Cyc10n

there seems to be a lot of negativity on the forum and I've been looking at the forum every couple of days for years and it seems to be the same people commenting day in and day out,

I don't see a lot of negativity at all.

I see a lot of frustrated fans looking back on the best part of a decade of failure on and off the park.

I also see a lot of optimism from fans who are more than happy to believe the new regime is going to be different from the last.

Both these groups deserve the same airspace as far as I'm concerned.

Then there are the outrageously funny blokes who are not only handsome and funny but enjoy the shitshow and feel entitled to just have a laugh at life every now and then.

Their opinion (and handsomeness) should also be respected (and laughed at).
14-07-2016, 10:24 PM
sammydog

Quote:

Originally Posted by plague

I don't see a lot of negativity at all.

I see a lot of frustrated fans looking back on the best part of a decade of failure on and off the park.

I also see a lot of optimism from fans who are more than happy to believe the new regime is going to be different from the last.

Both these groups deserve the same airspace as far as I'm concerned.

Then there are the outrageously funny blokes who are not only handsome and funny but enjoy the shitshow and feel entitled to just have a laugh at life every now and then.

Their opinion (and handsomeness) should also be respected (and laughed at).

Which one of the aforementioned three groups do you fit in?
14-07-2016, 10:38 PM
hawk

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Originally Posted by sammydog

Which one of the aforementioned three groups do you fit in?

all 3 for a lot on here
14-07-2016, 10:41 PM
sammydog

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Originally Posted by hawk

all 3 for a lot on here

See, I was thinking that handsome ruled pretty much everyone out of the third option.
14-07-2016, 10:41 PM
plague

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammydog

Which one of the aforementioned three groups do you fit in?

All 4.
15-07-2016, 07:49 AM
Wilso8948

Thanks for the kind words Plague.

Anyone else think Alessi is just Baressi in disguise? Probably the same Knee. Conspiracy.
15-07-2016, 08:32 AM
plague

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Originally Posted by Wilso8948

Thanks for the kind words Plague.

Wilso gets it.
Hawk gets it.

#alltakesmatter
15-07-2016, 11:33 AM
Grimario

Our last remaining left back stretchered off at training...

https://twitter.com/B5Grant/status/753764065424486402

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