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Originally Posted by MFKS
He did absolutely NOTHING tonight to make me think he has anymore of a clue than last season.
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Originally Posted by MFKS
He did absolutely NOTHING tonight to make me think he has anymore of a clue than last season.
Kale has played how much A-League again?
Exactly. He hasn't been shit for another club before getting the opportunity to be shit for us. Why aren't we giving our youth a chance to be shit for us bringing in players that failed elsewhere?Quote:
Originally Posted by furns
Because the main issue with our team last season was too much youth and not enough experienced heads.
Gibbs has at least has played at HAL level.
We have thrown enough youth into the deep end imo and will look much better once Burns, Heskey, Aliens, etc enter the mix
Am not saying they are he answer to all our issues, but christ people its effing preseason. The season doesnt start until October, now is the time to try things without worrying about results.
So if we're trying things without worrying about results, why not give Kale half a game against A-league opposition? Instead of giving a full game to Gibbs who did nothing. I thought Kale did ok against the NBN Select team at Edgy, whereas Gibbs looked lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by furns
:gent:GVE has had TWO WHOLE YEARS! to get the team to play how he wants and to gel together and there has been no improvement at all. We still look disjointed, we still don't seem to know how to play through teams consistently rather than hoof long balls which is pretty important in a possession based game, we still entirely rely on Heskey and our best performer by a mile is still our goalkeeper.Quote:
Originally Posted by furns
Dont worry though, still 2 months to go. It's only pre season :gent:
GVE has had two years or so to try shit out and his shit aint working. By now he should have either purchased the players required to play a system of his choosing or to have chosen a system suitable for the players he has available to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by furns
He's failed on both accounts.
I didn't get to see the wellington game but imo there's absolutely no excuse, partiularly this early, to be losing to wellington. Wellington are a side who have booted somewhere around 10 players, gotten a brand new coach, and have only had him for a month or so. Wellington are in the excuse-zone that GVE milked for more than a year ffs. Were we even mildly convincing?
The problem with a bad preseason is gve is going to use it as an excuse to why the season will start so poorly. It's almost dejavu from last season. Expect virgili to score a solitary goal v ccm in tamworth and everyone to think the season will be saved. And we'll be as shit as last year, again
so how many games until GVE gets the sack and Bridges takes over as caretaker manager?
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Originally Posted by The Dunster
Maito Mitch = Dunster's sock? :gent:Quote:
Originally Posted by Maito Mitch
Or everyone is coming to the same conclusions, finally. GVE is a dud. Watch us get pumped by a bunch of 30+ year olds at Sydney on the opening weekend and GVE magically disappear to a job with the Indonesian Institute of Sports or something.
The biggest mystery is how this nerdish dweeb has hoodwinked people for so long.
Unfortuntately it is now appears to be a matter of bucks with Tinks unlikely to want to pay him out.
I think that is probably the issue unless he walks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raw Boned Youngster
Bookmarking this post so it will be easily accessible when the time comes.Quote:
Originally Posted by boz-monaut
Kale's effortsQuote:
Originally Posted by furns
NBN last season in a decent side 20 odd goals in 20 games
NYL last season 16 goals in about 18 games when he played second fiddle to the likes of Taggart Jesic Bridges and co
NBN this season in a shit side 14 goals in 15 and a half games
Now as far as I am concerned the kid deserves a chance in these HAL warm up games at the minimum. On another note our dickhead of a manager should be giving chances to NEWY players within his set up who are doing the business rather than wasting a squad spot on a GYPO hack that can't usurp Dino Kressinger. We carried Oxborrow in the HAL squad last season and I would sure as hell rather we had Kale who may bag some goals if given a chance in the squad rather than this Gypo Tryhard who could not score in a brothel.
As for it only being pre season. :wtf: I couldn't give two ****s at all that we lost last night. I don't really care about winning these games unlike some people.
What I do give two ****s about is that now I have seen a few efforts and I see no reasons at all to say we are improving.
We are as banally shithouse with NFI as we were the last 2 years under Egg and even if we signed Messi and Cr7 we would still be shit. The same problems we had last year are not rectified and haven't been attempted to be rectified.
$3.75 we are paying for the spoon and we are over priced in my opinion
On another note your mate could relieve us of this impending disaster right now by firing the goose if he was a top notch CEO. As he isn't 6 weeks in to the season and you can bet your arse that GVE's head will be on the chopping block when the same shit gets dished up again.
I am not saying that GVE hasnt been given enough chances, and I am not saying he wont be under the microscope. In fact I have said it publicly to anyone who has asked (and on podcasts etc) that I think GVE will be lucky to survive before Xmas if things continue as they are.
I am however saying that people are getting too negative regarding preseason results especially when he is trying different systems and making wholesale changes in each half. And that we have five or six first team players who havent even played yet.
What I'll be most interested in is if Middleby has set this thing up so gve needs to perform by x amount of games or he's out, who they have lined up for his potential replacement. Gve came in what 3 games into that first season and hsg were talking about how disruptive it was and blah blah blah. Why are they making the same mistake again then?
Its easy to say the CEO should fire him (after last season I wanted GVE removed) but this could be completely out of the CEO's hands. If HSG don't want to put up the cash to pay GVE out, it wont happen. If you were in the CEO's shoes, with no cash from the owners to remove the incumbent, how would you do it?Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Ask the supporters for a whip around. Should cover the bill pretty quickQuote:
Originally Posted by sammydog
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Originally Posted by furns
Who are these 5-6 first team players you are talking about??
Heskey Burns Jaliens is 3. Don't include Josh Mitchell James Brown and BK in your 6. Last night we had a lot of players that will be in our first choice squad.
Zads Kanta Birraz Taggart Brillante will all be in the squad somewhere in RD 1. Goodwin came on at HT. Chilli Taylor Regan and Hoole may even get spots with how they are going so it is hardly an experimental team.
There were no wholesale changes from GVE last night I think he only made 2 maybe 3 subs . There was no massive tactical gambles. We played the usual 4-3-3 and other than hoof the ball long a bit more often than usual I noticed no great tactical maneuvers being pulled. We dished up the same shit again and will continue to dish up the same shit again all season
You are correct that Heskey Burns and Jaliens is 3
However Mitchell, Chapman, Caravella and Brown were all first teamers last season so you cant just arbitrarily discount them to suit your own argument
They will all be in the mix for the first team, whether you want them or not
Zads also only came back from the UK a fortnight ago, so he is still nowhere near 100% either
Reports from the last couple of preseason games (including the one I attended at Bonnyrigg) was that we have been trying a 343 as well as 433, along with shifting around various players to play behind a striker (Gibbs)
Caravella came on last night and done nothing. I think you will find him behind Zads/Kanta/Brillante for midfield roles anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by furns
Chapman has been already involved in a few preseason games but sat out last night so it ain't like he hasn't been sighted.
I will discount Mitchell as a first teamer cause he ain't. Chapman and Jaliens will be ahead of him definitely and Taylor will be also assuming the Egg doesn't have him running laps still for that incident in Wellington.
Brown is too far behind the others physically to get a realistic look in at the start of the season but who knows with our overlord
Those who went last night will confirm there was no massive tactical tweakings and it stayed more or less the same predictable way all game
Ffs get this joker out!
The Member or GVE?Quote:
Originally Posted by Imyourhero
6-8 I'd say.Quote:
Originally Posted by boz-monaut
gve out!Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Nice use of the word "arbitrarily" Furns.
We could always hope for GVE to be summoned to Singapore on the day of the season launch.
I used up those hopes with the Singapore sixes.Quote:
Originally Posted by 380
Furns raises a valid point here.Quote:
Originally Posted by furns
but what concerns me most is that if the fans can get back up to form with our snarky comments, hysterical critisism and over the top outrage, why the **** does it take so long for the players and coaches to get back to their best?
Jesus, some of us even only do this stuff part time, the players have 24/7.
and now they've got a week off ffs!
get the ****ing tyres out dutchy these blokes are going up the dunes
surely if dodd was in charge none of this would be happening.
We don't want to overwork the players so they will be ready for the gruelling A-league season that is so long. Iirc when Man Utd were here they trained twice a day each day of their trip as well as doing media work and playing the Aleague No Stars and this was less then a month before the kickoff of the EPL. Unless GVE and the Wonderous Mr Dodd are planning on having them work this hard after the break and actually playing for more then a token 45 minutes then the Jest will hit their peak fitness about round 7 which will be just in time to say goodbye to GVE in round 8.Quote:
Originally Posted by q-money
Then lets just start the comp at round 8 and be done with the pubic haired head WOFTAM.
7 Losses at a token 3-0 for a forfeit would leave usQuote:
Originally Posted by 380
P 7 W 0 D 0 L 7 F 0 A 21 Pts 0
I am thinking we should take that deal now as I doubt come rd 8 we will be in as good a shape
I think we should give GVE more time.
Afterall he did win the league.
thought this was the GVE out threadQuote:
Originally Posted by Blackmac79
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Originally Posted by Blackmac79
And Holden won Wheels car of the year with the Camira. At some point in time everybody ass's something.
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Originally Posted by Blackmac79
should also mention that I really enjoy the style of football we are playing. It really sits well with my life ethos.
What would that be? Play around with it round the back, build up slowly, spread it wide before going for the goal but lose it all with the wrong decision in front of the goal? :gent:Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackmac79