2017/18 Squad Thread

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Originally Posted by white city

i would hope so,

i only say that as i thought merrick's wish list included bringing in another CM??

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I don't think I have ever heard him say that. The press speculated it was Milligan but that seems extremely unlikely. Merrick made mention of our defensive problems and discipline, but I figure NTS is in response.

Merrick first decision was to re-sign Kanta and I suspect that was the DM he wanted rather than recruiting from outside the club. But I could be reading it all wrong and all depends on the preferred formation Merrick wants to play. If we reverted to 433 then another CM would be needed.

Personally I would prefer another goal threat.

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Originally Posted by borat

I totally disagree, in fact its the opposite. We are now stacked with defenders and defensive midfielders, by my count 12 or half the squad. You will see both the last signings will be attacking players, most likely a RW/LW or a AM/RW/LW. Burns is the likely given the comments from McKinna, although I suspect we will end up with an Australian of a lesser standard.

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Scott McDonald?

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Originally Posted by borat

The press speculated it was Milligan but that seems extremely unlikely.

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I will be extremely surprised if Milligan comes back to the A-League, after basically confirming his intentions to stay abroad.

Today I've read an article saying he is looking at coming back to Australia, and have also read comments of him heading to the English Championship.

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Originally Posted by pv4

I will be extremely surprised if Milligan comes back to the A-League, after basically confirming his intentions to stay abroad.

Today I've read an article saying he is looking at coming back to Australia, and have also read comments of him heading to the English Championship.

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I am not biting gypo

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Originally Posted by pv4

I will be extremely surprised if Milligan comes back to the A-League, after basically confirming his intentions to stay abroad.

Today I've read an article saying he is looking at coming back to Australia, and have also read comments of him heading to the English Championship.

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TWG have the usual rehashed "exclusive" of him potentially going back to Victree...

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Originally Posted by borat

I don't think I have ever heard him say that. The press speculated it was Milligan but that seems extremely unlikely.

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And the random guy I was standing next to at the ffa cup game the other night. Probably just as reliable as the press.

Well considering we still have 2 Visa spots available, I will toss up a familiar name

Harry Novillo was relegated from Baniyas with Mark Milligan. Scored 7 in 9 games there and previously scored 13 in 31 for Melbourne City as a winger. Could be worth a look. He left City in fairly acrimonious circumstances but was never charged for anything

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Originally Posted by white city

To change the talk about NTS.

given we now have 2 spots remaining i think it is fairly clear to see that the chinese player will be the AM/W

and the other spot will be the CM/DM so i think that will be the only other significant player signing we will see, whether that be a foreigner or aussie is yet to be known.

I think Petratos signing has shut the door on Nathan Burns

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Why does the chinese player have to be an AM/W?
Why cant Burns be the major target for the front 3rd and the chinese player add cover for DM/CM?

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Originally Posted by tomo

Why does the chinese player have to be an AM/W?
Why cant Burns be the major target for the front 3rd and the chinese player add cover for DM/CM?

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Agreed, let's sign Zhi Zheng

That also being said we also lacking options up front

Our Caravan and Kokko are it

Last season we were lacking in numbers at times and we had Kokko Nordstrand Labi and Bymora

Maybe some reinforcement in this area even if they are a squaddy

I also think we will see some movement out of the squad after Bert gets to assess the squad once training starts because there no way he going to be happy with what he got once he has a look first hand how shit they are

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Originally Posted by MFKS

That also being said we also lacking options up front

Our Caravan and Kokko are it

Last season we were lacking in numbers at times and we had Kokko Nordstrand Labi and Bymora

Maybe some reinforcement in this area even if they are a squaddy

I also think we will see some movement out of the squad after Bert gets to assess the squad once training starts because there no way he going to be happy with what he got once he has a look first hand how shit they are

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We need An Am and another CM b4 striker unless Kanta and Brown can have amazing seasons

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Originally Posted by MFKS

That also being said we also lacking options up front

Our Caravan and Kokko are it

Last season we were lacking in numbers at times and we had Kokko Nordstrand Labi and Bymora

Maybe some reinforcement in this area even if they are a squaddy

I also think we will see some movement out of the squad after Bert gets to assess the squad once training starts because there no way he going to be happy with what he got once he has a look first hand how shit they are

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Could Petratos, or potentially Burns, play that role if required throughout the season?

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Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET

We need An Am and another CM b4 striker unless Kanta and Brown can have amazing seasons

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I don't think we need either of those honestly, why bother signing another attacking mid when we have dimi, clut, shabow and brown in that spot and another cm when we have uga, brown, kanta and johnny k in that position

what we need are wingers, at wellington i know bernie used wingers and right now we have clut and nabbout and that's about it. At victory he put archie out there so maybe caravan will be put in that position and see how that goes but that's all we got

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Originally Posted by tomo

Could Petratos, or potentially Burns, play that role if required throughout the season?

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I could see Nabbout being able to play up front as a sub striker before dimi

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Originally Posted by Mark325

I don't think we need either of those honestly, why bother signing another attacking mid when we have dimi, clut, shabow and brown in that spot and another cm when we have uga, brown, kanta and johnny k in that position

what we need are wingers, at wellington i know bernie used wingers and right now we have clut and nabbout and that's about it

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I think if burns was to sign, then him or dimi could play out wide

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Originally Posted by MFKS

That also being said we also lacking options up front

Our Caravan and Kokko are it

Last season we were lacking in numbers at times and we had Kokko Nordstrand Labi and Bymora

Maybe some reinforcement in this area even if they are a squaddy

I also think we will see some movement out of the squad after Bert gets to assess the squad once training starts because there no way he going to be happy with what he got once he has a look first hand how shit they are

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Thats why Burns is perfect because he can play any of the frontline positions

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Originally Posted by MFKS

Maybe some reinforcement in this area even if they are a squaddy

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What's going on Member?

You sat this juicy little morsel up there and no one even took a nibble?

Losing your touch son.

Maybe the Jets aren't the only ones who need a big off season.

Wait for our next signing to be Mark Bridge and for the forum to implode

Juicy little morsel

Love it

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Originally Posted by plague

What's going on Member?

You sat this juicy little morsel up there and no one even took a nibble?

Losing your touch son.

Maybe the Jets aren't the only ones who need a big off season.

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Shhh.

Someone might find the thing

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Originally Posted by steve136

Wait for our next signing to be Mark Bridge and for the forum to implode

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Thats my pick

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Originally Posted by borat

Thats why Burns is perfect because he can play any of the frontline positions

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That being said if we signed Burns he would arguably be our best player

You don't put your best player in fill in roles

You give him his best position and make the other shit ****s in the squad play out of position

Bert obviously has dealt with Burns before so he plays wherever Bert sees fit

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Originally Posted by MFKS

That being said if we signed Burns he would arguably be our best player

You don't put your best player in fill in roles

You give him his best position and make the other shit ****s in the squad play out of position

Bert obviously has dealt with Burns before so he plays wherever Bert sees fit

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We would play him in a wide attacking role or in behind the striker in my opinion. Actually he would allow for a number of different formations the more I think of it.

My point was that if an injury struck to O'Donovan then we would have a more than capable replacement with a slight shuffling of the team.

Gypo up front, Burns next to him and Kokko at centreback with Topor.

Best team.

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Originally Posted by plague

Gypo up front, Burns next to him and Kokko at centreback with Topor.

Best team.

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Kokko needs to be upfront to give NTS and Boogs something to aim for

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Originally Posted by borat

Kokko needs to be upfront to give NTS and Boogs something to aim for

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If we play that strategy we can buypass the midfield

Play 8 at the back and 2 up front

The speculated wage of o Donovan was $250k and that was us outbidding other clubs.

How some people can then assume we would be paying the same for Stoppor Tanley is baffling. My bet.. somewhere between. $140-170k

Perhaps this is the benefit of having a reputable coach and their pulling power?

For the record, Stoppor is a good get and very reliable defensively. Merrick is putting together a nice looking squad.

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Originally Posted by rhysd

The speculated wage of o Donovan was $250k and that was us outbidding other clubs.

How some people can then assume we would be paying the same for Stoppor Tanley is baffling. My bet.. somewhere between. $140-170k

Perhaps this is the benefit of having a reputable coach and their pulling power?

For the record, Stoppor is a good get and very reliable defensively. Merrick is putting together a nice looking squad.

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There is zero chance NTS has taken a 60% pay cut to come play for the coach not good enough for the Nix.

But cool story nonetheless

We afford NTS due to the increase in salary cap 300k, and to the increased player budget which allows for a marquee and a home grown player allowance. That takes 2 player salaries out of the cap which then leaves additionally 400k extra in the cap.

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Originally Posted by borat

There is zero chance NTS has taken a 60% pay cut to come play for the coach not good enough for the Nix.

But cool story nonetheless

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You can't say there is zero chance of anything, unless you are NTS himself, I'd say. Maybe he didn't like the lifestyle in Dubai and wanted to get back to the Newy beaches.. maybe Ange Postecoglu told him he needed to come home to be in the Socceroos radar again.. maybe hundreds of potential scenarios have unfolded that not-NTS isn't aware of. Didn't Ryan Griffiths offer to play for minimum salary because he wanted to be part of the club again? What's to say NTS hasn't done similar?

I reckon it is highly likely we are paying NTS in the vicinity of 200-300k. But I'm only guessing, and refuse to rule out any possibility. Hell, I've heard Boogaard is on significantly higher than that so I don't put anything past our club!

Saying there is zero chance is IMO as naive (is that how you spell that??) as completely shutting out any possibility of Mark Milligan returning to Australia, even after reading his intentionally open-ended comments about it. He basically confirmed it, yes, but he never said anything completely concrete intentionally. And even if he DID say something concrete intentionally, take Andrew Hoole's example of heading to Europe for how "easily" footballers change their minds.

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Originally Posted by pv4

You can't say there is zero chance of anything, unless you are NTS himself, I'd say. Maybe he didn't like the lifestyle in Dubai and wanted to get back to the Newy beaches.. maybe Ange Postecoglu told him he needed to come home to be in the Socceroos radar again.. maybe hundreds of potential scenarios have unfolded that not-NTS isn't aware of. Didn't Ryan Griffiths offer to play for minimum salary because he wanted to be part of the club again? What's to say NTS hasn't done similar?

I reckon it is highly likely we are paying NTS in the vicinity of 200-300k. But I'm only guessing, and refuse to rule out any possibility. Hell, I've heard Boogaard is on significantly higher than that so I don't put anything past our club!

Saying there is zero chance is IMO as naive (is that how you spell that??) as completely shutting out any possibility of Mark Milligan returning to Australia, even after reading his intentionally open-ended comments about it. He basically confirmed it, yes, but he never said anything completely concrete intentionally. And even if he DID say something concrete intentionally, take Andrew Hoole's example of heading to Europe for how "easily" footballers change their minds.

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No, you are right, I am NTS.

:rof:

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Originally Posted by borat

No, you are right, I am NTS.

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Please bring back the beard

http://www.wswanderersfc.com.au/di/l...g?t=-610951960

This was good value when he was here last....think he actually scored soon after.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTDm4l8C2zA

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Originally Posted by borat

There is zero chance NTS has taken a 60% pay cut to come play for the coach not good enough for the Nix.

But cool story nonetheless

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There's things such as investment properties, tax brackets and lifestyle choices that all come into play when looking at a salary offer. Please don't be so naive to think this bloke hasn't done the sums when weighing up all these considerations amongst many more. Sometimes accepting a pay cut when you have a long term plan in place where you can write the loss off elsewhere isn't the dumbest move ever.

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Originally Posted by Wilso8948

There's things such as investment properties, tax brackets and lifestyle choices that all come into play when looking at a salary offer. Please don't be so naive to think this bloke hasn't done the sums when weighing up all these considerations amongst many more. Sometimes accepting a pay cut when you have a long term plan in place where you can write the loss off elsewhere isn't the dumbest move ever.

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That's very true.

I wonder whether we, the punter, underestimate the impact lifesyle in Newcastle has for players. Generally, people don't know who you are so you don't get bothered. The cost of housing is significantly less than Sydney. You can pretty much access a beach for a 15 minute drive. So a $200,000 offer from Sydney vs a $170,000 from the Jets might stack up.

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Originally Posted by Wilso8948

There's things such as investment properties, tax brackets and lifestyle choices that all come into play when looking at a salary offer. Please don't be so naive to think this bloke hasn't done the sums when weighing up all these considerations amongst many more. Sometimes accepting a pay cut when you have a long term plan in place where you can write the loss off elsewhere isn't the dumbest move ever.

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Pimping the lifestyle. Is that you, Con?

Pinging the lifestyle. Is that you, Stu?

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Originally Posted by Jeterpool

That's very true.

I wonder whether we, the punter, underestimate the impact lifesyle in Newcastle has for players. Generally, people don't know who you are so you don't get bothered. The cost of housing is significantly less than Sydney. You can pretty much access a beach for a 15 minute drive. So a $200,000 offer from Sydney vs a $170,000 from the Jets might stack up.

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Agreed. If I didn't already own a home in Sydney I wouldn't even consider working there for less than $350k a year. In Newcastle even on $200k or so you can live reasonably well if you watch your spending. Our old house at Castle Hill is a shitty little 3 bedroom single garage shack - last sold for around $1.3 m - insane considering the 60 to 90 min drive to city during peak hour - if yer lucky