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Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
lucky
all the tributes coming out tonight.
lazyQuote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
lucky
all the tributes coming out tonight.
Not at all! I'm very happy that he has put away 4 from 4 in the penalty department. In fact, as a club, penalties seem to have been the one area that we are in fact ahead of the curve - putting away our penalties at a slighter higher lick than the league average.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Trif has been great from the penalty spot. He has put them away with both confidence and composure, which is not an easy thing to do. If he had shown these same traits when not taking a penalty, I would have no problem with him. Unfortunately, I don't believe this has been the case.
We all have opinions, back them up with fact and people like Plague won't shoot you down. There are these pesky things called defenders that also like to run to the exact same spot you are going to. If we had a Jamie Maclaren up front i'd agree that he should be sprinting into the box all day but that isn't what Milos is about. That said, he was still poor today. But he didn't lose us the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve136
We were poor across the park. Urga was absent for large portions of the game from what i saw. Enver was marked/fouled out of the game by Jamieson and had some horrific touches. Nobby was just as rubbish. Neither of our wingers tracked back tonight and we got slaughtered out wide.
The main thing that stuck for me tonight was our abhorrent excuse for crosses. Leo couldn't send anything decent in from open play and no one else could either. Everyone is talking about 'making runs' but we have a target man. Get in an attacking position, hold the ball up and whip in a cross. We just kept hitting Topor all day.
Wingers were crap, midfield was crap, fullbacks were crap and the rest were rubbish too.
Let's just beat the scum and finish above Sydney. We don't deserve finals football this year.
Milos has 1 job, score goals. He has scored goals. Deal with it.
No one else on the team seems to be able to score. Where is the hate for them?
Leo is an import and he can't score, assist or defend. But supposedly he is the missing link to solve all our problems??
leonardo and sometimes Enver and Nordstrand set up attacking chances and the few that we create triffo either isnt in position or he wastes them nuff saidQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
Oh Dw im ****ing fed up with Leo and Enver as well. Noddy also needs to play central before i make a judgment on himQuote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
This kind of gets to the heart of my problem with Trif. What exactly is he "about"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
If he's not the guy to make fast runs into the box, he's not the guy to make runs in behind the defence, he's not the guy that holds up the ball particularly well, he's not the guy to get an assist every now and then, he's not the guy can shoot from range, he's not the guy that will be in the right spot at the right time etc...what is he?
As I've acknowledged, he does take penalties well. But I'm not sure that should be our number 1 criteria for an import striker. I really want him to work out with us, as bringing in another guy next season up front wouldn't solve everything immediately, not to mention the whole tedious process of waiting for the new player to arrive, settle in and acclimatise. But I'm genuinely lost on what Trif brings to our team.
I would contend that Leo creates plenty of chances that should go down as assists, but due to the ineptitude around him players are unable to take the chances they are given. But that's a whole different argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
I am not particularly thrilled with any of our foreign players though, as I doubt any of us are.
go back and watch the chance that he ultimately stuffed up that i spoke about earlier. Leo and Nobby don't get near the ball unless Milos starts it 70m back down the field.Quote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
before you start mashing your face on the keyboard making silly posts watch the damn game.
He can hold the ball up, but he isn't world class at it. He has a very good touch for such a big guy and he does have the ability to bring others into play. But as a team we are honking at moving into dangerous areas. I'm not saying he is the best striker we can find, but he is the best we've got and he isn't the reason we are 7th. He is however a large part of the reason we are not 10th tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve136
Equal 6th best goal scorer in the league. Equal with Harry Novillo, Mark Bridge and Mitch Nichols. All from teams far ahead of us in the league and in quality.
i watch every jets game and i see Milos either fail to get on the end of through balls or crosses into the box. Fail to win majority of headers when challenging with CBs. Fail to hold up the ball most times which leads to lost possession. Waste chances to score when the chance arrives cause he takes too long and defender catches up or shoots completely off target. The odd good pass or hold up play and the odd penalty doesnt excuse any of this but hey if your happy with a striker like triff leading the line Plauge enjoy not playing finals footballQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
Who should we have upfront then??Quote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
maybe try one of the young blokes now season is pretty much over or play norstrand at strikerQuote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
now see this is an excellent point.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve136
i don't know jack about Milos before he got here but id be willing to wager good money he's been the exact same type of player back then as is he now.
now if we went and brought him and set up our game plan to go against everything the bloke is good at then the haters should be pointing that outrage machine over to the blokes in the Bunnings chairs rather than the player.
That's fair. I'm probably being too harsh on his ability to hold the ball up and distribute, especially given that a lot of the time he is all by himself with no Jets player within 20m when he receives the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
Regarding the fact he is level with goals to those guys, do they take penalties for their teams? I feel that's an important factor to consider when comparing goal totals.
What young blokes do you think are gonna do a better job?? I hate this crap so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
"he is crap, so let's put someone who is worse in there but give them an excuse cause they are young!!"
That's not how you build players or clubs.
Did Triff cost us this game today? Not at all, we played like crap and wanderers didn't.
No it isn't, he gets paid to score goals. They win you as many points if they are from the spot or from your own half.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve136
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Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
hey man you once believed in the tooth fairy and santa claus too.
come back to me with some legit proof/stats or keep putting that glass of milk out on Christmas eve slugger.
That's an interesting take, and shows a flaw in why I think he's not contributing enough. I have been focused 100% on his performances in his current role, without even stopping to consider whether this is the way he should be used. Definitely food for thought. I'd be fascinated to see how he was used in his previous clubs, especially considering his goal tally was pretty handy at a few of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
well then you tell me how he's soo good without the pens he'd only have 4 goals im pretty sure and he can score pens but id rather he score from open playQuote:
Originally Posted by plague