About time someone told the truth, the whole and nothing but the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
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About time someone told the truth, the whole and nothing but the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
I agree with you for a changeQuote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
About time
Who do we all think the top 5 most valuable players are how much are they worth.
1. Remington - $800 per game
2. Goodchild - $600 per game
3. Matt Thompson - $600 per game
4. John Maj - $400 per game
6. Ireland GK - $400 per game
Just my opinion
1. Bloke who has a few National team caps- $percentage of Sponsorship/Canteen and Gate revenue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dontknowmuch
2. Bloke who once lived in Europe - $see above
3. Bloke who got cut from the NYL- $see above
4. Bloke that's too old for the A-League- $see above
5. Bloke who thinks his should be in the A-League- $see above
6. Bloke that just wants to play at the highest level his abilities allows him- $see above
Pay them however much your club can afford without dipping in to little John Smiths parents pockets, with the promise of "Elite" coaching for little John.
Fair pointQuote:
Originally Posted by Premy
If a club though can raise thousands of $$ in money to pay players then some serious questions have to be asked then would that money be better spent into facilities/coaching/juniors etc rather than going into players pockets???
to be serious here, no one should really be on more than 500 a game maxQuote:
Originally Posted by Dontknowmuch
Bring in a salary cap, good luck with policing it hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by chocolate soldier
Salary cap would never work, players would just get a few extra $50s in a white envelope after the match
The points system was set up to nullify this but after one year they changed it, the points system is now useless in its current form, instead of clubs signing 3 or 4 new players each year they would have had to delve into their own player list and promote players, this then gives at least 2 or 3 young players an opportunity, an opportunity which is now removed, why ?
Way off the mark...Quote:
Originally Posted by chocolate soldier
Ireland is on $900
Maj $650
Palozzi $450
Wheelhouse $950 + his coaching clinics with Joel Griffiths soon to join jaffas and take a role in coaching his clinics.
Jaffas just offered Matty Paul of Adamstown $650 a game to transfer... there wouldnt be anyone at jaffas under $400 per week... do the math and think if its sustainable... but i do enjoy throwing my rubbish in their yellow painted paint tins when i visit Edden, much more of a challenge than Magic's plastic bins.
What about McPherson? Doubt he is playing for peanuts
Is this money being spent in the right way considering we're 0-6 in the FFA cup and 0-2 in the NPL finals since they've started!?
The players think so, but a very valid pointQuote:
Originally Posted by namwob99
Parents should realise that in any sport if the kids are good enough money will never be an issue because clubs will accept the most talented kids gratis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Premy
Hence, if it's going to cost you truck loads of money your kids most likely not good enough.
This is one aspect where Rugby League has it all over football.
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Well that went straight over your head.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
But none the less I do agree with you.
Elite programs for juniors in any sport more often than not funds wage claims for the senior teams - that otherwise would not be financially supported by their own revenues and sponsorship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Premy
The wages of players in the senior team are a function of the gullibility of parents with juniors in Elite programs.
I'd like to think it's not the case - But it probably is close enough to the mark.
With respect to the players as long as they don't lose sleep over extorting juniors I don't see a problem with it.
That's over 50k for four players. With another 10 in the team sounds like this is a hefty wage bill. I'm wondering if the kids at Jaffas NPL Youth are getting value for money as it seems they will never get the opportunity to play for their 1st team. Of course what Jaffas are doing is totally within the local rules so there is no reason to criticise them for it. The question is again is it sustainable and are their youth teams being looked after or being used as a cash cow. I suppose and ethical question.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Magician
Oh believe me it's common practice amongst some NPL, NewFM and ZPL clubs and it's a absolute disgrace.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
Assuming, of course, the numbers being bandied about are correct. Jaffas also have a fair number of sponsors, so who know how much they're raking in from sponsorships?Quote:
Originally Posted by terryk
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Originally Posted by The Magician
Joel Griffiths is going to play at Jaffas? Wonder what Leo bertos is going to be pair at olympic?
Thought the Griff was signed, sealed and delivered to Cooks Hill? I've also heard rumblings of another former HAL player running around next season at a surprising NewFM club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Football lover
Perhaps a former jets strength and conditioning coach doing some recruiting?
**** there are some stubborn dumb arses on this Forum, I'm not commenting on Edgy's track record in the past for developing players, I'm refering to NOW, under Zane, he placed his faith in young guys this season and it paid off. Just saying it would be better for the game long term if clubs followed his example.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
Think I'll just copy and paste the above again if some other imbecile repeats the same old shit again about "Edgeworth never gave a shite about development..."
I'm with you mate, so many clubs now have a short term plan, you invest in your facilities/coaching/juniors you have a stron club for the long term.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
The youth focus at Edgy is not Zane rather the club prior to Zane under Wilson. Wilson pretty much brought all the young talent that is currently at the club, he developed them over the last 2 years or so. Now that they have matured, zane is getting all the credit. But, unfortunately for Zane he doesn't quite deserve it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by stopper2
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Originally Posted by immersion
That is the dumbest comment I've ever seen. Zany was making calls you wouldn't normally let's look at Pritchy for example? Played 100 plus 1st grade games for edgy and Azzuri . Yet how many games did he start this season? He played guys like Pasquale Moore next to Luke walker almost all yr. Cameron Hughes another with a lot of experience yet played guys like Brice ahead of him. The football edgy played this yr was sparkling and for that zany deserves all the credit. Jog on fools. If they grab a out and out striker they will win it again next yr.
I agree, zaney made some big calls this year. Especially after losing 2 of the first 3 games. You can also throw Justin Tannock in there as a player zaney didn't use much this year. While Wilson and Foley did well bringing the youth through it was zaney who took the gamble and played them ahead of established 1st graders. I think his bigger test will be next year. There was a lot said about his players buying into his rotation policy, yet they have so far lost pritchard, hughes and olzehmer. Obviously not all happy with limited game time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Football lover
Thanks mate, that's the point I've been trying to make. It was a gamble by Zane to put his faith in untried youth and it paid off.Quote:
Originally Posted by winner
I'm not affiliated with Edgy in any shape or form but I will give someone accolades if they deserve it and Zane deserves it. Meanwhile like I said before other clubs have become lazy and would prefer to try their luck on the player merry-go-round by throwing money at an experienced player.
The thing is though nothing is guaranteed, everything fell into place nicely for Zane this season, next year he might not be as fortunate.
At least he has unearthed some good young players for the future for NNSW football, how many players have other clubs unearthed? 1 maybe 2?
Where have these guys gone, any idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by winner
Pritchard to DudleyQuote:
Originally Posted by Tonester
Hughes to CCB
Olzemer to valo
I thought huhges went to wallsend
Some of these guys must have a vast array of warm up gearQuote:
Originally Posted by magician
I've heard from a few people he has signed at CCB. But who knowsQuote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
Heard today Michael Kanta from jets to lambton jaffas
"The youngest brother of Jets midfielder Ben Kantarovski joins Beau McDonald, who has joined Lambton Jaffas, as local players cut from the youth squad before the eight-game National Youth League."Quote:
Originally Posted by winner
I think you will find Michael has joined Beau as ones being cut from Youth but only Beau is going to Jaffas.
Looks like the youth league is done and dusted, return all the players to NPL clubs, let the coaches go back to there day jobs(if they have one or if they are employable), let the emerging jets extract themselves from a good competition and long live the a twelve team nnsw first division. Jaffas, magic, valo, Weston, rosebuds, azzuri, edgy, maitland, lakes, Olympic, wallsend, Toronto, belswans, cessnock, westy, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fairgo
If the Jets were somehow not in the NPL in 2017, the solution is simple - No relegation and promote the winner of NewFM 2016, for arguments sake its Lakes, then suddenly we have 2 even 10 team leagues.
Adamstown
Broadmeadow
Charlestown
Edgeworth
Hamilton
Lakes
Lambton
Maitland
Valentine
Weston
Belswans
Cessnock
Cooks Hill
Kahibah
Singleton
South Cardiff
Thornton
Toronto
Wallsend
West Wallsend
Surley Micheal Kanta will play at magic..Quote:
Originally Posted by winner
although there 10 mids will turn into 11 and if james virgilli goes there as well that will make 12
Where is virgilliQuote:
Originally Posted by Buds