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Originally Posted by Thomas477
Charlestown City Blues have access to 2 fields with access for 12 months with facilities for 7 teams, Dudley seniors have 1 field for 3 teams with access for 12 months, Kahibah have access to 2 1/2 fields with facilities with access for 6 months for about 70 teams (4 newfm, 2 ZFL teams 15 all age/35s, 8 12/18 teams, 40 odd junior teams), Dudley juniors have equivilant of 2 1/2 fields for about 25 teams, Charlestown Juniors have 1 field for about 25 teams. Valentine have 3 1/2 grounds for 90 odd teams.
Its quite obvious Kahibah needs more fields with facilities and their not the only ones, all these ratios might not be completley accurate but they would be pretty close. It may not be a case of investing millions to help individual clubs it may be a case that we starting taking over established grounds with facilities that are under utilised such as Rugby League and Union grounds. Which may push clubs a little out of their area but something needs to be done if football participation numbers keep increasing for all clubs not just the big ones.
On the other hand if the council wants to put money into football clubs to provide better facilities and grounds then i'm all for it no matter what club gains benefit from it. They have done a lot of work at Warners Bay in the off season and i'm not sure what their new facility is going to be like or when it is going to be completed but i'm sure they deserve it and it will be good for football and any other sport that plays out of their.
We need to be not so narrow minded and jealous, if a club like Magic or Edgeworth worked hard and produced a magnificent facility whether they were given handouts or not, its good for football.
Go back to playing out of Adamstown #5 hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by late_to_the_game
Not that I don't disagree with what you have to say somewhat, 3-4 years ago Kahibah had Major works done to its surface of 2 fields.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dontknowmuch
What they have at the moment is leaps and bounds better than what other clubs can offer. If this development is to go ahead I would not begrudge Kahibah one bit. However I will be seeking answer from the council as to why this project is to go ahead before other much needed projects.
The thing is, I know of several smaller clubs that are not increasing, quiet the opposite, they are decreasing at a steady rate each season. Where the players are going, more so in the juniors than the seniors, is to the bigger clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dontknowmuch
Now thats all well and fine, I have no gripes with players going to the better facilities, etc.
But, when these small clubs start folding, and I suspect it will happen to some of the smaller junior clubs, the facilities won't be taken by the big clubs, they will be lost to other sports. The AFL is desperate for playing fields. They are the ones likely to benefit from the change from a lot of small to mid sized clubs to a few mega sized clubs.
Premy,
Some of the criteria for spending on facilities, etc comes down to the amount of usage (there are other criteria, but I won't dissect those now). If there are multiple sports and a lot of people heading to the old Hotspurs grounds, then Council can justify the upgrade. It also depends how council is funding it. If it comes from s94 contributions as many upgrades do, it has to be spent in the area in which it was originally levied.
for sureQuote:
Originally Posted by Goatscheese
Its hard for clubs to retain kids and thus volunteers when "opportunities" seem bigger down the road.
Also, Didnt Merewether sell their ground to Olympic late 80's? They sold their chance
How do you sell a council ground?
Which will be to the detriment of the bigger clubs and the sport when Aussie Rules starts getting bigger in the area and kids start flocking to the game. But I doubt anyone at these big clubs happy to take as many kids as possible can see or care about the long term results. Wonder what the associations think.Quote:
Originally Posted by sammydog
Every chance I get I let the association know our experiences.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goatscheese
To be honest, I don't know what can be done. I certainly don't have any solutions. It becomes a bit of a snow ball effect though, the bigger the club gets the more cash they have which translates into better facilities and often paid coaching directors. This in turn attracts more kids and on it goes.
I can see why parents go take their kids to these clubs. But I don't think it is in the long term best interest of the game locally.
It's happening everywhere, sport, supermarkets, companies, schools............
It's they way of the times and we as consumers must want it as it continues to happen and the big are getting bigger
Governments want to save money and consolidation is quickest way to do that
What can be done is by restricting the number of teams a club can have based on facilities, ground usage and the association can attempt to work with and help out those clubs that are struggling.Quote:
Originally Posted by sammydog
JeezeQuote:
Originally Posted by Goatscheese
I have a quick arvo knap and wake up in communist Russia
Pffft...there's nothing communist about Russia anymore, or China for that mater.Quote:
Originally Posted by big jim
seems to be on this forum thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Retro Jet
One could say the fact that Northern and member associations have regulations at all would mean we are in Communist Russia.Quote:
Originally Posted by big jim
In Soviet Russia, ball plays you.
Results from trial matches at Blacksmiths today against Cessnock...
U/17's Belswans 2 - Cessnock 2
U/19's Belswans 1 - Jaffas 2
U/23's Belswans 2 - Cessnock 4
1st's Belswans 4 - Cessnock 1
What happened to Cessnock 19's ??Quote:
Originally Posted by sancho_theswan
My tips for Round 1
Kahibah 1 to beat Cooks Hill 0
West Wallsend 2 to beat South Cardiff 0
Wallsend 5 to beat Toronto Awaba 0
Lake Macquarie City 4 to beat Belmont Swansea 0
Singleton 3 to beat Cessnock 1
My tips, no scores
Draw
Southy
Wallsend
Lakes
Draw
I'm going with:
Cooks Hill 1-3 Kahibah FC
West Wallsend 2-1 South Cardiff
Cessnock City 0-3 Singleton
Toronto-Awaba 0-4 Wallsend
Lakes 3-1 Belswans
Kahibah 2-1
Southy 3-1
Singleton 4-2
Wallsend 8-0
Lakes-Belswans 1 all
So what's the go this year with the NEW FM comp, as in why is there only 11 teams?
Surely another team could have been brought in to make it a 12-team comp?
I reckon NNSWF are waiting to see how the chips will fall at the end of the season...or whenever the changes for 2017 NPL areQuote:
Originally Posted by stopper2
to be implemented.
There may be expressions of interest from Zone clubs then to make up 2 x 12 team comps.
Week after NPL Grand Final all will be revealed. How many ZPL teams would get close to the Facility Requirements?Quote:
Originally Posted by Retro Jet
Wallsend
Lakes
Kahibah
Cooks Hill
Thornton
Southy
Singleton
West Wallsend
Belswans
Cessnock
Toronto
Jimmy James Testamonial
There will be a gathering of Breakers players and officials at the Cooks Hill v Kahibah games this Saturday 5th
in honour of Jimmy James: team manager of the Breakers and for a while the groundsman.
Please let anyone you know who was associated directly with the Breakers to come along and say g'day to Jimmy.
He'll be turning 93 later this year.
Premiership placings forecast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Newsfeed
1. Lake Macquarie City (reason: look to have more depth than last year)
2. Wallsend (reason: quality team that should finish at least as high as last seasons 3rd)
3. Singleton (reason: Improved a lot last year and think they can build further - big home advantage)
4. Kahibah (reason: strong defensively - will be hard to beat at home on the small field)
5. Cooks Hill (reason: I know Ty will disagree but will need to improve on trial form to make semis.)
6. South Cardiff (reason: been decimated after last seasons relegation - trial form has been poor)
7. Thornton (reason: handy team on their day but lack the quality of the higher teams)
8. West Wallsend (reason: Game revolves around 2 or 3 key players - injuries will hurt them as it did last year)
9. Belmont Swansea (reason: Questioning the player depth in the club with all the coaching disruptions)
10. Toronto (reason: pre season has been poor - no reason to think any improvement on last year)
11.Cessnock (reason: pre season has been poor - no reason to think any improvement on last year)
Of course - just my opinion. I am sure some of these teams will prove me wrong.
I think Southy will be further south than your predicted 6thQuote:
Originally Posted by LongSufferingFan
9. Belmont Swansea (reason: Questioning the player depth in the club with all the coaching disruptions)
Just pulled this off the Belswans web site. Doesn't appear to be too much wrong with the "player depth"??? Think that the coach leaving was probably a set back for a couple of weeks but the boys have won 3 trial games and an FFA Cup match since the guy bolted so things can't be too bad. Probably a couple of weeks under done??? Time will tell.
1st Grade Squad 2016
Mick Stafford (G/K)
Nick Popel (G/K)
Josh O’Bryan
Fletcher Price
Huey Price
Luke Cook
Jarred Noon
Joel Shearer (Club Captain)
Tim Schultz
Kyle Wilson
Josh Sutton
Josh Hall
Jamie Hadlow
Mitch Haasnoot
Mitch Maxton
Matt Carroll
Matt Ellis
Luke Lethbridge
Ben Cox
Haydon Hemson
Under 23's Squad 2016
Josh Stewart (G/K)
Mick Peachey (G/K)
Kurtis Budden
Robbie Cordwell (U/23’s Captain)
Tom Langdon
Mason Bahatko
Kurt Hodson
Ramon Dunn
James Youngberry
Will McMaster
Josh Garnsey
Blake Chapman
Apologies for the crap copy and paste haha!
Don't get me wrong, I would love to see Belswans do better than 9th. I like the club and think they add something special to NewFM. I don't know all the names on the Belswans lists but the ones I do know are rookies to first grade. Time will tell. Tough start for them with Lakes first up. If they can scrounge a result out or even a one to two goal loss then they should have a bright season.Quote:
Originally Posted by sancho_theswan
Take your point that they should settle as the season goes on.
Love NewFM football... Looking forward to the weekend.
Results from the AthField:
1st Grade: Cooks Hill 2-7 Kahibah
Under 23's: Cooks Hill 2-0 Kahibah
Under 19's: Cooks Hill 0-2 Kahibah
Under 17's: Cooks Hill 0-2 Kahibah
Absolute shocker from Cooks Hill. No excuses though...Kahibah were just too good. Defence left a bit to be desired for the Cookers but conceding seven on your home turf is pretty poor. Kahibah look quality in every grade (23's maybe not as much) and will be pushing for premierships all round IMO. The quality they've got in 19's and 17's is great for the future.
Some scores from Westy v South Cardiff as well: 17's: Westy 2-1, 19's: Westy 5-1, 23's: Southy 2-1 & 1st Grade: 2-1 Westy last I heard; kicked off at 5pm.
7 against wow... Top 4 update Kahibah
Wallsend
Lakes
Belswans
Belswans? Could very well happen but I reckon that fourth spot could go to a few teams. Belswans wouldn't be first to mind. Singleton, Thornton, even Westy. Top three looks set in stone. Kahibah could go all the way this year if they play their style and play at their best.Quote:
Originally Posted by seldom
Also, Westy finished 3-2 over South Cardiff. Come from behind win for Westy. Hearing Southy still have one or two players that have signed up yet to debut (one being 1st grader from Wallsend if reports are right).
Toronto 1 - 3 Wallsend
Cessnock 2 - 2 Singleton
Lake Macquarie 5 - Belswans 1
Results today from Macquarie Field.
U 17's Lakes 4-3.
U 19's Lakes 7-3.
U 23's Draw 0-0.
1st's Belswans 4-3.
Wrap-up from Turner Park: (Cessnock v Singleton)
17's: 0-0 Draw
19's: 7-0 Singleton
23's: 0-0 Draw
1st Grade: 1-1 Draw
Pretty entertaining First Grade game. Cessnock's goal was a magnificent bicycle kick but slightly offside in my eyes. Both teams had chances that were wasted. Fair result.
Results to today from Blackies Oval v's West Wallsend.
U/17'S... 1-2 Westy.
U/19's.... 2_1 Belswans.
U/23's.... 5 - 0 Belswans.
1st's....... 3- 1 Belswans.
Great results for the home club......1st's are undefeated, 23's yet to conceed a goal. Yep we're doing it tough down here. Lots issues?????
Go the gunners
what's the deal with all the 7-2 results?
weird
Hi all long time reader first time poster.
Was at Gunners vs Thornton game today due to long time Gunners supporter/original Southside member.
17s 4-1 (wasn't at game drinking breakfast beers)
19s 0-0 (from what I saw Southy dominated & were very unlucky, saw last 15 min)
23s/whatever they are (3-4 Thornton, good game to watch, Southy goalkeeper deserved players player from what I've seen the last few years.)
1st 1-0 Southy. I was really impressed by such a young team. From what I felt a lot of players had a desire to play for the shirt. I was really impressed by new signings Corey, Josh & number 10 (not 100% on names).
This 1st grade team will definitely turn a few heads this year & made me realise why I love the club so much.
The only downside for me was the fact an "apparent" life member turned up (& due to no circumstance of the club which was unable to sell any alcoholic beverages) left as soon as he found out this situation. If I had my way this person has no point being a life member as showing true commitment to this club.
Cheers hopefully will be able to bring you more updates from my beloved club & family friends who play in this competition but for different clubs.
MattR48