Great changes by GvE, newy legend, knows what he is doing, all the players etc etc.
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Great changes by GvE, newy legend, knows what he is doing, all the players etc etc.
Fookmi.
Glad things improved otherwise we would all be looking forward to seeing Jesic and Galloway playing next week.
Also the return of Kanta would be greeted with similar joys that await on the day Lord Griffo announces he is coming home
aahh...fookmi what happened to him used to enjoy readin his postsQuote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
he might put a foot right soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
Isn't he MFKS now?Quote:
Originally Posted by seldom
If not they have to be related.
Batshit crazy the pair of em.
nah, they're totally different dickheads
So now GVE is still in the media telling everyone how he had so much stuff to weigh up before rejecting Sydney's offer.
Isn't he under contract?
Shouldn't that be all the **** he has to weigh up?
Wow geez Gaz, thanks for putting yourself out and gracing us by extending your tenure til at least the next offer comes in.
What a guy.
How bout weighing this up, how bout coaching the team to stop leaking goals and set them up to play for 90 minutes instead of the turd sandwich you're dishing up at the moment?
How bout that??????
/ has time to think more about it.
So if he left then Deans would be back in charge?
Oh shit, thanks for stayin Gaz.
Don't get the "OMG those mean Smurfs tried to steal our coach" or the "GVE signed a contract so he has to see if out until the end date" angst to be honest. People get head hunted by other employers and people leave employers mid contract all the time in the real world. As long as the termination (by either party) is pursuant to the terms of the contract then there's nothing wrong with it - you give your notice/don't poach clients (or players in this case) etc and it's all above board.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
I agree, my point is that if you get head hunted but decide to stay, do you walk around the workplace for the next week telling everyone how hard it was but you've decided to stay for the good of mankind or some shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Disinterested Bystander
NO YOU DON'T CAUSE EVERYONE IN YOUR WORKPLACE WOULD THINK YOU'RE A TOTAL DOUCHEBAG.
While I understand that in the normal workplace this is a common occurrence, had Sydney been in talks with one of our players who was still contracted, like Biraz, all shit would have broken loose.
Why is a coach all that different?
As if the Egg didn't have a big enough head now living in the limelight of his one year wonder.
Being approached by the 'sky blues' will do nothing to control the ongoing demons that seem to continuously rage in Eggy's head; his ego and denial.
Not sure what he sees in the room of mirrors but, after reflection, it still seems to be everyone else's fault.
Remember, this is the guy who walked out during a time of need. It is also why I think players don't seem to 'get' his vision.
Other reasons, of course, could be that:
A. He doesn't appear to get it himself - other than his ability to rattle off superficial 'buzz words' and
B. They see him as a an overly opinionated lightweight.
The team is playing like an ad hoc, undercoached and confused team.
Foz 2.0 should take control.
All decisions based on polls, including live in game decisions.
Slobs to startup front with griff in January.
Problems solved.
It may be legal but it is certainly not ethical, or indeed within the best interests of the league for a club like Sydney, strongly connected with the FFA - to poach another teams coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Disinterested Bystander
The fact that GVE listened to their proposal rather than tell them he wasn not interested tells me he's still not the coach we want leading our club.
Thought this was not the case anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
Thought Lowy had sold his shares.
The cogs must be a turnin. Youth is a great asset in hal but all at the back bahaaaaaaaaaaaQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
It will always be the case regardless of whether or not Lowy owns shares.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Fish
Sydney FC are the FFA's team of choice and I don't see that changing any time soon.
It's like arguing that the Reserve Bank of Australia is independent, or that the "medical stories" we see on the news are not in fact advertising.
So where exactly was he shouting from the hilltops how he'd thought long and hard and decided to do the Jets a favour?Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Probably because the rules regarding not offering deals to contracted players don't apply to coaches maybe, it aint rocket surgery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
ahh, it's unethical, the good old refrain of the loser in a situation. Next you'll be saying it was downright unAustralian! And love the conspiracy theory touches re FFA/Sydney too :lol: As for 'how could he even consider it', who wouldn't consider a job offer, regardless of your current position? if you're trying to say you've never contemplated a change of employer or considered an offer from a competitor then you must be a saint (or a liar).Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
:roflz: Better make sure that tinfoil hat doesn't have any leaks!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
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Originally Posted by Disinterested Bystander
Not disputing your points but the goings on of this offer from Sydney to the Egg are private and not really public consumption. All the Egg has to say is he was happy with his lot in Newy and he is looking forward to the glorious Newy future he was building blah blah blah insert cliches.
Well that is how an experienced Manager with good PR Skills should do it. The Egg on the other hand
We ain't dumb enough to not realise that the offer would have been tempting for the Egg and he has to consider his career and family situation before us but FFS now the decision has been made to stick with Newy give us a vote of confidence that he is keen to be here and excited to be continuing the work. Rabbiting on about it like he is doing us some great moral deed wears thin and pisses people off
I heard plenty of audio grabs over a number of days. Sorry I cant post audio on the foz. But as the Member said he could have just said no comment but instead wanted to point out that there was 'much to weigh up' and that 'the offer was significantly better' but it 'wasnt all about money'. (sorry for paraphrasing i didn't know the internetz was now fact checked).Quote:
Originally Posted by Disinterested Bystander
As you know HSG and the print media are'nt besties but trust me its out there. Have a look fo yourself. As i said if someone made a point either at my workplace or (even worse) in the media saying how hard it was to honour a contract then id think they were an insufferable douchebag.
Fighting cancer is hard.
Going to war is hard.
Burying your child is hard.
Deciding to honour a contract you recently signed is not hard.
But im guessing that if you didnt hear it then it didnt really happen.
and as far as the ethics issue is concerned you should be careful, its not that black and white.
like it or not ethics play an important part of our business, social and sporting lives.
So i take it if ethics are nothing to worry about you will be fine with us never kicking the ball out for an injured opponent, or if we run up and score instead of giving the ball back after a drop ball etc. you're ok with this sort of stuff yeah?
If so thats awesome, you must sleep well at night being all kickass and all that.
theres winning, and theres winning by being a scumbag. i know who id rather be.
The youth will be heading out in the turnstiles if gve implodes and the team crash out of making the finals series again.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk
For me the jury is still out regarding GVEs coaching ability with "his" squad but its funny the foz is buzzing with negative comments about GVE making it public that he wants to stay with the Jets.
I would have thought that's exactly what the team and fans would want to hear.
Maybe it's just a case of "damned if you do and damned if you don't".
As for the issue of SFC approaching him in the first place, why not, this is business with a lot a stakeholders involved. People other than the coach will lose their jobs if teams aren't winning so you do what you have to do and it's a little naive to think otherwise.
If we have a problem with the ethics of big business maybe we should ask for a new owner.
Fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
although the above is true in Sydney FCs caseQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
Deans to be top dog !
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Van Egmond's plans for Jets' future
JAMES GARDINER Dec. 1, 2012, 4 a.m.
"At this moment I am in the position of being the head coach here, but down the track we have spoken already about succession plans with the likes of Craig [assistant coach Deans] coming in and myself moving into a technical director role," van Egmond said yesterday in his first interview since turning the Sydney approach down.
"Again with the Emerging Jets program coming in, I really want to be a part of that.
"Of course, there could be a massive offer come from somewhere else. You always have to look at those options.
"Right here and now, being in your home town, being able to coach your team in the A-League, getting that vision and philosophy into your A-League team and through into your youth team and developing that down into the Emerging Jets program, I think that is a really, really sought-after position from my point of view to get involved in."
Van Egmond said there was "no set time" for the transition and for the moment his focus was on leading the club to a second championship.
The Jets, in partnership with Northern NSW Football, are one of the first A-League clubs to establish a formal pathway from the under-10s through to the A-League. Trials have been held with the program set to start next year.
As technical director, van Egmond would oversee the football aspects of the club from the Emerging Jets through to the A-League.
"The most disappointing part of Newcastle is in the last half dozen years is we don't have any players in the Young Socceroos and we don't have any players in the Joeys," he said. "That doesn't make sense to me. This area is littered with talented kids and as they are getting older, from seven-, eight-, nine-, ten-year-olds, we should be able to nurture them better."
Van Egmond described the Sydney offer as "very, very lucrative" but added "money is not everything".
"We are extremely happy here and I'm extremely happy working for the Hunter Sports Group and developing this club into the best club it can be," van Egmond said.
Van Egmond cut short his first stay at the Jets in 2009 to take up a position at the Australian Institute of Sport. Then owner Con Constantine threatened to take legal action over his defection.
"Last time I left I had a four-year deal but I just didn't see any light at the end of the tunnel," he said.
Not bloody likely.
Near puked on my corn flakes when reading of that possibilty.
RBB here I come!
Sounds like a great option.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
Gallaway will start every game under Deans. Deans out
will immolate myself on the steps of the HSG superstore
feelin' da heat.
me last week:
-------X-------------------|-------------------------
GVE -------------------neutral------------------- GVE
doin' --------------------------------------------- out
alright
me this week:
-------------------X-------|-------------------------
GVE -------------------neutral------------------- GVE
doin' --------------------------------------------- out
alright
GVE looks drunk sometimes.
no, you're thinking of Farina
Who does this bloke think he is, Sir Alex Ferguson!! Succession plans??? Another couple of losses and he should be sacked. The only reason he has Deans as an assistant is because he isn't a threat to him. He wants Deans to take over from him so he can still run the show from HIS Technical Director role. No one else would put up with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
Last year he had not one but two former Premier League strikers, Jeffers and Bridges and never played them together part from a couple of cameo's when the game was lost. This year he has Bridges and Heskey but don't hold your breath waiting for these two to play together, it won't happen.
His obsession with playing 4-3-3 is killing us and Heskey. He needs another striker along side him, Bridges or give Taggart his chance. The way they play 3 up front is a croc of sh-t. Th two wide players are easily marked by the fullbacks and Heskey is always isolated. You want players running into deep wide positions from midield so you can put the opositions fullbacks in two minds. Our National team doesn't even play this crap system and now they are trying get all our kids to play it.
Also on Saturday night when both teams went down to 10 men and we were 1-0 down GVE takes off our playmaker, Ribeiro, who was doing well and brings on another defender. Didn't we want to score?
He brought all these players in at the start of the year and forgot the most important player of all, a distributor in central midfield to pull the strings. Casey where are you??
I hope we lose the next few games so we have a chance to get rid of this guy forever. He's a kiddies coach so go and coach the kids.
No no no, nowhere near any kiddies. We want them learning the good stuff from the get go not learning bad habits.
RM has a lot to answer for bringing him back, it was an opportunity for a fresh start and the vision of RM was to look backward.
YesQuote:
Originally Posted by 380
Who has been elevated above his current level
Have nnsw elite pushed any players into the aleague since its inception?
...bitter parent?
The mariners appear to have produced a few?