Push comes to shove they will be outQuote:
Originally Posted by Meggsy
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Push comes to shove they will be outQuote:
Originally Posted by Meggsy
U16s finished 2nd and U15 finished 4th. Shows we do have the girls but currently don't have enough of them to make a viable competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by onlooker
State Cup on this weekend? Early predictions?
With the results in ALW last season I doubt it..... It's not just the academy, and the girls that leave will be replaced, just like always. People think they have the power when they move on, but nothing really changes.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAPDADDY
Certainly do have the talent, both teams played some awesome football over the week, 15?s very unlucky losing both the Semi and playoff off on penalties. And 16?s whilst the score for their semi was 5-1 it was a much tougher game then that and you could see that in the final they were a bit leggy. But still a great achievement for all. Would Ike to see 16?s coach Greg Brown around and involved in the area more often even with the Jets Academy he was brilliant with the team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy
Maitland and Azzuri are sending a good enough squad to win it again. Magic apparently has their reseve and 17's as they have their annual Ball tonight and Senior girls didn't want to play in the cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy
Poor planningQuote:
Originally Posted by MCG_1997
Heard today that Mid Coast won?t have a seniors team in the comp next year and will basically be the same as the boys in a sense they have youth but nothing higher, anyone else heard this?
Will NNSW be looking to bring in another club to fill the senior spot and potentially get them over time to build their youth up, or take the easy option and just have 7 teams which makes it an 18 match season. Also this will most likely mean a separation of youth and seniors next year.
That is sad, wonder if North Coast will look to bring in girls. Would be why all the clubs without girls are circling like crows and starting JDL programs.Quote:
Originally Posted by onlooker
In what world does NNSW think the current girls space needs the addition of another 2 JDL girls clubs in 2025 and possibly another 2-3 community clubs jumping into the mix in 2026 with no agreed pathway for those clubs to move forward into PYLG/NPLWQuote:
Originally Posted by KITZ
Same with boys, all these community clubs starting JDL with no clear pathway to remain at the club. At least with girls JDL there could be a pathway into WPL clubs which will eventually help strengthen the comp
Is it the right move though to add clubs and look to grow the competition to a 10-12 team comp with only 5 grades or do we first look to fill the gaps in age groups at the current 8 clubs with the introduction of 14s and 16s to the competition over the next few years first?Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy
its no doubt female participation is on the rise and something needs to be done, but without the correct approach and more Quality coaches and coach education we will just see another lot of clubs added and a rise in the number of games with massive scorelines
I personally think the first thing that needs to happen in the youth space is a change in the age groups to 14/16/18 currently every second year you lose a huge chunk of the 13?s because they only get one year to translate their small sided football into the full size field. It?s a big ask some kids pick it up from the start some start to get it at the end of the season then are lost to clubs because it could be the year where the 15?s have most players eligible to stay. Not going to completely solve the problem as I don?t think you can until it goes up by 1 year instead of 2 but it?s a good start.
My daughter has been offered a position in ?the academy? at Lake Macquarie where we have to pay a deposit the same as the NPLW but it?s not the NPLW. Just asking if any other clubs offer this ?academy? as well? My understanding is that the academy teams this year are not even playing in A grade in the community and it?s all starting to feel like a big cash grab.
Honestly looking for some feedback or opinions, as a family we are quite new to all of this and right now feeling like we are being sold a community team at an NPLW price tag. Frustrated with this process to say the least.
I believe you are right on the money. Trying to lock girls in before any trials are held.
Better spending the money and time at one of the football schools, they are at least honest about what they are offering.
Several girls I coached in JDL have benefited from this coaching.
My advice has always been go to a team with a good coach. Nothing else is as important.
Lakes must be shaping up to be the biggest participation club in the region, so many people lately have been offered a position in this community "academy" program :blink:
almost as bad as this Australian International Football "scouts" trawling through NPLW games telling kids they've been selected for $6000 overseas trips.
I haven't been involved with the girls side of things, but this is absolutely correct, and the conclusion I drew to through the period of my boys SAP/JDL and YNPL.Quote:
Originally Posted by late_to_the_game
Also, to be careful not to mistake winning for development.
But I do have a question, why is it that the girls NPL doesn't align in age groups to the boys...is it just the difference in participation numbers and available opportunity ratios? (Does anyone know)
In the beginning for the WPL it was definitely a numbers game, but as we see numbers and interest grow its time for Northern to make some adjustments to the age structure.Quote:
Originally Posted by WOW2.0
there was a comment above from onlooker with a suggestion for the need to add in a 14s age group which is a great place to start in filling the gaps the girls currently have
With the fairly recent inclusion of JDL Girls licenses being granted to clubs, we will likely see that development and improvement dictate the need for the additional age group as the depth of competition will demand it or we will continue to lose young female footballers altogether.
We saw the initial change when WPL changed to NPLW and we went from it being 14s and 17s (or was it 14 and 16), to 13s, 15s, 17s. I think we are only a season or 2 away from an additional age group.
The challenge then becomes managing a longer game day, or moving to a senior game day where NPLM and NPLW play, with youth only days like we have with the PYLB program, and with that there will be naysayers about the disconnect of 17s with seniors, like we see with 18s boys and seniors.
It?s a great big juggling act with pros and cons everywhere you look.
That natural growth into having a 14s seems like a good place to start
Imagine it's hard to be 13 going into 15s, potentially bouncing out (because you're small, or not aggressive enough) and then trying to get back in when you're older
Absolutely I?ve been a coach at Maitland 13?s for the last 3 years ( currently have the 12?s and going back to 13?s next season) your asking kids to make the step to the full size field and in one year try to potentially displace players in 15?s who have had 2 maybe 3 years of it. And depending oh your 15?s as I said before every second year you either have a young 15?s so hardly any spots available or an older 15?s so a heap of spots. When it?s the 15?s are young do you drop a girl turning 15 for one of the 13?s coming up do you stick with the girl turning 15 or potentially force a girl into 17?s before she is 100% ready. So yeah either change 13?s to 14?s or add a 14?s in as well as 13?s as the numbers are growing. Then over time add a 16?s and 18?s.Quote:
Originally Posted by WOW2.0
If it isn't in the WPL program it is just a cash grab and wanting to sign players up in this so called Academy who will just be playing community anyway. If she wants to play WPL and is of a good quality, I'd be looking at going to all other WPL clubs first and trying out for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by I know nothing
Magic coach has quit
Apparently his last week's interview with Northern right before Olympic game has annoyed his squad and things went pear shape between him and the players
From what I've been told quite a few players were already offside with him, his comments were just the last straw.
Their were some early exits from a number of Olympic officials last night at LMRFF, looks like another party has been put on hold.
Will lead to an interesting final round though, Olympic should easily beat Warners Bay, Maitland can beat Adamstown but will be a bit shattered after the two losses to New Lambton, one of which a Maitland team official has been accusing New Lambton of cheating by delaying replays until the jets girls came in.
I have heard a few clubs saying this about New Lambton. Couldn?t do catch up games while their star jets player was on holidays. This is where Northern should be told and teams made to replay games when the hosting club has the opportunity, not give them to option to say no.
Congratulations to Maitland for winning the Premiership very close to win on goal difference. Seems New Lambton's Jets girls came too late into the season to get them into finals.
I am expecting a Maitland/Olympic grand final.
Maitland took the Premiership in res and 17?s also. It was a very good year for the older female teams at Maitland this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy
Maitland was the most consistent team this year, and deserved the Premiership.
I think they will be the favourite to win the GF too.
Magic finished for the year and I think the GF will be between Azzurri and Maitland.
Maitland and Azzurri are the best two teams in the comp. with New Lambton up there for the second half of the seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by MCG_1997
Don?t fancy Olympic?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stanley
Olympic along with Maitland are the best two teams, my guess is after today they will meet again in the GF. Only thing that could hinder Olympic is they have had horrible luck with GK?s and have an out field player in goals ( mind you she does go alright). As a Maitland fan I?m hoping it plays a part.Quote:
Originally Posted by MurderOnZidanesFloor
Just on keepers the depth in that position is really shallow, out of the 7 teams that have both senior grades I think only Charlestown have two keepers that can both be considered first grade keepers ( but neither would rank in top 4 at start of season) 5 others had great first choice keepers but if they got injured they were in trouble ( as Olympic and Magic found out).
There are some good young keepers coming through but how much work is being done with them training wise? Some clubs are really good at it some clubs are not so good, considering how key a good keeper can be in this competition I would think more cubs would be making sure to do all they can to improve their current crop.
Well done to Charlestown. They had two solid performance in the semi finals v Magic and Maitland. Their massive defensive improvement secured them GF.
Maitland shitting the bed is a surprise.
Charlestown beat them with a bloke on the field. Not much to be proud of.Quote:
Originally Posted by MCG_1997
So what's the deal with Kahibah putting out EoIs for girls teams to play in the competition next year? Is the competition expanding? I thought there was a review happening first or has this been finalised?
I've got a feeling that Mid North Coast might have pulled the pin. I could be wrong and maybe, Northern wants to increase the teams to 9 teams.
I believe Valentine are running girls JDL as well, so that would be 10?Quote:
Originally Posted by MCG_1997