Pretty quiet of late in here. Any trials lately or anything ?
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Pretty quiet of late in here. Any trials lately or anything ?
Kurri roosters have had a few trials in the last 2 weeks a mixed team played the local derby with weston swifts and had a 2-2 draw, first grade played there first game together last thursday against a pretty good largs AA team not sure of what division there in but they knocked the ball around well kurri won that game 2-0
Yesterday both grades played raymond terrace AA teams and good results for both grades ressies won 4 or 5-2 i think it finished it was there first game together and good signs there for the boys
First grade won 5-3 with onlu tje second game together the boys are starting to gel and knocking the ball around well on the down side we lost our keeper while warming up so hopefully he is back for the first game with still having another 2 or 3 players yet to play in first grade due to work our season should be a lot better for both grades then previous years bring on next week end
Good to hear you guys managed to get in a few trials roosta.
Dungog firsts only had the single game against Wallsend in state cup and ressies first hit out was yesterday. We opted to work hard at training and concentrate on that and remain fresh come rd 1.
Give us a couple weeks and we will be at our best!
Should be a strong competition this year!! All teams are doing well
Stockton had a trial against Tuncurry yesterday,
Reserves 3-0, looking good for the first hitout at Kurri saturday
Firsts 1-1, was not present for both games so not sure how they played
Toronto Awaba zl3 defeated morissett zl1 .... 3-0 this afternoon to win the inaugural MIKHAIL DE BASTOS SHIELD , well done boys ....
First grade 3-0
Reserves 0-3
Thirds 1-0 ( our u17 )
Great day organized by morissett
Hopefully every game on the weekend in this comp gets refs
good luckQuote:
Originally Posted by The roosta
Not many refs in this comp?
Yeah I no that's y I said hopefully lol id2s isn't any better for getting refs either
Depends how many referees from the Junior Branches are willing to referee senior football.There will be some from senior referees but there have to b 3 referees on all NBN,NEWFM and WPL.Then referees are allocated to Id with at least 2 referees at the ground,although the top Id games generally get 3.The rest are appointed to the other ID games.The referee policy is that a minimum of 2 referees are appointed together following incidents in previous seasons with back up from the junior branches as I said.Many referees only make themselves available on one day(yes they do have a life outside football)which stretches the already limited numbers.Any players or ex players who would like to become referees are more than welcome to apply.Quote:
Originally Posted by namwob99
I would be happy if even just one ref showed up for our game makes it so much better
How are they going for numbers this year compared to last?
Read my previous thread.Do not appoint just one referee to any games.If there is one referee left over they would be appointed to make the numbers up on another ground.Quote:
Originally Posted by The roosta
Yeah I seen what you said mate it was a figure of speech settle down
no need to settle down. i am fineQuote:
Originally Posted by The roosta
The word that Federation clubs received from the referees information night earlier this years was that they did not expect to be able to provide referees past ZL1 for all grades with ZL2 having some referees but not for all matches.Quote:
Originally Posted by The roosta
This is of course impacted by two very big factors: Where you club is situated and what day your game is on.
They rely on Associaiton referees to help fill in the numbers but that means if your game is on a Sat the association referess branches first priority is to fill as many Junior and All Age games as possible first.
And then if your clubs areas referees association is already struggling for numbers then you will find it just as hard for them to be sending their referees to ID games.
If a club doesnt already have a club referee then I would suggest having one or two at least do the on line rules of the game course as a refresher to help avoid any arguements. If you need the link message me and I'll send it on.
Its quite simple, easy to do and can be done in a few parts but really is a good reminder on some of the points easily forgotten or regulary misinterpretted.
Does it cost extra to play in these zone comps? Because I mean I can go from playing all age where you're guaranteed 3 refs every week to playing in a zone comp in which you're guaranteed to get none. I'm sure new/hun/mac try to sell them as a higher grade or whatever but where's the selling point?
And before anyone loses their shit I'm not having a shot at referees, I understand there's not enough to go around. Just wondering where the supreme overlords at New/Hun/Mac sit.
Most times it actually works out cheaper because of all the extra fees like having to pay for you own shorts and socks, and match fees that Jnr clubs charge! Also the level of play is much higher, there aren't many teams in all age that could be competitive in zl football, we played against the a grand final winners of AA a grade two years ago when in Zl2 and won by about 6or7 so it shows the lower level that the AA comp isQuote:
Originally Posted by namwob99
Yeah i see what ya mean there...What about how much they charge the team to enter the comp is it much different to all age?
I couldn't tell you what they charge in AA but I would expect it to be cheaper to register your team in it then zl as there isn't prize money for the team in AA. And the price of entry rises as you go up the levels in zl, but so does the amount of prize money you can win.Quote:
Originally Posted by namwob99
Fair enough. Cheers mate.
Toronto awaba v mayfield on Sunday April 14 ...... Haven't heard much bout mayfield , I'm sure it will be a good game and about time competition kicked off :)
In the Association competitions (juniors, womens, All Age, o35 etc) there is no actual fee for entry into a competition funds are raised via the association fees within each players registration. Items such as referees fees, uniforms etc are either covered by the clubs portion of the registration fee or charged as seperate items. Thankfully I don't beleive many clubs still make players pay ref fees week by week. And the referees supplied by each associations referees branch.
Zone League is administered as a joint venture by the three associations together. And they charge clubs an entry free depending on what division the club plays in which I beleive the entire pool is returned in full by way of payments based on season wins and finals etc. Players then pay their own registration fees which incorporate an association fee and a club fee. So the association cover their costs via their fee in the registration and clubs cover whatever costs they wish to cover in their fee.
Rego Fees are generally far higher than All Age, esp in the higher Zone leagues simply because you will find clubs provinding club shirts, training shirts, better training gear etc. And they have a smaller player base to cover items such as electricity for lighting training grounds etc.
The standards probably are higher in the lower Zone leagues than All Age but that said there are some players in All Age who could instantly walk into some reasonably high grades of Zone League also.
In Premier League the level of committment also plays a part in terms of numbers at training, pre season time etc. That does continue down but the lower the Zone League the less this occurs across all clubs. I know Zone LEague 1 teams that last seaosn were getting 6 or less first grade players to training for a majority of the season where as a Zone LEague 2 team may have been getting say 9 regulary.
I generally think the way to define it comes down to:
Federation - players who are hightly competitive and want to commit the time to their football and the social aspect is less important. Football becomes a 9-10 month sport and is the major if not only regular sport they play.
Zone Leagues - players who enjoy playing a competitive game of football but can not/wish not to have to make such a time committment and enjoy football as much as a social as a competitive past time. Might also play other season sports such as cricket or golf.
All Age/O35's - teams are generally socially based, links to each other outside of football, while some do a majority do not make a committment to training or a structured pre season.
Anyone else willing to give pick the scores a go for round 1? Bit hard to choose week 1
My opinion:
Beresfield 2 - 2 Simba
Cooks hill 1 - 2 Dungog
Kurri Kurri 1 - 5 Stockton
Toronto 3 - 1 Mayfield
I agree scores will be hard to pick
So I'll just pick who I think will win
Bero to beat Simba
Cooks hill to beat dungog
Kurri to beat Stockton
Toronto to beat mayfield
All will be close hard games for round 1 I think
Impossible to pick but here goes ..
Bero v simba draw
Dungog to beat cooks hill
Stockton to beat kurri
Toronto to beat mayfield ( hopefully )
berefield
cooks hill
stocken
toronto
Make sure that you all take whistles and flags.Only 2 referees on ZPL games and thats about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by The roosta
I'm sure everyone was prepared. Lack of numbers this year or a few unavailable?
About 90 members of which about 50 are non active,assessors,life members etc.Several either on A League,in Canberra or only available one day.We have to supply three referees to each NBN and NEWFM game which does not leave many for other games.Then a minimum of 2 per ZPL ground which means that they are also going to have to supply another official for their games.Should improve in the next few weeks when we have more available and the junior branches become available.I am not sure if any of the junior branch referees are available this weekend so it may not be as bad as i first thought.but dont get your hopes up.Quote:
Originally Posted by namwob99
I'm not whinging because I knew what I signed up for when I did, but don't you thinks its strange that because there's not enough referees to go around they just forget about these comps? Being as earlier somebody stated that they were higher level then all age? I understand the refereeing is covered by NNSW but aren't we playing in interdistrict comp?Quote:
Originally Posted by outsider
What you need to know is that the all age competition and O35 etc are run as junior football and refereed by junior branch referees who have no affiliation to NNSW referees and in most cases have no desire to referee senior football(NBNNEWFM and ID)The senior branch supply referees where possible but as I said the first call is to NBN and NEWFM football and the ID/ZPL.We are lucky to get some junior branch referees when available and put them to good use.We have quite a few referees unavailable this weekend(see previous post)but hope to have them available in the near future.It is difficult to get our members to referee 2 days(ie 6 games)as they have families and a life outside football.What we need are players who are nearing the end of their playing days to give thought to becoming referees(never too late to learn the laws of the game)who would then be able to fill vacant spaces where no one is available.Quote:
Originally Posted by namwob99
Yeah I understand ya different branches, I was just making the point that these Zone comps are run by the same mob who run the A/A and o/35's. So it seems strange that they 1) are refereed by NNSW refs and 2) don't get reffed more by local branches.
Jeez...sounds serious...who's gunna check you're wearing the right coloured tape on ya socks
Open slather on rogue coloured tape ZL1 -3 this weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by seldom
:yay:
Lucky it's not cold. You could add skins to that.....
And right there we have the main reason for all the hassles over equipment.Instead of just accepting the rules as they are,once again we have people trying to circumvent them.I know that this is probably an attempt at humour-very poor at best-but just accept the rules as laid down and everyone can just get on and enjoy their day.Referees have no option but to enforce this,even though we may not like doing so,but if you have a problem then you need to go to the ID Association to get it changed.They can then go to NFF who can go to FAA who can then ask FIFA to change it.Good luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Retro Jet
FFS.....lighten upQuote:
Originally Posted by outsider
Cooks hill v Dungog
Res - 1 - 2
Firsts- 4 - 2
Dungog res played well and deserved their win
Firsts for us had 70% possession for the first 20-30 mins and didn't really looked troubled, knocking it around very very well! but I think frustration came in when we couldnt link up with the forwards or score.
From there our game completely changed and cooks hill went in 3-1 ht and second half cooks hill had plenty of chances from Dungog pushing forward and changed our game.
If our young fellas keep their heads and play like we did for the first part of the game, we will do well.
Well done cooks hill
Any other results today? Didn't get to play/watch.
I know Stockton v kurri kurri
Res 1 - 1
1st. 2 - 0
Not sure why no other results are up, I know I'm rather disappointed with the way we handle ourselves when playing so well for the first 25 or so