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In relation to the draw etc no one from The New Lambton Eagles FC will be commenting until we can get some clarification from the relevant parties ( ie/ Newcastle football and Newcastle city council). Of course everyone has the right to speculate about it all, but it will be just that...At least it gives you blokes something to talk about in the off season hey.
it was emailed to clubs today - contact your club if you want it
Did barnsley play weston last night?
Alder Park could be interesting. HCCF have been using the ground for at least the past 2 years to play comp games on Saturdays at 1 & 3 respectively. If New Lambton had to play their games on Saturdsy, that'll cause issues.
A hell of a lot different I think, they returned to Cardiff as soon as a ground became available didn't they.........so the comparison is ???????Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
The point is they still played there,
the point is that they went there as they had no other ground and returned as soon as they were given the chance!!!!!end of story.......Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
lets not get into a stoush about who's playing where, etc as that will ultimately lead to my other favourite subject $$$$$ in lower divisions, buying comps to go nowhere, dropping divisions because $$ cant be sustained, etc, etc, etc....if that happens I will more than likely get barred again.......as someone else will bite......cheers
Wallsend travelled to Coffs to play Coffs United in a trial game.
Ressies 3-2 Coffs
Firsts 4-3 Wallsend
Sounds like it May have been good match up for a state cup game;) any match reports?Quote:
Originally Posted by lafootball
Yes Barnsley got beaten 8/1 Weston very very sharpQuote:
Originally Posted by Imyourhero
Barnsley vs cessnock
1st: 4-2 Barnsley
Res: 1-0 (I think) cessnock
3rd: 4-1 or 4-0 Cessnock
Another poor performance by a newfm team. Defiantly the zpl will be a far stronger comp, good to see.
Has anyone else heard that westy are getting the punt?
Topdog I tend to agree that the ZPL will be a more competitive league than NewFM , it always is to be honest as there tends to only be two (perhaps the odd occasion 3) teams that fight for the title in NewFM and in ZPL their is always 3,4 or 5 teams that could potentially win it.Quote:
Originally Posted by topdog
NewFM has always had a few teams in it that would not in my opinion challange for ZPL title if relegated , but please dont for a second think that ZPL does not have a few stinking teams also and that across the whole league its a better quality league . In my opinion that simply is not the case.
The simple answer is relax the criteria a little and give these ambitious ZPL teams a chance to push the bottome half of the NewFM back to a level they would be more comfortable in.
I would however love to see the restriction on ZPL teams gaining entry into NewFM lifted as it would soon sort itself out and I would expect a strong Cooks Hill , Wallsend (apologies for any other ambitious clubs I have missed) etc to make more of an impact on NewFM than some of the current clubs who add nothing to the NewFM comp.
Totally agree,Quote:
Originally Posted by NewFM 2014
I think the top 3 ZPL teams swapping with the bottom 3 New FM teams would make New FM a lot stronger competition, that's for sure!
if you saw last year they were all good. adding wallsend and dropping warnersbay. it will be an even tighter comp. I honestly believe youd promote more than 3. Valo, belswans,maitland and maybe one other would stay in newfm you'd replace the rest with ambitious zpl teams which would only build teams with even more quality if promoted!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
To be fair with trial results I think it's more then the top 3 teams. I think nnsw needs to have a look. So far cardiff cooks Barnsley getting results as well as Dudley pushing teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
Not sure that is the answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
The problem is the structure of the comp , not having a reserve grade, not enough teams etc, clubs promoted would struggle to attract players just as the clubs there are having.
Barnsley look like they have managed to keep the same squad plus add a couple of other very quality players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenz
That big new striker will cause a lot of teams trouble this season!
dont forget uni last years winners, wallsend did well to beat a state league side and there real strong too, mayfield good last year also!Quote:
Originally Posted by topdog
yeah true your right all the age restrictions crap. Only sport in australia that does age restrictions so badley. Its beyond a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by oneeye
Zpl's the highest league without all that bullshit. No wonder its punching above its weight. Maybe that should tell people something!
not too sure if he has confirmed he will with us this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftrightout
he is currently training with Edgy i think.
I rate ZPL highly but if your going to bring up teams such as Mayfield then thats when i would pull out of the conversation as thats pointless replacing like for like - It has to be a team that has real ambitions to challange NewFM and further still push for State League otherwise as mentioned its just replacing like for like.Quote:
Originally Posted by fresh
If clubs are going to move up a grade and I am all for that then at least make it clubs that have ambition and can progress and add value to NewFM on and off the park. This is not meant as a direct dig at Mayfield although may appear to be but if your going to tell me they are going to do anything different to say a Singleton or Thornton or a Cessnock then I totally disagree.
Uni , there issues are outwith there control and they never quite know if they are going to have quality until the uni students rock up .
NewFM needs shake up and ZPL deserves the chance for progression.
Hell why not just through the two comps together !!!! and have a one up one down from state league if winners meet criteria and a play off between 2nd bottom State league and 2nd top NewFM - again if this club finishing 2nd in NewFM meets criteria for State League.
It would make the State league very interesting knowing that 2nd bottom could be a dangerous place to be depending on who is sitting in 2nd in NewFM.
Not wrong safe to say all zpl sides this year won't be able to think they have an easy game on the weekendQuote:
Originally Posted by fresh
But yet in new fm, you go into majority of your games knowing you are going to punish a side!
What a joke. Northern needs to get onto this forum and have a look what people are saying. 5 sides could so easily be swapped from ZPL TO NEWFM. And be more than comfortable!!
This age restriction rubbish needs to go, no where else does it in any other comp to the extent we have!
Competitions are being destroyed, you need people with experience in teams to do well!
Look like guys like mark Wilson!!
Legend and has been such an influence at edge worth.
NEWFM seems to be just an U23's development League for those still hoping to play NBN & it is a poor one at that.
ZPL is a better league as you have players who are older & experienced who are scalling back their Football commitments due to work & family.
Age restrictions should be scrapped past U18 (if not U16) for several reasons:
- The better players will be playing 1st grade at that age anyway, & if you're not the likelyhood of you developing into an A-League player is slim.
- You learn more off older more experienced players (both playing with and against) then you do against lesser players your own age.
- With the points system it is now harder for one team to stockpile a 1st grade quality side in Reserve grade, thus the talent is spread.
Get it back to being 1st, Reserves & U18 across NBN, NEWFM, ZPL & Zone Leagues. Open up promotion and relegation across all comps (to a degree - NBN needs to remain an elite comp accross all criteria). Teams then set their own ambitions & build squads, grounds and commitment levels required to match.
There is no reason at all these competitions cannot become two up and two down! Would make those nbn sides work so much harder for it and then those teams coming down would make the grade below even stronger!! It is an absolute disgrace what northern are doing to these competitions.
You do not have a bye!! Promote a side and scrap this bullshit age restriction. The fact is that first grade side at wallsend they we have come across, I would say there average age is 22-23!! And they are a great football team with guys that have played nbn for years! These guys want to bring this club back to what it was not all that long ago.
If you are good enough why should any club be held back!
Back to getting smashed 10-0 each week in newfm?! :fright:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eleganceisirrelevant
Before you get smart about it? May I ask who you play for, and if you have seen wallsend play at all in the last year or so?
They have had quality results against a first division side from the central coast, also beat South Cardiff and coffs united! Please explain??!
Also the club was on the verge of folding at that time and I would say there would be 2 players from that team then that still play!
Keep your opinion to yourself because you clearly have no idea about where this club has come from or is now
If you had done your homework you would know that under instructions from FFA is why the age categories are in place, this then allows NNSWF to compete in NPL, NNSWF were also instrumental in having some age restrictions lifted as the criteria set down by FFA were deemed not positive for our region, NPL and newfm clubs supported and voted for current system allowed by the FFA which will eventually see the reserve grade become u20s, your rant towards NNSWF shows your knowledge on this subject to be very little, your opinion is appreciated but learn the facts firstQuote:
Originally Posted by Eleganceisirrelevant
I am far from the only person that agrees on this matter???
So there is no way it could be first, Reserves and under 19's ever again??
That's crap! It's not about knowing the facts or doing homework.
It's an opinion of what would make the quality of football in newcastle greater again!
Goodluck to Wallsend in this years ZPL. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Eleganceisirrelevant
You need to take your argument up with the FFAQuote:
Originally Posted by Eleganceisirrelevant
What does it matter which club he plays for?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eleganceisirrelevant
Have Wallsend got a young third grade where they could field a youth side if promoted (under 19's)?
Have Wallsend been working towards getting a 22's side together instead of a reserve grade if promoted?
If so, thats great forward thinking - which is what any club with thoughts of progressing progressing through the competitions should do.
Beating clubs like South Cardiff and Coffs is great for you. COngratulations - but its February and no-one really cares for results.
Its funny how much you hear this when a team from a "lower division" beats a team from a "high division".Quote:
Originally Posted by The General
Its pre season, not at full strength, experimenting etc....
The funny thing is, for all these ZPL team who have been towelling up the NEWFM teams, it is also only february and they probably havent been training as long as NEWFM teams!
So what.. a team from a lower division beats a team from a higher division....WOW That is the first time I have heard of that happening. A few years ago a team from the 3rd level in England knocked Man Utd out o fthe FA Cup (or was it the league cup) what are suggesting that, that team should be in the premier league. FFSQuote:
Originally Posted by leftrightout
Last year before the season started Rosebuds (who were in NEWFM at the time) beat Magic in a trial game. All of you have tipped Rosebuds to come last in NBN... on that logic Rosebud should go close to winning NBN.
Im not saying any of the ZPL teams would win NEWFM im just saying that they are proving they are stronger than a few of the NEWFM teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by De-Champ
- Cooks Hill smashed Westy (we now know westy have some problems)
- Cardiff put 6 past singo and beat valo 3-2
- Mayfield put 5 or something past thornton
- Barnsley have put 4 past both thornton and cessnock
- Dudley pushed belswans in a 2-1 loss (still use this example as belswans are one of the better teams in NEWFM)
And i may be leaving some out... feel free to add to the list!
These arent a fluke 1-0 result in a cup game. This preseason ZPL teams have been really hurting the lower NEWFM teams and the few against the better teams have been competitive.
There is a big difference in winning in trial games (which no body gives a ...) and playing week in week out in the comp. Just look at the Jets, undefeated or pretty close to being undefeated in trial games against A League sides, but look at them once the comp starts. Probably could not beat your ZPL side.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftrightout
Theres also a big difference in losing a trial 2-1 or 1-0 and losing and conceding 4 5 or 6.Quote:
Originally Posted by De-Champ
This would surely be fairly worrying for the manager, seeing their team lose by such big margins to lower league teams, regardless of if its a trial or not. As i said, it is also a trial for the ZPL teams!
Again, im not saying these ZPL teams would win NEWFM but i really believe they would be competitive, more often than some of the teams already there.
a more outrageous concept, we have a preseason round which decides who goes into newfm and ZPL. each zpl team is drawn against a newfm team played home and away. not sure what happens to ressies etc. boat races after the game:whistling:Quote:
Originally Posted by leftrightout
Hahaha i do like that ressies concept, it would be a tough battle!Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk