2015 Zone Premier League thread

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Originally Posted by leftrightout

Are any of the guys here New Lambton players or are they committee members (or both?)
Just curios to see what the opinion of a NL player is about the forfeit. Are they happy to not play the game and get 3 points even though they are long shots at semis. Or would you rather play the game? Because looking at the table and who has to play who on the run home, it just looks like this spare one is going to be a wasted weekend of no football for no reason and not even any huge gain to anyone?
Just curios to know personal preference

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I am a player for New Lambton. I agree with all action taken because you shouldn't be able to just call off a game whenever it suits you. As Jordo has stated, the ground was dry, not 50/50 on whether it should have been called off. The photos taken prove this.

To respond to Jardel, in the 8 years I have been at the club, we have never called off a game due to having players unavailable. I can't comment on the time before this, but the competition has changed (and improved) a lot over this time and all clubs should now be held to a higher level of scrutiny to keep this progression happening. To be honest from what I've heard, I don't think the club had any idea of what would happen after making the official complaint, but they just knew that the game being postponed was entirely wrong.

Regardless of what you think of the punishment, l don't want Barnsley to play the victim here. The only precedent that has been set is that if you do the wrong thing, then you will be punished. Fair enough too.

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Originally Posted by leftrightout

Fair that you don't want to respond on here... i wouldn't expect anything formal from a club man like yourself on here, this is certainly not the place to make statements from the club.
I was more just interested in a players feelings towards it since they are the ones who miss playing the game. Obviously Donk is a barnsley player or supporter who is unhappy to miss a game, i was wondering how your players were feeling.
So really, you didn't answer my question because my question wasn't really directed to you.

Also, I had no intention of having a go at anyone with my post i was just interested as i cant really recall this happening in a zone league before?

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Player and I'm disappointed for the fact, in an under performing club our reserve grade squad after getting chopped and change every week to try sort out first grade have started to get consistent players towards end of year and producing results to get that game completely taken from you like that is disheartening for them..

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Originally Posted by howardyou

I am a player for New Lambton. I agree with all action taken because you shouldn't be able to just call off a game whenever it suits you. As Jordo has stated, the ground was dry, not 50/50 on whether it should have been called off. The photos taken prove this.

To respond to Jardel, in the 8 years I have been at the club, we have never called off a game due to having players unavailable. I can't comment on the time before this, but the competition has changed (and improved) a lot over this time and all clubs should now be held to a higher level of scrutiny to keep this progression happening. To be honest from what I've heard, I don't think the club had any idea of what would happen after making the official complaint, but they just knew that the game being postponed was entirely wrong.

Regardless of what you think of the punishment, l don't want Barnsley to play the victim here. The only precedent that has been set is that if you do the wrong thing, then you will be punished. Fair enough too.

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Please tell us how it would benefit us. We are last by a mile in first and at that stage already couldn't change the last place finish..

Reserve our only shot if we were short players wouldn't we just stack it to get the result we needed not postpone?? Cos the other grade results wouldn't have matter..

So please tell me how it would have?

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Originally Posted by howardyou

I am a player for New Lambton. I agree with all action taken because you shouldn't be able to just call off a game whenever it suits you. As Jordo has stated, the ground was dry, not 50/50 on whether it should have been called off. The photos taken prove this.

To respond to Jardel, in the 8 years I have been at the club, we have never called off a game due to having players unavailable. I can't comment on the time before this, but the competition has changed (and improved) a lot over this time and all clubs should now be held to a higher level of scrutiny to keep this progression happening. To be honest from what I've heard, I don't think the club had any idea of what would happen after making the official complaint, but they just knew that the game being postponed was entirely wrong.

Regardless of what you think of the punishment, l don't want Barnsley to play the victim here. The only precedent that has been set is that if you do the wrong thing, then you will be punished. Fair enough too.

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In the event of a wash out like this, you can guarantee that the other club will front to check it out. If suss, why cant someone from the joint zones adjudicate?
Yes they might need to set the alarm but why not? What about the referees association being the ones who call out anything that isnt deemed unplayable 24 hrs prior?? As for ZPL improving, I am afraid that it is a shade on the comp from the late 90s and early 2000s. Even earlier. Some of Reserve Grade sides in those days would skin some current 1sts.

It's not the first time something like this has happened at Barnsley.
About 3 years ago 2 of my younger cousin were in an odd predicament, both of them were playing at Barnsley but in different age groups.
What was odd about that day was 1 cousin game was called of whilst the other game was still on at the same venue. Turns out Barnsley closed just the one field which from what I was told was quite playable. That said field was also the same field that the ZL side plays on and for a funny coincidence someone from the ZL side got Married that weekend.

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Originally Posted by Premy

It's not the first time something like this has happened at Barnsley.
About 3 years ago 2 of my younger cousin were in an odd predicament, both of them were playing at Barnsley but in different age groups.
What was odd about that day was 1 cousin game was called of whilst the other game was still on at the same venue. Turns out Barnsley closed just the one field which from what I was told was quite playable. That said field was also the same field that the ZL side plays on and for a funny coincidence someone from the ZL side got Married that weekend.

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That's funny since juniors haven't played on our field till this yr

Mate, I couldn't comment as to why the action was taken in this instance and not in previous times when a complaint has been made. I know Mayfield mentioned on here they had previously taken the exact same action as us and there was a different outcome.i dont know if there has been a rule change since that occurred, but it is definitely a valid question for Newcastle Football. You've mentioned you feel we hold some sway with newcastle Football, but I can categorically state that we don't, we've had plenty of barneys with them over the years and don't see we have ever received treatment that was different to any other club. You are of course entitled to your view and I wouldn't expect my perspective to change yours, but I can only tell you what I know.

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Originally Posted by leftrightout

Fair that you don't want to respond on here... i wouldn't expect anything formal from a club man like yourself on here, this is certainly not the place to make statements from the club.
I was more just interested in a players feelings towards it since they are the ones who miss playing the game. Obviously Donk is a barnsley player or supporter who is unhappy to miss a game, i was wondering how your players were feeling.
So really, you didn't answer my question because my question wasn't really directed to you.

Also, I had no intention of having a go at anyone with my post i was just interested as i cant really recall this happening in a zone league before?

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Fair call mate. That certainly wasn't an official club statement either, just my personal viewpoint.

I would love to see the photos of the pitch....its very unfortunate that a Barnsley player was injured at training, no one wants that, and everyone needs to go to work on the Monday...However take a look at the condition of the vast majority of the pitches being played on currently, IMO they are just as likely to cause an injury, even after weeks of lovely sunshine.

And I back up comments made by both NL Eagles representatives.... the suggestion that New Lambton have any sway with Newcastle Football is absurd..... Just look at the outcome of the Adamstown Oval fiasco.... and if someone tries to say that NF didnt have any decisions in that then you need an uppercut.

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Originally Posted by Phoenix12

I would love to see the photos of the pitch....its very unfortunate that a Barnsley player was injured at training, no one wants that, and everyone needs to go to work on the Monday...However take a look at the condition of the vast majority of the pitches being played on currently, IMO they are just as likely to cause an injury, even after weeks of lovely sunshine.

And I back up comments made by both NL Eagles representatives.... the suggestion that New Lambton have any sway with Newcastle Football is absurd..... Just look at the outcome of the Adamstown Oval fiasco.... and if someone tries to say that NF didnt have any decisions in that then you need an uppercut.

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Adamstown Oval fiasco was all NCC, they have a clause that a sports team participating in the premier competition for their sport can have exclusive and overruling rights over the venue if that venue was the 'home' ground and therefore can move on any lower graded teams sharing that field if they get promoted or do not wish to share. It was always going to happen when Adamstown were promoted and anyone thinking otherwise needs an uppercut. NF were out of their jurisdiction... Anyways... NCC plucked a few hundred thousand from somewhere when they 'dont have any money for projects" and renovated Alder Park.

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Originally Posted by Phoenix12

I would love to see the photos of the pitch....its very unfortunate that a Barnsley player was injured at training, no one wants that, and everyone needs to go to work on the Monday...However take a look at the condition of the vast majority of the pitches being played on currently, IMO they are just as likely to cause an injury, even after weeks of lovely sunshine.

And I back up comments made by both NL Eagles representatives.... the suggestion that New Lambton have any sway with Newcastle Football is absurd..... Just look at the outcome of the Adamstown Oval fiasco.... and if someone tries to say that NF didnt have any decisions in that then you need an uppercut.

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Our ground especially could be called off in sunny weather it's dreadful.

Pretty sure getting the head out to inspect our group would mean there is something there. I'm sure as hell he wouldn't come out if I rang him, he'd be asking where I got his number from.

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Originally Posted by howardyou

As Jordo has stated, the ground was dry, not 50/50 on whether it should have been called off. The photos taken prove this.

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Having to be 50/50 big call if there is one part of the ground you feel is unplayable that should be enough specially for safety of the players.

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Originally Posted by Donk

Our ground especially could be called off in sunny weather it's dreadful.

Pretty sure getting the head out to inspect our group would mean there is something there. I'm sure as hell he wouldn't come out if I rang him, he'd be asking where I got his number from.

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Again I don't expect to change your viewpoint, but all clubs have the contact numbers of Newcastle football staff.

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Originally Posted by The Magician

Adamstown Oval fiasco was all NCC, they have a clause that a sports team participating in the premier competition for their sport can have exclusive and overruling rights over the venue if that venue was the 'home' ground and therefore can move on any lower graded teams sharing that field if they get promoted or do not wish to share. It was always going to happen when Adamstown were promoted and anyone thinking otherwise needs an uppercut. NF were out of their jurisdiction... Anyways... NCC plucked a few hundred thousand from somewhere when they 'dont have any money for projects" and renovated Alder Park.

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Is that a suggestion that we have 'mates' at NCC too? We weren't actually aware that any upgrades were happening at Alder Park, my understanding was that the lobbying came from the athletics club that also use the field. If we had any sway with the council we would have at least requested a facility with more than 1 public toilet.

You are 100% correct on the Adamstown oval situation though, once rosebuds got promoted to the NPL it was likely we would get moved on. Our point of contention was that we attempted to clarify the situation with NCC for a number of months ( to see where we would be moved to) and were only told a couple of weeks out from the start of the season. All in the past though, we are working towards improving alder park ( we all know it is currently shithouse) with our own fundraising ( nothing from NCC ).

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Originally Posted by idontwannaplaywithhowey

Is that a suggestion that we have 'mates' at NCC too? We weren't actually aware that any upgrades were happening at Alder Park, my understanding was that the lobbying came from the athletics club that also use the field. If we had any sway with the council we would have at least requested a facility with more than 1 public toilet.

You are 100% correct on the Adamstown oval situation though, once rosebuds got promoted to the NPL it was likely we would get moved on. Our point of contention was that we attempted to clarify the situation with NCC for a number of months ( to see where we would be moved to) and were only told a couple of weeks out from the start of the season. All in the past though, we are working towards improving alder park ( we all know it is currently shithouse) with our own fundraising ( nothing from NCC ).

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While you are at it with your connections, can you have a word to Mr Abbott about marriage equality please?



But seriously, obviously barnsley feel hard done by and new lambton feel the opposite. I think bagging either club shouldn't happen, its a difference of opinion that's all done now anyway. I know people in both clubs and they are all great blokes, i cant imagine either club trying to cheat the system, its just an unfortunate circumstance.
Lets face it, its ZPL everyone just wants to play football.
In the end, my personal opinion is that the ruling is a bit harsh on barnsley but i think its time to move on now.

Go the Suns :popcorn:

Gentlemen, how are the leading goal scorers tallying up for each club?
Always quite fascinated to see who acquires the theoretical ZPL Golden Boot for this season

Beresfield First Grade far surpasses any other team on 65 goals this season.

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Originally Posted by Sir

Gentlemen, how are the leading goal scorers tallying up for each club?
Always quite fascinated to see who acquires the theoretical ZPL Golden Boot for this season

Beresfield First Grade far surpasses any other team on 65 goals this season.

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I know Samwise for Gardo is on 23.. I think second top scorer for us in 1sts is on 3.. :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Bon

I know Samwise for Gardo is on 23.. I think second top scorer for us in 1sts is on 3.. :thumbsup:

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I think top scorer for our club is on like 5 or 6 ha ha ha

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Originally Posted by Bon

I know Samwise for Gardo is on 23.. I think second top scorer for us in 1sts is on 3.. :thumbsup:

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23...thats a great bag ! Fair dinkum I am happy with 1 or 2 a season !