GVE Gooooooooone

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Originally Posted by Gary Fish

Just won the NPL.
When GvE leaves, as he one day will, I'd much rather us for someone like rudan than some unknown OS bloke.
Aloisi went from paying to the top gig too quickly.
Rudan is doing his apprentice work atthe moment, he'd be a good option IMO.

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He may have just won the NPL, but lets be realistic here, Sydney United always were going to. It's not as though Rudan had coached Adamstown and won it. I'm quite happy to predict now that for the next 10 years, 75+% of the winners of the NPL will be either coming from NSW, or Victoria if they get their shit together.

Why not Papas, who is doing is coaching the u/23s national team in India? Wasn't he meant to be the next big coach? Or maybe one of our former players, bar Deans, rather than a former Sydney captain?

Agree about Aloisi. And if we're looking at NSWPL managers, George Mandic had a good season with Bonnyrigg, or how about Jean-Paul de Marigny? Yes, United came 1st this season in the NSWPL, but I would much rather see how Rudan goes over a few more seasons before he gets mentioned. Lavicka won the GF in his first season, and fared poorly the next few.

Haven't SFC fans had Rudan marked as their next coach after Farina?

I pretty much agree with everything thomas has said so far. If we're looking at an untried coach, we should be looking at bringing back Papas first and foremost. Second to that is Ante Milicic, only a matter of time before he's given a shot at coaching.


MFKS is right though, it's always going to be Deans.

Should target ante milicic I reckon. Done a good apprenticeship under poppa and previously vant schip

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Originally Posted by Tommyjet

Should target ante milicic I reckon. Done a good apprenticeship under poppa and previously vant schip

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Agree. Scored first a-league goal for us too if IRC

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Originally Posted by Jeterpool

Agree. Scored first a-league goal for us too if IRC

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No. That's was griffo. ;)

Would be good to have someone like Rado in the mix somewhere.
Regarding some of the unknowns, it is like being in opposition in politics- you can have a thousand views on what's wrong etc and what you intend to do, but the real skill is getting things right.
surely no gambles at this stage and go for an experienced type.

In my opinion radio is the perfect assistant for any manager and always will be. Just think some aren't meant to be the top dog

It's not about the manager alone it's about the players and staff they can bring to the club. That is why I would only replace GVE with someone already established with their own mix of players and staff ready to follow them.
There will always be exceptions like Poppa but overall I wouldn't take the risk on anyone without success before in a similar role.

Like him or not GVE did have two very successful seasons at the Jets which is a lot more than some of the names people are throwing about as being his replacement.

Don't get me wrong, I'll be glad to see him go if we don't make the finals this season but I don't want to go through all that rebuilding for the future shit again.

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Originally Posted by Thomas477

Why not Papas, who is doing is coaching the u/23s national team in India? Wasn't he meant to be the next big coach?

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U23 side as well as being involved in some kind of national youth development. And the boss at Dempo SC as well, the biggest of the clubs (or at least the most successful) in India.

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Originally Posted by The Dunster

It's not about the manager alone it's about the players and staff they can bring to the club. That is why I would only replace GVE with someone already established with their own mix of players and staff ready to follow them.
There will always be exceptions like Poppa but overall I wouldn't take the risk on anyone without success before in a similar role.

Like him or not GVE did have two very successful seasons at the Jets which is a lot more than some of the names people are throwing about as being his replacement.

Don't get me wrong, I'll be glad to see him go if we don't make the finals this season but I don't want to go through all that rebuilding for the future shit again.

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I reckon Papas would be ideal to slide into the role without much in the way of rebuilding required. Huge focus on youth, already has experience in the Aus youth set up as well so probably had some of your youngsters when he was assistant to the U17's a few years back.

No idea if he is any good, mind you... but in terms of transition, would be less messy than if we brought in someone else.

Frans Straka.

Can add biege sports coats to the merchandise range, sales of these would just about cover his wages.

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Originally Posted by Grimario

Huge focus on youth, already has experience in the Aus youth set up as well so probably had some of your youngsters when he was assistant to the U17's a few years back.

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Not saying Pappas wont work but...
Ive had about enough of this focus on Youth sh1t for our 1st team. Lets leave that for say, the youth team.
gws, who we aspire to, used a load of experienced cast offs, cept sinjy, and did ok.
Transitions are only messy if we lose.

ps Grim, hope you found the correct disc golf webpage :)

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Originally Posted by hawk

Ive had about enough of this focus on Youth sh1t for our 1st team. Lets leave that for say, the youth team.

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Only mentioned it in relation to The Dunster's concerns about another "rebuild". Already "initiated" in the ways of youth, a bunch of them most likely have experience with him from U17 (or even Goodwin at club level) so less upheaval compared to someone else coming in.

And for financial stability, I think developing youth is a great move. If we can keep Birraz and extend his contract, it won't be long before he is off to Europe with a fat wad of cash in the Jerks kitty. Same goes for Goodwin, Chapman, Hoole, Beard, Taggart etc etc... until we are packing out the stadium week in week out and we have 4 networks battling over TV rights, it's hands down the best way for the club to make coin. Just need someone in charge who doesn't destroy players like it almost appears has happened with Goodwin :(

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Originally Posted by Grimario

If we can keep Birraz and extend his contract, it won't be long before he is off to Europe with a fat wad of cash in the Jerks kitty. Same goes for Goodwin, Chapman, Hoole, Beard, Taggart etc etc...(

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Bhahahahahaha.
It's like you wrote that post whilst forgetting that Middleby will be in charge of those transfers.

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Originally Posted by plague

Bhahahahahaha.
It's like you wrote that post whilst forgetting that Middleby will be in charge of those transfers.

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Shiiiiiiit, got real life confused with Football Manager again where we made over 1m for two of that lot :(

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Originally Posted by Thomas477

He may have just won the NPL, but lets be realistic here, Sydney United always were going to. It's not as though Rudan had coached Adamstown and won it. I'm quite happy to predict now that for the next 10 years, 75+% of the winners of the NPL will be either coming from NSW, or Victoria if they get their shit together.

Why not Papas, who is doing is coaching the u/23s national team in India? Wasn't he meant to be the next big coach? Or maybe one of our former players, bar Deans, rather than a former Sydney captain?

Agree about Aloisi. And if we're looking at NSWPL managers, George Mandic had a good season with Bonnyrigg, or how about Jean-Paul de Marigny? Yes, United came 1st this season in the NSWPL, but I would much rather see how Rudan goes over a few more seasons before he gets mentioned. Lavicka won the GF in his first season, and fared poorly the next few.

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Don't know how you could say Sydney Utd were always going to win the NPL. Did not they beat a Tasmanian team in the final. Yes tasmania. i did not know they played football down there.

Please correct me if I am wrong but wasn't there a HAL coach that said "If you listen to the fans then you will be sitting with the fans". After two years of the forumites berating GVE and telling him to play to suit his players we are finally winning games and looking dangerous. Forget these so called managers run the team tyhrough the forum.

Viva La Forumites

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Originally Posted by Local Rules

Please correct me if I am wrong but wasn't there a HAL coach that said "If you listen to the fans then you will be sitting with the fans". After two years of the forumites berating GVE and telling him to play to suit his players we are finally winning games and looking dangerous. Forget these so called managers run the team tyhrough the forum.

Viva La Forumites

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I take your point, and I know you're not being literal (at least, I hope you're not), but if anybody was to listen to the cacophony from the stands/forum we would have a multitude of problems;

Neville would have never set foot on the field again after last season, now he is one of our most consistent players,
Bridges wouldn't know whether he is Arthur or Martha, such is the divided opinion amongst our supporter base,
Burns would have been sent back to South Korea before the ball had hit the ground off the crossbar.

Feel free to add to this truncated list

Bump.
45% possession today. Where has sexy fuutball gone?
GVE OUT.

We all know palmer is the brains in this outfit.

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Originally Posted by belchardo

We all know palmer is the brains in this outfit.

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Does anyone know if Palmer has his badges?

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Originally Posted by plague

Does anyone know if Palmer has his badges?

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No obviously why GVE is the front man to give it the allure that someone is in charge who is accredited.



No way would anyone believe it if Deans was the front man and we were achieving these results under his reign

34 interceptions to 12 over the course of the game. mon newy.

this is modern football, and this is where games are wun etc

this is the thing with GVE i will never understand - how do you preach tiki taka when you have the best blokes in the league for sheer athletic ability and tackling prowess bar one or two ffs, i.e. zads, brillante and kanta? what is this blokes go smh, however today it worked.

war GVE

war

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Originally Posted by q-money

this is the thing with GVE i will never understand - how do you preach tiki taka when you have the best blokes in the league for sheer athletic ability and tackling prowess bar one or two ffs, i.e. zads, brillante and kanta?

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You forgot Reegz. Bloke was a dead set one man wall with a silly haircut.

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Originally Posted by plague

You forgot Reegz. Bloke was a dead set one man wall with a silly haircut.

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That hair cut, ffs. Horrendous.

And you forgot Gallaway too. He's like a less talented left sided Franjic, just never stops and even when he is bad, he is still not horrendous.

Those guys playing tika taka, what was the egg thinking? GVE OUT.

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Originally Posted by plague

You forgot Reegz. Bloke was a dead set one man wall with a silly haircut.

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Where as Nathan Coe was just one man with a silly haircut. What was the go with his "frullet" yesterday!? Abysmal.

Bump...in case anyone was looking for it.

Kanta needed a rest!? Spare me. Must be tough playing one game a week.

Tell us he's not being retained now.

Also saw the special guests of a certain Mr Middleby was Geoff McCloy and Wayne Bennet. Could Wayne be a cost saving exercise and HSG are going to make his coach all year round??

We need to be told so we have something to look forward to next year.

I think it has really become obvious that GVE was forced to ditch the possession game earlier in the season.

Despite the results we started to get, he doesn't believe in what we were doing to win. Now he has inched us back to his possession game style and we are getting the results to go with it.

It was depressing walking out of the stadium after tonights game.

Resting Kanta was a master stroke, we were soooo much better with out him. And he sure looked tired when he came on.

Rested! I assumed he was injured. Bloody hell. Caravella was certainly up to the task as a fill in.

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Originally Posted by sammydog

I think it has really become obvious that GVE was forced to ditch the possession game earlier in the season.

Despite the results we started to get, he doesn't believe in what we were doing to win. Now he has inched us back to his possession game style and we are getting the results to go with it.

It was depressing walking out of the stadium after tonights game.

Resting Kanta was a master stroke, we were soooo much better with out him. And he sure looked tired when he came on.

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Couldn't agree more

McCloy the asshole was the cause of this sh*t display.

i know a good real estate agent gve

GVE doesn't pick the team Troy Palmer does. Blame Palmer

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Originally Posted by sammydog

I think it has really become obvious that GVE was forced to ditch the possession game earlier in the season.

Despite the results we started to get, he doesn't believe in what we were doing to win. Now he has inched us back to his possession game style and we are getting the results to go with it.

It was depressing walking out of the stadium after tonights game.

Resting Kanta was a master stroke, we were soooo much better with out him. And he sure looked tired when he came on.

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agreed. We played well but didn't take chances

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Originally Posted by Jeterpool

Bump...in case anyone was looking for it.

Kanta needed a rest!? Spare me. Must be tough playing one game a week.

Tell us he's not being retained now.

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Thank got he didn't go to Bayerns he might have had to play every 3 days at times + extra time if sometimes needed in cups game. Surely they would not ask him to take a penalty, he would be exhausted at 22 years of age for god sake.... surely !!!

So good we got 0 points

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Originally Posted by terry

So good we got 0 points

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Back to what we're used to

Not starting Kanta - one of our best in the past month
Taking Goodwin off early in 2nd half - our most effective attacking player during the 60min he was on
and finally the worst....going back to tikka takka between Birraz and the back four which ultimately cost us the goal
It seems whenever this team is showing signs of turning the corner GVE reminds us that with him at the helm this club will not get anywhere in this competition

Deadest, for the last 25 minutes most common pass was birraz to heskey.


GVE needs to drink scotch at half time because RBT means you need a plan B

yeah GVE couldnt see Goodwin was good. Heskey looked the goods when he came on ...with little support