Danny Allsopp has retired...
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Danny Allsopp has retired...
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wonder if they'll go back for hernandez now.
No foreign spots left.
Also don't think Ange was in favour of his KFC eating no running with out the ball ways
**** he can shoot though !Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Whether Ange wants him now or notQuote:
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I think this wins out!Quote:
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word is harry kewell is heading back. not a bad replacement imo.
and by word, i mean people are reading into sheree murphy's twitter hints.
Surprised the club has not banned News limited as well after the Knights pay rumour/leak/whatever the other day.Quote:
A-League: Admission of hatred fires up derby clash between the Newcastle Jets and Central Coast Mariners
Barry Toohey
The Daily Telegraph
October 19, 2012 12:00AM
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Jobe Wheelhouse is confident the Jets have the attacking power to beat the Mariners: Getty Image Source: The Daily Telegraph
Jets must learn to fly with Heskey
NEWCASTLE Jets captain Jobe Wheelhouse has foreshadowed another potentially explosive F3 derby showdown against Central Coast tomorrow by admitting a certain amount of hatred exists between the two clubs.
Just like he is on the field, Wheelhouse was honest yesterday about one of the A-League's great rivalries.
"I think there is a little bit of hatred there for sure," Wheelhouse said.
"I definitely know both sets of supporters don't like each other. Most of the games are pretty fiery.
"It's the F3 derby, that sort of feeling among the players and fans always brings out the best in both teams.
"We have plenty of players in our team that like to give it out and so do they so I'd say there'll be a bit in it."
While he said hatred was a "very strong word", Jets coach Gary van Egmond didn't shy away from the intense rivalry that exists between the two sides.
It dates back to the first time the clubs squared off against each other in early 2005 prior to the A-League first kicking off, when Jets defender Andrew Durante had his leg broken after an ugly challenge by Mariners striker Nik Mrdja.
There has been no love lost between the sides ever since.
"It's a derby and the first game (this season) is at our stadium," van Egmond said.
"We have to make our home ground a fortress and we've already lost once. We don't want a repeat of that."
The Jets, who won the A-League title back in 2007-08 after a controversial 1-0 grand final win over the Mariners, won't finalise their squad for the Hunter Stadium game until after a final training session this afternoon.
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Newcastle Jets goal keeper Ben Kennedy looks set to miss the derby. Picture: Liam Driver Source: The Daily Telegraph
Goalkeeper Ben Kennedy seems certain to miss the clash because of a knee injury that may require surgery while defender Scott Neville hasn't trained all week because of a groin problem.
Midfield attacking strike weapon Ruben Zadkovich is also an injury concern after failing to finish yesterday's session but is expected to be cleared to play.
Mark Birighitti, sent off in his side's opening-round loss to Adelaide, will be Kennedy's replacement in goal.
The Mariners are yet to concede a goal in a 0-0 draw against Western Sydney and a 1-0 win over Perth but Wheelhouse says the Jets have the strikepower to change that.
"We scored three really good goals last week (against Sydney FC) and could have had five or six more," he said.
"Our front third has copped a bit of criticism but I think we have found our touch in that area.
"I don't think it matters what defence we play against. If we are on our game, we'll score some goals."
Poor Bridges always getting slammed for his dress sense :lol:Quote:
Free Kicks | Dominik Ritter
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The Jets defender on M&Ms, hot cheese and Michael Bridges's bad pants.
Hi Dominik! How's life treating the Ritter today?
Good thanks. I just had training in the morning, went with the boys to have some lunch. I’m enjoying life in Newcastle, it’s beautiful.
Have you been surfing?
I haven’t been yet, I’m not sure if i’m going to try. I walk to the beach and a lot of people are always surfing but I don’t know if I’ll try it it.
Are you a beach person?
I like the pool more than swimming in the sea but I like getting a tan at the beach.
OK, down to the important stuff. What's your favourite biscuit?
Erm... do M&M’s count?
They'll do. Can you cook?
I like to cook meat. Maybe some pasta or veggies but mostly meat.
Any Swiss specialities?
I don’t cook Swiss food because a lot of it is with hot cheese and usually eaten in winter when it’s cold, so it’s not suitable for here.
Nothing like a hot summer fondue! Who’s greater - King Kong or Godzilla?
King Kong. A big monkey’s better than a big lizard.
Sound logic. What's your favourite TV show?
Entourage. I don’t know if it’s still going I just watch it on the internet - it’s a good series. Australian TV is pretty good otherwise.
If you were to set up a band for the Newcastle Jets, who’d be in it?
Browny (James Brown) would be in it for sure. He looks like a rock star. I don’t know who’s a good singer though.
Talking of singing, did you have to sing for your initiation into the club?
Oh yes, of course, I sang a German song at a training camp in Canberra. I sang it in German so no one could understand. It’s called Ich habe genug (“I have enough” - we think...). It’s just a love song. I don’t like it much but I knew it and it’s easy to sing in German.
We'll listen out for it. Who has got the worst dress sense at the Jets?
Maybe Bridgey (Michael Bridges). Sometimes he wears really strange clothes. He’s sponsored by Pele (sports brand), so mostly all Pele clothes. When I first came here and the weather was really cold he had some really strange pants and jacket on. That was funny.
We'll have to wait til we see these funny pants for ourselves. What three people – dead or alive – would you invite round for dinner?
Maybe Michael Jackson... He’s a legend! And some girls, for sure. The other two would be pretty girls – and Michael Jackson.
That's an odd selection but, hey, it's your party. What’s the first thing you’d do if you won the lotto?
I would save money and spend some of it. I’d buy a house, a good car. If it’s enough I would save and spend some.
Very sensible. Does anyone have a nickname at the club?
I do – Ruben calls me “The Destroyer” and also “Solid”. I don’t know why he called me The Destoyer, it was when I first came here. Then we went on a weekend trip for golfing and fishing and a couple of games of poker after dinner, and then he started calling me “Solid”.
Can you tell us a joke?
No. I’m really bad at telling jokes. I like them but I always forget them.
Ha ha ha, good one! OK, finish this sentence: my teammates would say I am...
Erm... honest? That’s a good question. That would be good to know, I don’t know what they would say.
We'll ask around for you. Thanks Solid. Good luck on the weekend.
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Ritter :blush:
Didnt fit Ange's way of playing - so out on his ear is my guessQuote:
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three questions:
1) does allsopp get paid out the rest of his contract, and is that payment included in the salary cap? and if it does, and say his contract was over two seasons, does the payment for each season get spread across both of those seasons?
2) will his replacement also be included in the cap, or will it work like an injury replacement where if they pay the replacement the same amount it is not also added to the cap?
3) can we ask marko jesic & sam gallaway to retire?
Lovin' the Rit.
1) He Should get at minimum some type of pay out. If an injury has hampered him then he should get the full value of his contract. Alssopp may have also agreed with Victree to have his contract canceled for a set figureQuote:
Originally Posted by pv4
If his contract was for 2 seasons there is no reason why the Victree can't pay him his full dues this season and go in this seasons Salary Cap. Also they could pay him a bit now and a bit later which would also go into both seasons salary caps. Depends how the club chooses to proceed from an accounting perspective and their arrangement with Allsopp
Not to mention any underhanded deals that have been agreed here where Danny Allsopp may turn up at Victree training next season getting paid 150k as a coach with his only job to collect the witches hats and cones at the end of training. Allsopp may also be gifted other jobs within Victree or with any of their sponsors/owners. This issue is a bit dicey as it can be viewed as a salary cap breach. If the club have gone down this line they will not have anything in writing on it and Alssopp will return almost by accident to not make it look deliberate
2 Unsure on this as if Allsopp has some type of injury that is not really known about and Victree go down this line they should be able to use the injury replacement angle for a new player coming in
3 Yes we can as long as Kanta is added to the list
would also like to know the answers to questions 1 and 2...seems to depend what club it is.Quote:
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p.s. sack jesic and make gallaway the GK coach...caitlan out
hopefully they succeed and make it backQuote:
A-LEAGUE boss Damien de Bohun has welcomed the North Queensland Fury's rebirth and plans to return to the elite level.
While the club, which has been rebranded as the Northern Fury, is only in its early stages and will come back through the Australian Premier League next year, de Bohun said it was already ticking plenty of boxes.
The Fury were axed from the A-League after just two seasons at the end of the 2010/11 campaign.
But under the guidance of former chief executive Rabieh Krayem and NQ Football president Greg Redington, a business plan and timeline has been devised with a 2017 return to the national competition slated.
After the Fury were thrown together hastily in their previous life, de Bohun said the extended plan was an excellent start.
"Taking time to build a strong foundation to demonstrate over an extended period and build a business case that there is a serious and viable market at an A-League level, is obviously the sort of thing that we would look at when assessing opportunities down the track," de Bohun said.
Having learnt from past mistakes, Northern are starting from the ground up.
The Fury will be the name of all NQ representative teams from under-12s, creating a strong sense of identity and a player pathway.
Football Queensland are behind the rebirth, which also aims to have a Fury team playing the National Youth League by 2014.
"There is no doubt that the future success of the A-League and the W-League will be predicated on the extent on which we build meaningful relationships with member federations," de Bohun said.
"That enables us to convert the huge number of participants into genuine transit into the competition, so that side of the way they have gone about it is pleasing and holds them in good stead."
Brisbane are Queensland's only representative in the A-League and de Bohun said the lack of representation in the North left a major void.
"I do get that it is a geographically and demographically disperse state, with the largest number of people living outside a capital city in any state in Australia," he said.
De Bohun said past failures would not count against the Fury if and when they were considered for inclusion in an expanded A-League.
"Does that disqualify from being considered in the future? The answer is definitely, no," he said.
While the Fury have a five-year plan, de Bohun said the immediate focus was on ensuring the success of the league's current 10 teams.
"The rate or speed of success will have a major bearing on any consideration for expansion down the track," he said.
lolololQuote:
Can you tell us a joke?
No.
What three people – dead or alive – would you invite round for dinner?
Maybe Michael Jackson... He’s a legend! And some girls, for sure. The other two would be pretty girls – and Michael Jackson.
fkn lol, Ritter loves the bitches
Probably why they nicknamed him The Destroyer.
He isn't even specific, he just wants any two pretty girls to destroy. Not sure what MJ would be doing at the same time
I know it's easy with hindsight but one of the dumbest things FFA done was to put in another two QLD sides before Western Sydney. Good to see that they are building things from the ground-up this time and providing a solid base. A lot of decent footballers have come from that area so I think that ultimately they need a team in the HAL.Quote:
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Hunter Ports Newcastle Jets head coach Gary van Egmond says the Jets still have room for improvement and won’t be resting on their laurels, despite their F3 Derby win over the Central Coast Mariners on Saturday.
While van Egmond said he was very pleased after the Jets secured the three points against their fierce local rivals, he said there were still aspects of their game that needed work.
“I was reasonably happy with the performance, but I wouldn’t say it’s something you can hang your hat on,” van Egmond said.
“I still think you have to play better than that if you’re going to be a force this year. I think overall Central Coast was probably the better team performance-wise, but we were probably a little bit hungrier for it.
“The one thing that we do look like at the moment, is that whenever that ball goes in that front third, there looks like there’s goals in us and we look dangerous.
“We’ve still got some work to do and we’re under no illusions about that, but I was very, very happy with their attitude and their effort.
“We talked about their character and this is the type of game to see what sort of character you have as an individual and as a team.”
The Jets took the lead through a Ryan Griffiths penalty in the fifth minute, but then had to weather an attacking storm by the Mariners for a portion of the first half.
Van Egmond said he was pleased with the way the Jets responded to the pressure applied by the Central Coast in what was a typically intense derby atmosphere.
“The match probably didn’t settle for a good 15 minutes, both teams didn’t find their rhythm too early and I think Central Coast were definitely on top at the beginning of the game.
“We came back into it part way through that first half, but it was real derby atmosphere.
“We’ve worked on our defensive shape and made sure we’re a lot thriftier in regards to letting goals be conceded against us.
“On the transition we have to be better. We have to be better at winning the ball, getting people into position, not having so many touches and creating better rhythm in our build-up.”
Van Egmond said some half-time adjustments helped the Jets perform better in the second 45.
“What we were trying to do with our pressing in the first half, we got that a little bit wrong with the positioning and which player to take.
“We started to understand that a little bit better and that made it a little bit easier for us to close players down.
“Overall I thought their energy was good and their attitude was great and it was great to see the character of the football team come through.”
Van Egmond was diplomatic when asked about the decisions by the referee to award the Jets a penalty and rule out Patrick Zwaanswijk’s stoppage-time equaliser for being offside.
“That’s been the case since day dot with refereeing decisions and you can always interpret them one way or another, but that’s just football,” he said.
“Graham Arnold is probably looking at it that the Mariners didn’t get the rub of the green, where I’m probably thinking we did get the rub of the green. Next time we play each other it could be the opposite. That’s just how it happens.”
Surprised only 4 games are being planned, with a 6 month off season there is plenty of scope for these sorts potential of money spinners, I guess they could do a few more in aus as well.Quote:
Sydney FC to cash in on Alessandro Del Piero show with overseas exhibitions
EXCLUSIVE - Tom Smithies
The Daily Telegraph
October 23, 2012 12:00AM
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Laughing all the way to the bank... Marquee man Alessandro Del Piero is set to profit from a series of Sydey FC exhibition games. Picture: Gregg Porteous. Source: The Daily Telegraph
SYDNEY FC plan to take the Alessandro Del Piero halo to an international market, lining up a series of overseas exhibition games including the possibility of a memorable encounter with Juventus in Turin.
Just as LA Galaxy sold out stadiums overseas on the back of signing David Beckham, Sydney have set their sights on a lucrative post-season tour of Asia to cash in on Del Piero's huge popularity.
The games were included in the contract negotiations that brought Del Piero to Australia, and include the option for him to organise and promote a fixture in Italy.
The Italian star will share in the revenue from the games, and receive all the proceeds if he takes up the option of organising a game between the sky blues and an Italian club - Juventus is the logical first point in negotiations.
It's understood that the Asian countries under consideration include Malaysia, China, Vietnam and Indonesia - the latter hosting one of the largest Juventus fan clubs in the world outside Italy, according to the Italian club's own website.
The exact amount it will be worth to Sydney remains a work in progress, dependent on markets, the sale of TV rights and similar factors.
When Galaxy first came to Sydney in 2007 they received $1.25 million as a fee, a contribution to their airfares and accommodation at what was then Star City as a sponsorship.
But Football Federation Australia was able to sell 80,000 tickets at an average of $70 each, as well as a broadcast deal with the Ten Network, and it's unlikely that the markets under consideration for a Sydney FC tour would sustain prices anywhere near that.
Nonetheless, the games will boost both Sydney's bottom line and its profile, with kit sponsorship available for such one-off games as well as fees for playing in the games.
The games are being arranged by the FIFA-accredited agent Lou Sticca, who worked with Sydney CEO Tony Pignata to bring Del Piero to Sydney as well as arranging Shinji Ono's move to Western Sydney Wanderers.
Sticca has arranged tours here and overseas since the days of the NSL - including bringing Juventus to Melbourne this year - and confirmed he was looking at an itinerary for Sydney FC.
"Sydney have asked me to plan their post-season and I'm in the middle of doing that right now," Sticca said.
"We've spoken to a number of possible destinations, and there's lots of interest though nothing yet confirmed.
"It will be immediately after the A-League season, so late April and early May, and the club have agreed to up to four games."
Though Del Piero is wildly popular in Japan, it's believed that market is seen as saturated, especially given the recent visits of EPL clubs.
Sydney will shortly introduce a dedicated Del Piero range of merchandise beyond just named shirts, with the club hoping to make substantial overseas sales.
Coach Holger Osieck hopes to continue the Socceroos' momentum after confirming Australia will face South Korea in an international friendly next month.
Having defeated Iraq 2-1 last week, Australia sit second in Group B of the final round of World Cup qualifying in Asia.
Seems this bloke has always got another issue, if you rated these kids so highly why did you wait to lock them in earlier.Quote:
Adelaide United chairman calls on Football Federation Australia to help clubs keep young players
Val Migliaccio
The Advertiser
October 23, 2012 12:00AM
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Adelaide United chairman Greg Griffin. Picture: Matt Turner Source: The Advertiser
ADELAIDE United chairman Greg Griffin says Football Federation Australia must protect clubs from losing youth investments after two SA teenagers signed for rival Melbourne Heart.
Griffin was angered when Adelaide-born pair Stefan Mauk, 17, and Ben Garruccio, 17, joined Heart after stints with the Australian Institute of Sport.
"I'm very unhappy about it," Griffin said.
"What I'm saying, it's incumbent of the FFA probably with JALSC (Joint A-League Strategic Committee) to introduce proper protection for A-League clubs that invest heavily in time and in resources to develop players.
"That they (players) go to the AIS and then they just get basically pinched and it's not good enough.
"Until there are changes young players that come to us and say, `We want to play for Adelaide United, shall we go to the AIS?' we're going to say, 'Why would you? It's not going to advance you one iota with us."'
Griffin is adamant allowing SA-based players to join the AIS is a ticket out of Adelaide United's youth program.
Garruccio and Mauk went to China with Adelaide's youth side last year and featured for the Reds at the international Weifang Cup.
Griffin said the pair was also invited to be part of the Reds in China this year but they were made unavailable.
"They got pulled out at the last moment," Griffin said.
"We got a message saying they weren't available because they were training with other A-League clubs and we then expected them to train with us. Instead they were sent to Melbourne Heart."
Griffin, however, says there is a solution, believing A-League clubs should have more control over their youth.
"Every youth player that an A-League club invests in should get put on a list," Griffin said.
"There should be a first right of refusal for any of those players for a period of say 12 months."
Tony Vidmar, boss of the AIS soccer program, said Mauk and Garruccio had made up their own minds.
"I gave Greg Griffin the heads up about Stefan and Ben and the interest from other A-League clubs after we had discussions before this year's Weifang Cup," Vidmar said.
"In the end it was the decision of the boys.
"I have never had a say as to where or which club they should go to."
It seems they lost these kids because of sheer laziness
I expect someone to drop a bag of $100 bills out side my house every week but it does not mean it will happen.Quote:
"We got a message saying they weren't available because they were training with other A-League clubs and we then expected them to train with us. Instead they were sent to Melbourne Heart."
This is from the same club that shunned Goodwin, looks like a greater pattern of Adelaide not showing enough respect to the talent on their doorstep.
Will be interesting to see how long the ratings can maintain the current levels, form and novelty factor will have an impact sooner or latter then the real progress can be seen.Quote:
Sell-out crowds and bumper television ratings prove a marquee result
Jamie Pandaram and Tim Elbra
The Daily Telegraph
October 23, 2012 12:00AM
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Sydney's Alessandro Del Piero (front) and Newcastle's Emile Heskey (back) have been a huge factor in the A-league's crowd and ratings boom. Source: AFP
A-LEAGUE boss Damien de Bohun says the competition continues to make unprecedented gains in the sporting market after three weeks of the new season.
Crowds and television ratings have soared on the back of high-profile recruits Alessandro Del Piero, Emile Heskey and Shinji Ono, with gate attendances up 51 per cent on last season's average, and Fox Sports ratings up 37 per cent on the same time last year.
"Public interest in the A-League has been at an all-time high and it was fantastic to see the sold-out crowd at the first ever Sydney derby on Saturday night," de Bohun said.
"On the back of the Sydney FC v Newcastle Jets match and the first Melbourne derby, average crowds have increased by over 50 per cent on last year's total.
"The other thing that is important is the nearly 40 per cent increase we have seen in our television broadcasts."
Last weekend's round-three fixtures drew an average of 82,000 viewers, with both the Sydney derby and Melbourne Victory v Adelaide games drawing 102,000 each.
Also, Central Coast have already reported huge interest around their round-five match against Sydney.
ANZ Stadium officials anticipate a crowd of more than 25,000 for Sunday's first A-League match at the ground, between Sydney FC and Perth.
* BRETT Emerton has slammed as "unfair" the claims of Western Sydney goalkeeper Ante Covic that Del Piero gets special treatment from A-League referees.
Del Piero won and converted a penalty rebound in the Sky Blues' 1-0 win over Wanderers on Saturday, but Covic called the penalty on Aaron Mooy for tripping "soft" and only awarded because of the Italian's aura.
"The fouls that (good players) draw are mainly due to their ability with the football, not because the referees are protecting them," Emerton said.
So they might fill one half of the stadium??!Quote:
Also, Central Coast have already reported huge interest around their round-five match against Sydney.
Tink's seems to be Rothfields off season passion, wonder how long till the terror get the same treatment as the herald.Quote:
Government chasing Nathan Tinkler for $1.2m in stadium rent
Phil Rothfield
The Daily Telegraph
October 23, 2012 12:00AM
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Newcastle Knights owner Nathan Tinkler. Source: Bloomberg
HE was once one of Australia's richest men - now Nathan Tinkler's refusing to pay the full amount of ground rental for his NRL and A-League teams.
Cash-strapped businessman Nathan Tinkler owes the state government $1 million and has had to negotiate a repayment deal to settle the debt. The now Singapore-based Tinkler has been in dispute for several months over homeground rental for the Newcastle Knights and Newcastle Jets.
Revelations of the money owing were raised when Sports Minister Graham Annesley was questioned at a recent budget estimates meeting.
It comes a week after The Daily Telegraph revealed Tinkler was late with player payments, superannuation and staff wages at the Knights. After months of negotiations, Hunter Sports Group has agreed to pay more than $880,000 but is still disputing another $400,000 of the $1.2 million debt.
Other NRL clubs Parramatta and St George-Illawarra play at government-run grounds but are up to date with their payments.
In a deal struck last week, Hunter Sports Group has agreed to pay $583,000 due by October 31 and another $300,000 by November 21.
HSG also owes third-party payments to players that have to be settled within 10 days.
In May, BRW estimated Tinkler's wealth at $915 million, and he was once Australia's richest man under 40.
He is in court today on another matter after failing to comply with an order to pay building company Mirvac $17 million to settle a property deal. Mirvac has lodged a contempt of court order to seize Tinkler's assets, which could involve taking thoroughbreds from his Patinack Farm racing empire.
Tinkler's chequered sporting history
The Knights' position is secure because of a $20 million bank guarantee negotiated by the club's former CEO Steve Burraston, but the Newcastle Rugby League is still owed more than $100,000 in a junior development grant.
Annesley and former NRL boss John Quayle have been in talks with Knights executives about the money owed.
"Although the discussions with Hunter Sports Group have taken longer than I would have liked I'm pleased we have now reached agreement on the bulk of the debt," Annesley said. "Discussions are continuing regarding the remaining $400,000 in dispute."
Annesley told a budget estimates meeting last week the money was owed for use of the stadium and catering services.
Hunter Sports Group spokesman Richard Fisk confirmed Tinkler had withheld payments for ground rental because of the dispute.
"As part of ongoing negotiations for a new 10-year hirer's agreement with Hunter Venues, some payments have been withheld by HSG, subject to the finalisation of the new agreement," Fisk said.
"Negotiations are anticipated to be completed within the next fortnight, with two lump sum payments having been agreed to finalise the transaction."
how is griffin the clown, kids play for adelaide for 1 year and he claims to developed them. they prob spent as much time in the adelaide youth set up as they did at the AIS. what about the amatuer club they played for?
pfft, as if that 1 year with adelaide didn't do more than 15 years of intensive training with amatuer clubs, elite youth programs and coerver coaches.Quote:
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Bloke had a great game other than a couple of generous decisions to not book Coastie players for fouls.Quote:
REFEREE Ben Williams and at least one of his assistants could be dumped this week after their boss admitted they had made critical mistakes during Central Coast's controversial 2-1 loss to Newcastle on Saturday.
While newly appointed Football Federation Australia director of referees Ben Wilson refused to be drawn on the immediate future of the match officials, he told The Australian there was no escaping the fact they had got at least three of four contentious rulings wrong during the spiteful F3 Derby.
His admission came as Mariners chairman Peter Turnbull called for the introduction of a captain's referral system.
Turnbull believes "it is about time for a review system" after the Mariners went behind to a penalty then had a last-minute goal disallowed.
"It is no point pretending technology is not in our sport. If we really did not allow technology, we'd still be wearing ankle-choker boots and wearing heavy woollen jerseys and using lace-up leather balls,"he said.
Mariners coach Graham Arnold was quietly seething over Williams's failure to send off Jets midfielder Ruben Zadkovic in the first minute of the match for a studs up tackle, and an offside that went against Josh Rose.
Arnold did not want to discuss the situation yesterday, but he described Williams's effort as "pretty average" during the post-match conference. "I will probably get called a whinger, but the incidents that happened in the first five minutes turned the match," Arnold said.
Wilson, who recently replaced former referees boss Mark Shield, said there was no question Zadkovic should have been red carded, that the Emile Heskey penalty decision was incorrect and that the assistant referee should not have flagged Rose offside.
"The clubs have asked the referees to concentrate on the safety of the players," Wilson said. "In Zadkovic's case, the player's safety was endangered by that tackle and he should have been sent off. Whether it was the first minute or the 90th, those sort of tackles have to be punished with a red card."
Former England international Heskey was awarded a penalty four minutes later after a collision with Michael McGlinchey.
"That decision was incorrect," Wilson said. "The contact was minimal and Heskey probably played for the penalty. The referee wasn't well positioned and it was a harsh decision."
Not long after that goal, Rose was ruled offside after he raced on to a pass and was left in open space with several teammates in support. "There is no defending that ruling, unfortunately," Wilson said. "The assistant referee was well positioned but he was focusing on the wrong player (Daniel McBreen). Rose came from well inside his own half."
Wilson said disallowing Patrick Zwaanswijk's goal for offside was right, but he conceded it could have gone either way and that the assistant referee would "not have been marked down for putting his flag up or down".
"Finally some good news," he quipped. "The player had his foot or leg off side, so it was a correct ruling, but our guys are instructed to give the benefit of the doubt to the attacking team."
Wilson said it was too early to decide if Williams and his assistants would get games this weekend. "I will look at the official match inspector's report in the next day or two and that will be compared to our elite coach, who will also do an assessment through what he has seen on the videos," he said.
That match aside, Wilson was delighted with the overall performances of his match officials.
"The first two rounds have seen some great entertainment and the referees have not been spoken about," he said.
As for the captain's referral, Wilson is not in favour of it because "it isn't foolproof and as you have seen in other sports you probably get as many contentious decisions coming from the video referee's box as you would from referees".
Needs a tickertape parade does Ben Williams
Why does this sort of report only occur when we are on the good side of the decisions????
How many times have we been raped by Breezey or pumped by some other chump of a ref, and been told that the decision is final and to cop it on the chin?
Deans porked Matthew Breeze's mrs. Until he leaves, we're gonna be copping more on the chin.
Awesome wind up from the refs boss.
rubbing it in to the Gypos even further.
Good lad that bloke.
Exactly right. TBH, im surprised it has even come to this. They were contentious issues but not necessarily blatantly wrong (besides zad's).Quote:
Originally Posted by Bon
Here's my take:
Issue 1 - The pen
Heskey gets to the ball first and is then clattered into by McGlinchey. To me that's a foul. As soft as it may or may not be, we've all seen things like this given. It wasnt as if Heskey dived with no contact. There was strong contact, Hesk went down, ref gave pen. Pretty simple really.
Issue 2 - Rose offside
Now, the linesman is looking across the line. McBreen is clearly offside. He makes a run for the ball and is just about to touch it when he realises Rose is behind him. He (McBreen) even deviates his run. Offside rule states "Making a gesture or movement which, in the opinion of the referee, deceives or distracts an opponent." To me, McBreen's run would have definitely attracted Biras attention, therefore he's offside.
Issue 3 - Zsansowieiwieleke offside
He was offside. Absolutely clear-cut, linesman should be praised. There was no need for "benefit of the doubt" because there was no doubt, he was clearly offside.
Issue 4 - Zad tackle(s)
First could have been straight red, but it was great to see the ref didnt want to ruin the game 12secs in. Well done ref. Seriously though, he could have received a straight red for either of the tackles, the one on Sterj should have atleast been a yellow.
All-in-all I dont agree they were completely robbed like theyre making out.
Whose this prick to say heskey was looking for the penalty? What striker wouldn't? It was clumsy and a deadset pen!! Has he gone on to say anything about Del Piero looking for it?
the ref also got some things very wrong against the mariners:
- how is chilli's push a yellow, yet sterj's one was not?
- when bojic got his yellow, he took two blokes out within a second. both of them were equally as bad as each other, and both deserved a yellow. i've personally never seen it done, but the ref had every right to put up the yellow twice for that one exchange, and give him a red.
- hutcho was in the refs ears all day. when chilli went in for that pen call, hutcho called the ref to give chilli a yellow for diving. put his hand up and everything. last i checked, players were carded for asking the ref to card others.
- rose on chilli. man.
i'm not saying he didn't get any decisions wrong against us, i'm just pointing out what most articles/reviews/opinions fail to.
with heskey - it's a professional dive and definately worthy of a pen. it highlights his class more than anything imo. lulz that a 60kg bloke knocks over a 100kg bloke though
as a neutral watching, i would have given zwaansvijk's offside a goal. to me, it's advantage to the attacker. he had his foot offside maybe, but he was sort of onside. arsenal would have scored a lot less goals through adebayor over the years if those sort of calls weren't given. but i understand how the linesman saw it as offside, from his PoV he's looking at a body that is in front of any other.
This type of thing shits me though. The rule is black and white. Whether he was 10cm or 10m offside is irrelevant. Otherwise where would you draw the line? Oh we'll let this one go because only half his body is offside but we wont let this one because 3/4 of his body was offside? If he's offside, he's offside, it's as simple as that.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
It's advantage to the attacker if it's a line call. This however was not a line call, he was clearly offside. Absolutely fantastic work from the linesman.
they also missed the repeated hacking of goodwin. but you know what, i'll let it slide, cause unlike the whinging wankers from wyong, we bloody won.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
and also "captains referral", fark off you tool. this isn't bloody cricket you dick.
Bojic should have had a yellow in the first half for a poor tackle, from behind, on Goodwin.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
Hutcho has to be booked for that professional foul on the edge of the box on Vrigili after he skipped past Rose in the second half.
No way is Zwaansvijk's goal onside. They showed a replay on TWG last night and he was clearly offside.
That linesman on the Eastern line is the one deserving of all the praise. Hilarious work by the kid. The biggest error was missed by everyone - a defence-splitting through ball to Ibini, who was subsequently ruled offside.
He was probably 4-6 metres onside; would've been one on one with no pressure (as our defence had stepped forward). Great work!!!
For me the pen was legit (Heskey got the front position and got one from behind) and the Zwaans offside was offside. The Ibini decision proves that good things can come from the wrong decision (just ask anyone who has dropped two microdots in one night).