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Can confirm the Christian leagues are entirely outside FFA's influence. Not much FFA can do about them. There has been talk about them moving to being under NNSWF banner, but with this, I doubt it will happen now.
As for local clubs, St Johns Anglican, the newest club to Newcastle football, may have to change our name.
good, this is straya.
there is no place for religion here.
You're making a hell of a lot of assumptions.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
If a bunch of people want to start a football club and they want some reference to something that they share in common I can't see how if that commonality is ethnicity that incorporating it into their club name or badge or colours doesn't anything to alienate people from the sport..... By not letting new clubs acknowledge a shared heritage amongst its founders actually aliens them for the the wider game.
A group of recently arrived afghan refugees seek to start a football club in order to help strengthen their community by coming together to support each other and start the process of assimilating into Australian sporting community, one thing they wish to include in their name/logo is the snow leopard and play in black and white.
FFA says NO, you must assimilate under our terms, we want to be inclusive, so you aren't welcome to celebrate your heritage.
How he **** does that make sense?
Football is the world game, except in Australia where you must pretend we are the same, instead of celebrating the fact we are all different.
There is a very high probability they will be doing that anyway for next season so it wont be an issue for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
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Originally Posted by GazFish35
Care to elaborate? Are you involved with us, or have you just head that around the zone meetings?Quote:
Originally Posted by scarfy96
I had a whole thing typed about the NSL and the problem with clubs founded with Ethnic roots but it all got to involved and complex, let's just say, you aren't wrong, but you're not right either. it is a fine line between the idea and the reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
If these ethnic teams are playing park football what's the problem???
They ain't in the national league like they once we're
Who comes up with this dumb shit??
The clowns at FFA need to mend some fences with the ethnicity not further marginalised them
Dumb ****s
Be cool if the introduced something like this in England.....................No more ****ing Arsenal. :D
I know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocknerd
My argument is flawed when you start asking clubs to be finacially viable on a national league perspective..... thats when the economic impact of having a club based on small minority of the community comes into play.
I'm just not a fan of the FFA mandating that clubs must be homogenised.
If South Melbourne can be finacially viable on a national stage by only appealing to the greek community, then good luck to them, Sydey United likewise. If us Anglo's want homoginsed clubs in order to throw our finacial support behind football, then we should do what all the ethnic communities have done and support a ****ing football club.
If ethnic based clubs cant be finacially viable then they have to open their doors and be more welcoming, or they fall from grace, but the fall from grace must be from their own doing, not from the governing body telling them they can no longer be in the top league because of the ethnicity of the comunity they respresent.
A scenario
In thirty years time the jets fold.
Magic win promotion to the top league ion the country.
they can support themselves through the hard work and financial backing of the newcastle macedonian community
good luck to them.
if they cant support themselves, theyre relgated.
they are replaced by a club who can support themselves
why must the FFA mandate club logos etc?
simply set a series of suggested "best practice" guidlines.
if you want yoyur club to be finacially viable, its best practice to be imaged in a manner that is inclusive of all.
if you want to image yourselves as representing one section of the community...... you might struggle to be finacially viable.
BUT LEAVE THE FRIGGIN DECISION TO THE CLUBS
world is spinning in opposite direction! MFKS posts something i agree with!Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Someone's just created themselves some work IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
I don't care about viability at all, and I agree FFA shouldn't mandate anything regarding any club. However the focus should be on inclusiveness. The old clubs built on the backs of Immigrants became to inclusive and stopped themselves from growing and joining with the greater community (from my experiences in the NSL anyway). If these clubs had been more forward thinking and focus less on holding onto the pasts they left behind, thought more of the future that could be, we'd never have had to dismantle the NSL and the A-League would never have happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
This isn't the first time that old clubs have been asked to remove their ethnic attachments from the clubs, after all Sydney and Melbourne Croatia, South Melbourne Hellas etal had to change their names to assimilate with Aus culture more in the 90's.
It sounds similar to something that the AFL tried to implement a number of years ago whereby Community Clubs were actively encouraged to follow the kit design and moniker of one of the AFL clubs. Some clubs took it up, but there was such a backlash from the "old boys" that it was quickly abandoned.Quote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
they deregistered 2 yrs ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
it costs $100 for rego which include ins. this means the asshole ffa and northern have to skulk for funds from exhobitant junior fees.
Johns St AnglersQuote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
Relax I will be home in 3 weeks and the Sth American air will not be filling my head with sanityQuote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
No more Spurs either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skirt Boy
Why has the club insisted on following this 10 years bullshit this season. We were not formed at the start of the a-league, we formed before it! Farken hell it pisses me off
to be fair to the club, they haven't said anywhere that it is the clubs 10 year anniversary, only that it is the JETS 10 year anniversary.
in saying that, we should of had a 10 yr celebration when it was the CLUBS 10 yr.
Didn't con put something on? Or plan something before he lost it?
Tottenham is a geographical area and Tottenham Hotspur are based in.......Tottenham.Quote:
Originally Posted by Premy
The nickname Hotspur is derived from Henry Percy a knight/nobleman with strong links to the local area around Tottenham.
On Tuesday 5 September 1882, the Hotspur Football Club was formed by grammar-school boys from the Bible class at All Hallows Church.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skirt Boy
Grasshoppers of Zurich, Newell's Old Boys, Barcelona SC, Real Salt Lake....it just gets sillier the more you look into it.
Not on a public forum right at this moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
Don't really see the point in signing ward, does not fill the CB, LB, Winger or Striker positions which are either light on in the squad or publicly being discussed, a really pointless squad filler type signing but we already have a heap of those on the books.Quote:
2014-15 season: video
By JAMES GARDINER
June 30, 2014, 10:30 p.m
PHIL Stubbins has at least two places to fill on his roster but the rookie Newcastle Jets coach could afford a smile after a promising opening to the pre-season.
The Jets began preparations for the 2014-15 A-League campaign with a ballwork session at Ray Watt Oval yesterday.
Stubbins, assistant Clayton Zane and new strength and conditioning coach Andrew Packer put the group through a rigorous 90-minute workout.
‘‘There was certainly a lot of energy out there and the boys embraced the session really well,’’ Stubbins said.
‘‘In terms of the first interaction between the group and the new coaching staff, it was excellent.
‘‘We will have the balls out every day.
‘‘In terms of the touch and everything else, and the quality of the training session, it was a good standard.’’
Star recruit Marcos Flores, right back Scott Neville and luckless midfielder Mitch Cooper, who are recovering from knee reconstructions, worked with physiotherapist Rob Dingle.
Andrew Hoole is recovering from a shoulder operation last month and was a spectator.
Ecuadorian striker Edson Montano and keeper Mark Birighitti, who has been given extra time off, were the only players not in attendance.
Stubbins had hoped to have the squad completed by the start of the pre-season but Adam Taggart’s transfer to Fulham and the surprise exit by Zenon Caravella has left a couple of holes.
Stubbins said talks were advanced with a holding midfielder, a striker and a winger.
‘‘It is a matter of deciding which ones we want,’’ he said.
‘‘Financially we have come to an understanding. That has been almost agreed.
‘‘Who we bring in is the question? We certainly want to bring in two of those.’’
The biggest shoes to fill are those of Taggart.
The 21-year-old had a breakthrough season in which he scored 16 goals, almost half of the Jets’ haul of 34, to claim the Golden Boot and a trip with the Socceroos to the World Cup in Brazil where he started against Spain.
‘‘We need to get the balance right,’’ Stubbins said.
‘‘Everyone has to have a point of difference up front.
‘‘We have two strikers in Joel Griffiths and Edson Montano. Joel was very good in front of goal today and I hope that continues.
‘‘To bring someone else in, they have to be in the mould of Adam Taggart, who was a genuine goal scorer.
‘‘Looking at the squad from the outside in, and going through the squad, we needed more goals spread across the team.
‘‘As a reflection of that we have bought players in to the squad that will be able to facilitate that.
‘‘But 16 goals from one player, that is gone. The challenge now is for someone to fill that void.’’
In a good sign, Flores and Neville both ran freely.
‘‘It will be like getting three new players when we get Marcos, Scotty and Mitch back,’’ Stubbins said.
‘‘There is probably four or five weeks before any sort of stress is put on those players in terms of coming back to the group.
Stubbins hoped that Montano, who is in Ecuador awaiting visa approval, would be here soon.
‘‘He is from South America; how long that process takes, I don’t know at this point.
‘‘We are doing everything we can to get him here as quick as possible. We need him here.’’
Nick Ward, who played the final third of last season as an injury replacement for Cooper, is trialling for a permanent place.
‘‘We had good reports from the staff with regards to his input last year,’’ Stubbins said.
‘‘So far he has done very well. He was really good in the testing the other day and hopefully, things continue on and it comes to a positive conclusion.’’
The Jets have pencilled in July 23 for their first game most likely against the Malaysian under 23s at Magic Park.
‘‘The games will flow after that, leading up to the Townsville Cup (August 24-30) which will be great, playing against Brisbane Roar and Sydney FC,’’ Stubbins said.
‘‘Everyone knows the A-League has a long pre-season and we have plenty of time to prepare ourselves.
‘‘I have come in and said from the start that we need to change the dynamic a little bit.
‘‘We need to move forward and are trying to instil a new culture.
‘‘There will obviously be a change because somebody else has come into the [coach’s] seat.
‘‘If you look at the clubs at the pointy end of the A-League, they have things in place which have allowed them to get there.
‘‘Having good players is one thing – I think we have some good players – but also the culture. The everyday environment, how they go about their business, how they represent the shirt of the club.’’
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/23...-video/?cs=306
I agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Pico
I really liked Ward last season. He's a very experienced utility who seemed to bring a good vibe to the trainings I watched.
Hope the defensive mid they're talking to is Jobe.
Great to see Fox jumping on board early with an all NPL fixture, I had thought that they might only show the games where HAL opponents are present.Quote:
Broadmeadow Magic to host first televised FFA Cup game
By CRAIG KERRY
June 30, 2014, 5:30 p.m
BROADMEADOW Magic will host the first televised game of the inaugural nationwide FFA Cup knockout on July 29.
Dates and venues for round of 32 games were confirmed on Monday and Magic were given the honour of featuring first on Fox Sports’ live coverage of the competition.
They will take on former National Soccer League club Brisbane Strikers at Magic Park from 7.30pm.
Fellow Northern NSW National Premier League club South Cardiff are away to Victorian third-tier club South Springvale in one of the other three matches to be played simultaneously on July 29.
The Gunners with feature in live crosses on Fox Sports along with Manly United versus Sydney Olympic and Melbourne Knights versus Queensland NPL outfit Olympic FC.
Newcastle Jets host Perth Glory on August 5 at a venue yet to be determined, although Magic may also host that fixture due Hunter Stadium’s unavailability.
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/23...p-game/?cs=306
Would be great to see the single camera at other games used for the highlights and live crosses to be available to be streamed on either fox sports or the FFA website.
Confirms that Hunter Stadium definitely wont be used for the cup game. I like the idea of using No. 2 personally, but can see the club looking to either take it out to cessnock or somewhere else around NNSW.
You're dreaming if you think its Jobe, burned Bridges (:lol:) and all that, I'd say it will be a visa player.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
I don't think Ward played badly at the end of last year, but we just don't need another CM who is neither filling a gap in the squad or a standout above what we already have.
There's a few of the people at the club when those bridges were burnt that aren't there anymore, though. Like GVE, for eg.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pico
I thought most of the time Ward came on it was as a second striker - just throwing someone on who could hold onto the ball and relieve some of the pressure we had by continually losing the ball. The amount of HAL clubs Ward has been through I'd assume he doesn't exactly have a host of clubs offering him big deals so I daresay for a former Aus youth and Championship player that he'd come relatively cheap. And while probably not being looked at as a starter, he's a pretty useful sub to bring on IMO.
Wouldn't Stubbs be looking to put Barresi on in the 2nd half if we need another ball player in the attacking 3rd? I really liked Ward last year and he would be a supurb squad addition, we may need him if Brilliante leaves, but i guess he would be slowing the potential growth of Cooper and Barresi if they are to have a crack at the first team this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
. Ward played left wing once or twice after Burns left and before Carney signed. He would be quality backup at a cheap price as he is desperate to continue in the A-league. Would also be a better backup to Flores tan Baressi and would probably start until Flores is fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pico
I would rather Ward than VirgilliQuote:
Originally Posted by borat
I'd be happy enough to sign Nick Ward. As was said earlier he's not going to cost a lot.
http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/...ing-soon/91011
So it looks like all the Marketing people have been sacked and Robbie and Phil are writing their own copy. Well its either them or the work experience kid.Quote:
This season we start a new chapter. A chapter where we can look forward to a brighter future knowing we have stuck together through good times and bad.
Our Members have been incredible, stood together and remained rock solid. This alone re-enforces the sentiment of proud, loyal Novocastrians that this town continues to own. Something that no other Club in the A-League can boast.
We’re all in this together. A whole Club working as one. And together as one, we are stronger and more powerful. Together we are confident that we can achieve our goal for the new season.
To continue our Club’s growth both on and off the field we need your support. We ask every fan and supporter to believe, unite and JOIN THE FIGHT by becoming a Member.
We are pleased to announce that Jets Membership will be going on-sale in July (keep an eye out for updates). If you are not a Member or a subscriber, sign up for a MyJETS Account here
Let’s let the rest of the A-League know that we’re coming united as one and stronger than ever.
Robbie Middleby and Phil Stubbins
That's a great. Little post by Rob and Phil. And we will gladly. Join the fight.
**** me, PR and Marketing OUT, absolute ****ing drivel IN.
Also, what's wrong with the tried and true REINFORCES?
Through what? The GVE years?Quote:
Our Members have been incredible, stood together and remained rock solid
To the Jets, just copy and paste this into your website to replace your article. You are free to use it:
"To Jets supporters, our recent history has left us truly humbled and extremely appreciative of the support you continue to show the club. We realise now we acted like giddy school girls chasing after that other team. What can we say? We thought they were what we always wanted. We didn't realise that we had everything we desired right here, and we chased after them, only be used and abused. They took our love, took our money and then deserted us.
We thought we had nowhere to turn and then we realised that what we desired most of all had been there all along. It was you, the kid with three Jets painted on your cheek. It was You, the humble old man with a thoughtful gaze that reveals an intelligent football brain. It was you, the happy and sometimes a bit rebellious teen who likes to stand on chairs a bit too much. It was you, the wife who organises her husband and four kids so that you can all get to the game before kick-off. It was you, the man who liked to yell abuse at Gary van Egmond.
It is not you who needs to change; You've been there for us, solid and unwavering through the last 3 seasons of HSG ownership. It's us. We got too big for our boots and forgot what community was about. We thought it was about us, not about you. This season is not about us asking you to do anything other than enjoy being yourselves. We aren't calling you to Believe, Unite and Join the Fight, because that would just be a cheesy slogan. It is about us standing up and showing that we represent you when we play. We can represent you because we now know deep inside who you are. The players we have in the squad this year are men who really want to be here, playing for our city and representing you.
We will make you proud again."