You guys need to move to heaton park also. That's where the id2 comp will be played out of next year. Teams are really rallying for it!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by sharky21
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You guys need to move to heaton park also. That's where the id2 comp will be played out of next year. Teams are really rallying for it!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by sharky21
Maybe if Tenambit had played at Heaton previously, Tenambits juniors were based out of Heaton, Heaton was actually closer to Tenambits sponsor than their current ground, Tenambits current ground had a cricket pitch in the field of play that made it dangerous to play on, Tenambit trained at Heaton and not at their current ground, and when Tenambit were asked if the game could be moved to Heaton the first response was "no we refuse to play there, we only won 3 games there last season" - maybe then teams would be rallying for Tenambit to move to Heaton.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesmond_sweeper
#justsayin
My old man played against jesmond back in the 70's in the old 2nd division at ram park and when we went back into Id's 10 or so years ago it was at ram park, we never had anything to do with our juniors previously until we moved down to heaton, sponsor is maybe an extra 100 metres away (is a guess as I don't have the time to go measure it), at a guess more then 50% of grounds in newcastle have a cricket pitch on them and being tackled on the pitch introduces you to manhood, why would we give up our right to host our "home game" at our "home ground"? (Which we love because of reasons I don't expect anyone to care about?Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
#just sayin.
I dont see the whole point of not moving the game to heaton. game was called off just as both teams were starting to warm up. jesmond seemed to be pretty divided when the ref said he would be happy to move the game to heaton or another local venue. Some of the older guys were pretty outraged at their younger team mates that were happy to play elsewhere.
Why is it such a heated topic for jesmond? Last year we had to move our last home game to morriset due to junior finals, not the ideal but at least we got to have a game.
probs works out good for us tho considering we only had 5 regular first graders available :gent:
As for the ref who called off the game on the weekend i hope he doesnt train at jesmond park tonight alongside the other refs as the ground is still very spongey. The refs train ( yes believe it or not they do train ) mondays and wednesdays at jesmond park and dont care if the ground is soft, they train straight up the guts and in the 18's. No respect for the surface.
In summary - we felt we were doing the right thing by trying to get the game on as felt the ground was far from dangerous. Most that took the time to inspect the ground agreed that game could have been played but ref disagreed. If we'd had called it ourselves there would have been a massive conspiracy theory.
I can't comment on the referee approaching us about changing the venue because wasn't there, arrived slightly after the decision was made but I can say categorically that a change in ground was suggested the day we were to play Olympic and the referee said the ground cannot be changed at such late notice. Same time frames as Saturday. Who knows though...?? End of day our home ground is now Jesmond Park, not Heaton and we don't expect you to love either of them, actually our preference is that you dread coming to play for whatever reason. We do with going out there and to Mussy.
Moving forward - Have people forgotten that another chapter in the 2012 forum keyboard rivalry between Olympic and Westlakes gets played out tonight on the pitch at Connolly Park? This could be an absolute cracker!
Massive game for both clubs, Westlakes especially with their well-known priority being promotion. Still feel at their best they are a quality side and deserve respect as 2012 major premiers. They will be well rested but Olympic have momentum from their good win over Charlestown where they showed exactly why they have both scored and conceded so many. Could go outright 3rd, bypassing Westlakes and will be on their way to securing a semi final spot. Hope I can get there.
I was one person who inspected the ground (before the refs had) and thought it was in too poor a condition to be played tbh. I even posted on here before the refs had made it to the field-side of the fence that the ground was terrible. There was wet mud slush on most parts of the ground, there were what looked like car and motorbike tracks ridden into the mud through the field. There were so many patches where there was just no grass - whether it be due to mud or that rock hard cement-like cricket pitch that was going on. The ball wouldn't have even rolled over some of the mud patches, and everyone would have slipped over without metal studs (and probably would have still) but then would have felt like they were ice-skating on and around the cricket pitch when they run on that hard bit.
It doesn't matter one bit where people have played at previously - whether it be hard bastards from the 70s or fresh IDs players from the 2000s. What matters is the ground is safe and suitable to play on. How Jesmond Park holds up after wet weather should be the biggest indicator to anyone, bias or not, that the ground is not suitable for a winter football competition.
Sweeper - probably the main reason you'd "give up your home game" is because you can't actually play on your home ground, as seen on Sat when they called it off. Just a thought there. And if, as Jesmond players said on Sat, you guys train on Heaton - wouldn't that feel like "home" too? Maybe even moreso? I'm sure there's good reasons for you guys being attached emotionally to the field. You've probably had some great summer cricket games there, or some nice picnics in the rose gardens, had a throw of disc golf, or maybe even managed to get weeks of sunny weather and played some football there. Players aren't dreading going to the ground because Jesmond are useful there (I'm not sure how they go there tbh) - they're dreading going there because they're scared they're going to break their legs and be out of work for weeks/months.
I can hardly believe that out of every 2 grounds you visit, one of them has a cricket pitch situated in the field of play. Most clubs that have a cricket pitch on their field have wised up and located the field of play off the cricket pitch.
What I don't get about all of this is Jesmond knew the ground was holding up poorly on Friday night, and didn't even attempt or think about relocating. The suggestion of Heaton on Saturday when the refs were walking around took everyone by surprise, it seems.
In summary - Jesmond Park is an awful ground and winter football teams shouldn't be allowed to use it, particularly when that cricket pitch hardens up. The ground is worse than Cahill Oval where Phoenix play - and that's saying something!
Grub - let's hope none of the refs training at Jesmond Park find their manhood and/or break their legs on that cricket pitch, the shortage of refs is bad enough as-is!
hey hey woah, let's not start saying things we don't mean here.. no senior ground is worse than Cahill
I am actually trying to get our remaining two home games moved to the pub and we have boat races with schooners for first and middies for res to see who gets the 3 points. ( Il be putting my hand up to do both grades that night).Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesmond_sweeper
Now on a less serious note can anyone tell the chances of the Wednesday night game between Merewether and Tenambit at Jesmond getting played?
Given the forecast of some rain tomorrow and Wednesday one would think it is looking a bit dicey but way too early to make any sort of call yet. Hopefully the refs won't make it any worse anyway......
The amount of running during games iv seen some refs do I'm not too worried they going to do much damage. hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Robbery
Wont be training at Jesmond this week since most of our referees will be out refereeing up to 4 nights to enable you all to catch up with your washout games.Referees only train when Jesmond Park is available but it seems to get called out by the council or club a lot of the time due to wet weather.Quote:
Originally Posted by grub
Olympic v westlakes
Both grades draws. Firsts 4-4. Olympic celebrating wildly for a draw at home against a weaker than half strength side. Entertaining game to say the least
[QUOTE=pv4;43351]Olympic v westlakes
Both grades draws. Firsts 4-4. Olympic celebrating wildly for a draw at home against a weaker than half strength side. Entertaining game to say the least[/
Pv4, why is it after every game u don't win, you have to make a point of mentioning either poor referring or u weren't at full strength?
I mention those things when we win too. I call it how I see it
making excuses like a school girl again I see. anyway great game especially to come back from 2 goals down. but on the other hand it seems we should be disappointed to only draw against a 'weaker than half strength side'. what were you at only 30% ? 25%?Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
in ressies 1-1
probably a fair result and was a competitive game. hamilton had the better chances tho. made it difficult for firsts when our striker playing first grade came on with 10 to go and gets a straight red in the final 10 seconds of the game.
firsts 4-4
once again score probably sums up the game pretty well. good effort for 3 of our backs playing basically two full games.
fair bit of controversy in the game. second cats goal disallowed due to offside, and the linesman later said he got it wrong looking at the wrong player.
then cats got a favourable call to later go up by a penalty. I thought it was pretty harsh even if it was the correct call. funny hearing the hamo coach pleading with the linesman saying it wasnt handball while pointing at his upper arm. 2 people were then sent from their bench.
red card for the stand in captain calling the ref a cheat.
and then cats give away a dumb penalty to even the score in the final minute.
all this made for a very entertaining match to watch. sounded like the jeso guys that were watching loved it also lol.
Well if you're asking I'll give you the variables and you can quantify how you see fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by dingdong
- 4 first graders who were fit and fresh
- 3 first graders who came to the game to watch only due to being so injured and high on painkillers, and only played due to lack of numbers
- 4 (inc gk) players who played reserve grade (edit: two of which were normally first graders)
- 1 starting first grader sent off in the last minute of reserves so couldn't play, we won't let him live it down easily :rof:
Btw out of purely curiositiy, but feel free to name call about it - did your #4 receive a second yellow? The supporter-side linesman said he did, but the ref didn't give a red
EDIT: btw we're not making excuses. We were really happy with our huge effort with limited players. We just found it funny that we were noticeably weak and Olympic went wild at the end of the game :rof:
ah standard westlakes hahaha. How were we to know you blokes were so utterly depleted? I apologise for the celebrations, we thought it was a staunch effort from our boys who played 2 games in 3 days and we were 2 goals down. we all play with injuries, so your 3 who ended up playing "so injured and high on the painkillers" couldnt of been that sore if they r running around for 90 mins. Anyway it was good game and very entertaining and both teams had chances to win so draw probably a fair result. The ref yet again made a couple of joker decisions. Disallowed a westlakes goal that i thought was fair from where i was but the linesman called it for offside. Then gave westlakes a pen when our defender hit the ball with his shoulder. But this football and just added to the excitement. good times yewwwwQuote:
Originally Posted by pv4
The linesman got mixed up with number 4 and 40, that was our number 4s 1st yellow.
A game that unsurprisingly had everything at Connolly Park. A real coach killer! My view on a couple of issues of importance, some mentioned above, some not.
The refereeing overall was pretty decent I thought. Yes, the Westlakes headed non-goal seemed legit with a good finish getting in front of his marker. Mistake that the far linesman apparently has put his hand up for. The linesman flagging for handball on the near side that resulted in the Westlakes penalty was a correct decision. The player in question didn't say a lot, with the coach on several occasions arguing "but it hit him on the arm". I'll leave it at that.
It was pretty easy to determine Westlakes were understrength, especially if blokes had backed up as we're hearing. There was a bloke in their backline who appeared totally out of his depth, however if he was one of the players who'd backed up then fair play to him. Others looked lethargic and the usual passing was not there for most parts. Olympic had injuries too, most notable their captain on one leg and played out of position which actually further exposed him.
If you'd turned up on full time then you'd have sworn Olympic had won. Could be seen as a tad over the top but you cannot deny it was a gutsy effort to equalise with 10 men (although they must surely be used to playing a man down) and coming away with a point when it seemed as though they'd get nothing. Needs to be noted that a few within seemed a little embarrassed at how others were celebrating.
On another note - the Olympic striker needs to be watched as is lightning, direct and can play. It's all good being quick but if you're useless then your better of on the wing in league. That bloke is quality for this division and relishes running at tired players late in a game - just ask Charlestown, Westlakes and definitely Merewether presumably amongst others. Their defence though is shambolic at best having conceded almost 30. Lucky they can score!
There was a period in the second half when I think the scores were tied that Olympic had their foot on the throat of Westlakes, hitting the woodwork and missing a few chances. If we hadn't noticed, their bench was insistent on telling anyone that would listen how dominant they were. Moments later a ball came across their own 6 yard box only for the wide Westlakes player to miss an empty net with minimal pressure. Funny enough we couldn't hear a murmur then haha
Play of the day must have been Big Dunc, obviously straight from the PS3, hitting the R1 button and rolling the last two Olympic defenders in one go who had committed to the ball coming into his feet. He then took a touch and toe poked past the 'keeper from outside the 18, catching him a little by surprise I think. The linesman laughed at appeals for offside and rightly so. Probably summarises the game in that one play actually.
For the defensive disaster that this game was, it's done nothing to dent my opinion of how dangerous Westlakes are, especially if they were that understrength. Don't be discarding Olympic either, there are a few really good players in that side and if can make a few changes and sort out defence then not only could they make the semis, but they could threaten once there.
A perfect night for neutrals who made the trip, certainly our contingent from Jeso who wanted a draw. "A 4-4 draw with Olympic red card" was even tipped! Thanks for the show, couldn't buy that entertainment. Well done both clubs.