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A 1000 words to perfectly describe 5 years ..... :thumbsup:
Ahhhh I wouldn't. Alivodic is twice the player Carney is and doesn't come with any baggageQuote:
Originally Posted by Hunter403
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football...-1227362006629
Tinks threatens FFA..... Saying this could get ugly
Bah, it's all hot air. I cannot see the ffa allowing a club to be placed into administration without the ability to take the license back. Tinks, please just shut the **** up and piss off already.
I just saw GVE out at the Football 5's at Speers Point tonight.
i swear he had his resume tucked under his arm.
Cheers mateQuote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Thanks to everyone for the kind words
Have blasted it out on twitter to a bunch of football & local media types
The offer was in excess of $3 million
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/artic...over-talks-ffa
nice post furns but can you now can my damn table together, thnx :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by furns
Got to love the FFA's luck here.
Tinkler had of sold to Dundee group and the money goes in Tinker's pocket.
Stripping him of the licence and they can then hock it to Dundee group. Might get themselves 2-3million for **** all effort
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Originally Posted by plague
Brisvegas ?.
Wouldnt be suprised to see the sale go through in the next fortnight to be honest. Not sure weather they will shop us around to get top dollar, or hock us off to first suitable option
then straight to the Sydney's banks accounts #24hrcynicQuote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Statement from Stephen Thompson to Dundee United fans, Hot aff the press.........
Chairman’s Statement
May 20, 2015
“It’s not unusual for football club board members to have other business interests and I’m no different. There are confidentiality agreements in place regarding the situation in Australia that stop me going into further detail but I want to make it clear that my priority first and foremost is to Dundee United as Chairman and a supporter of the Club.
“The Board and I remain focused on matters here and are supporting the management team in getting our young squad ready for next season.
“Results haven’t gone our way of late but I’ve had positive meetings with Jackie in recent days about where we are and where we’re going and he has the full support of the board in building on the job he started.
“United has a five-year strategy covering football, finance and community; we’re almost two years through it and are already ahead of schedule.
“Of course we’ve lost good players along the way but we’re developing and bringing in new ones as well as trying to retain others. We’ve just secured Seán Dillon’s commitment to the Club and we’ve also offered contract extensions to Nadir Çiftçi and John Souttar.
“This club is a place top young managers are motivated to develop top young talent. That means at times we’ll be a springboard for some, which is fine if we’re achieving on the pitch and bringing in new talent like Justin Johnson, our most recent young signing.
“In recent years we’ve reached back-to-back cup finals, won the Scottish Cup for only the second time in our history, enjoyed eight consecutive top six finishes and delivered European qualification, all while becoming one of the country’s most prolific producers of home grown talent. That’s the standard we have at United and it’s about not just maintaining that but improving upon it.
“Off the pitch we have obliterated bank debt and reduced overall debt, and while the process doesn’t always win you popularity contests, in the cold light of day it’s the right thing to do for our club. As a family club at the heart of a community, we’re proud of the fact our business is robust and has paid every penny in the pound to any creditor due it, particularly through times when not every club has been able to.
“In football circles United is held up as a model club in terms of its strategy of developing talent and selling on at profit, and I for one stand by any strategy which is designed to get a club in the best shape possible off the pitch so it can achieve sustainable success on it.
“Of course that can mean some pain along the way but it’s for the long-term good of the Club and that’s what all fans want.
“Whether or not I pursue opportunities in Australia, I clearly have a major emotional tie here which my sister Justine shares with me as a board member and we are fortunate to have a Board made up of people of varying skill sets who have the best interests of Dundee United at heart and the expertise to take the Club forward.“
So I take it now that we are run by the FFA we can have a pyro party and rip flares non stop at games now like the RBB did when FFA owned WSW?? :rof:
I take it they don't fine themselves
Maybe we'll get a fair deal off the ref's now because we're all employed by the same organisation.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
**** yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
We should insist on getting all the dodgy reffing going our way this season to be confined to the 3 games V the Gypos.
Imagine the burn from them if we win and they are robbed by the ref :lulzturtle:
While it's great to see the FFA finally stepping in and appearing the savior for us I think we need to exercise an degree of caution.
Let's not forget, the FFA brought us Tinkler in the first place. This time I hope they are improving their due diligence on the consortium or the individual who will become the new owner. Not only that the new entity, whether they retain the Jets name or not, will have a massive job to re-engage with the community. But they've started by firstly removing Tinkler, and will continue by removing Stubbins. This will also re-engage the business community too as I've heard there are a lot of local businesses who want to join the club but refused to deal with HSG.
But lets not be naïve to think Tinkler will go quietly. While he's put millions into the club, he would want at least some return on his investment. I know I would. This is far from over.
There is a massive task which will start today to look at retaining employees, players and appointing coaching staff. Not only that, we've got half a squad to sign.
So while yesterday was the best day we've had in years, there's still something nagging away at me.
it would just be a tax deduction, we'd be doing them a favour :rof:Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
We should demand seats on the hills to look more like Para stadium :lulzturtle:Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
As I said to you yesterday I fully expect Tinkler to fight back. He may well be an arrogant **** but he isn't stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
A high level game of politics is being played and I fail to see that it is fully over. Pawns have been put in place for months and I feel it is a case of FFA having Tinkler at Check at present
Expect at some stage today Tinkler to approach some court and get some injunction out on the FFA and bring this to a legal battle dragging on in the courts for a lot longer
Yesterday was like Star Wars A New Hope
Today I see it as The Empire Strikes Back
Can't wait for The Return of the Griffo
I think this is the next move too.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Here we go.Quote:
NATHAN Tinkler is not done fighting just yet, accusing the FFA of being “morally bankrupt” for taking back his A-League licence and warning they may have taken the first step towards folding their own competition.
Just hours after the FFA announced it was taking over the debt-riddled Newcastle Jets and stripping Tinkler of ownership of the club, the former billionaire hinted at potential legal action saying: “This could get ugly.”
“They have proven just how selfish they are with their actions today,” Tinkler told The Daily Telegraph.
They depend on the A-League owners to subsidise their game but it is just not a sustainable model.
“This is not over yet. I’ve got a buyer (Scottish club Dundee United) there that they are engaging with and they are effectively trying to pinch that buyer from me.
“I’ve engaged with that buyer to sell the club and that is still what I intend on doing.”
Asked how he would go about that given he no longer owns the licence, Tinkler said:
“That’s what we are going to have the blue with the FFA about.
“The way it’s going, they might have a few more of these licences in their lap in the next couple of months.
“They might have just taken the first step to folding their own competition.”
Earlier on Wednesday, Tinkler put the Jets into voluntary administration with debts of $2.7 million.
He claimed a sale to Dundee United for just under $5 million was “imminent” and wanted the FFA to give him the time to get the sale across the line.
But with the monthly wages of players and staff that were due last Friday still unpaid, the FFA acted.
Tinkler maintains his priority is to see all the club’s creditors paid out in full and wants the opportunity to ensure that happens.
He hopes a meeting between the FFA, representatives from Dundee United and the administrator can clear things up.
“I think I have got good legal grounds to fight this,” he said.
“I think the FFA’s actions are immoral and unethical. In good faith, I let them talk to the party who wants to buy the club and this is how they have reacted.
“I’ve got my legal advice but I will just sit on that for now. We’ll go with the buyer to see the FFA to see if some common sense can prevail.
“I’ve been in contact with the FFA all day. I didn’t hide from these actions. It wasn’t a surprise to them because I told them what I was going to do.”
Tinkler says the FFA is playing with fire in their treatment of him.
“The FFA have set the template here of ripping off owners and thinking it’s okay, ”he said.
“ They peg us guys to put our hard-earned in and we do and then they want to rip it from you and basically, they are saying that all A-League licences are worth nothing.
“What are we as owners doing this for? The FFA is saying we don’t have anything of value and they are taking steps to try and prove that. Are they going to take the licence off Brisbane next? Are they going to take the licence off Perth or Central Coast next?
“All those guys are in the gun sights of the FFA because we have been stamping our feet saying there has to be change because it is just not sustainable.
“Mark my words. If they are not careful and continue to treat the owners like they are, there won’t be a competition full-stop.”
TINKLER’S TURBULENT TIME
September 2010: Purchased the Newcastle Jets from Con Constantine.
October 2010: Membership of the club increased to over 10,000.
October 2010: Extended his ownership of the club until 2020.
October 2011: Terminated the contract of coach Branko Culina.
April 2012: Attempted to hand the Jets’ A-League licence back to FFA, but was told he would be in breach of contract. He retained ownership.
May 2014: Appointed Phil Stubbins as coach on a two-year contract.
February 2015: Settled a series of outstanding debts to a variety of organisations.
April 2015: Attended his first home game at Hunter Stadium and pledged his long term commitment to the Jets.
May 2015: Failed to pay employees wages for the third time in four months and placed the club into voluntary administration.
The Response from Tinkler
More lies, the big man is done.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Frank has all his ducks lined up and the big man is clutching at straws, if he does pursue this case he'll just be throwing more money away.
Absolutely...Tinks is just blowing more hot air (just as he has for the past 6 months).
Just as Polenz had a free pass to hack all and sundry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
"Player contracts for next season and beyond will be transferred over to the new entity.
However, coaching and administration staff will have their positions reviewed"
Surely that means no stubbins!!
So what happens to the 2 years outstanding superannuation if the FFA are only committed to paying last months wages? Now that Thompson has confirmed that there is an offer on the table since Friday that would enable everyone to be paid what they are owed then why won't the FFA allow the sale to go through?
My first thoughts was that Tinks is full of shit and there is no offer. Now that its confirmed surely all the FFA have to do commit to their due diligence on the potential new owners. Any outcome that screws over players, staff and local business is not right
I would surmise that paying off the outstanding debts will be included in the purchase price if a deal is to be done imminently.Quote:
Originally Posted by borat
So why don't they say that? You are assuming that this is an honourable organisation that is bound to do the right thing. Tinker is a scumbag that wasn't to be trusted but the FFA are not much better.Quote:
Originally Posted by furns
All they have to say is that any future licence fee taken will be used to paying the outstanding debts owed. But all they have said is that in a sign of good faith the would pay the last months wages. Why?
Don't count your chickens he has everything covered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Premy
Tinkler yesterday placed the club in administration
3 Hours later the FFA seized an asset(licence) and is preventing him from trading out of it/settling his debts by selling it.
Lets not even bother factoring in the implications of stripping a company of assets when not legally entitled as the company is in administration.
I don't know enough on the law in that regard but Tinkler does have his ducks also lined up and he does have a point about them denying him opportunity to sell.
Forget your personal opinion on Tinkler
FFA have made some big decisions and have opened themselves up to court room scrutiny as to the legalities of the finer details of HAL Franchises arrangements.
The big loser with Court action here is FFA getting their private dirty laundry aired publically.
Not Tinkler. He couldn't give a ****
Yup totally agree. The FFA actively courted Tinkler to get him on board, then did everything they could to keep him when he wanted to walk. Then sit back and allow 2.7milliion in debt to be accumulated and the team run into the ground. Yet can somehow try and claim a moral high ground. Please.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
I think you lot are underestimating how good Gallop is.
Bloke is a dead set shark in the big boys rooms by all accounts.
He'll make Tinks cry.
Yep but Gallop will be playing the cards dealt by Buckley. Good luck with that
I'll have Gallop and Uncle Frank, you can have Tinks and Lionel Hutz.Quote:
Originally Posted by borat
May the best team win.
Not to mention the other aspect they charge him for licence and then don't allow him to be reimbursed for its sale and the FFA keep the profit.Quote:
Originally Posted by borat
Add in the complexities involved with conflicts of interest if Tinkler has been courting Thompson and FFA have also been courting Thompson to take over on the sly. Don't look really good in court when the FFA stand to profit to the tune of several million $$$
Uncle Frank didn't get to where he is by getting taken for a ride by cashed up bogans
Tinkles got where he is by trying to screw over the big boys and coming away second best
Tinkler is gone. It is not so much now about who wins and losesQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
The issue now is how much damage he can do in the mean time to the FFA and Jets and also the finer points of the FFA's Licensing system and how that will be effected long term
Tinkler may well win a legal case. That is irrelevant really
Won't stop him being gone from our club but he can stand to financially profit and cause massive damage to the FFA in embarrassment and future income loss and also effect the Jets moving forward etc
That are the issues
Phill 100% committed to Jets!!!!.... Check twitter for source........FFS, never want to see him again.....
Of course his legal team will be saying you have a chance to win a legal case, they will be looking at the dollar signs of a case that stretches years (they will extract money out of him some how)
and if he cant afford the legal fight even better
id imagine those club owners agreements with the FFA would be pretty tight and tinkler has had several breaches already I think the FFA will say bring it on buddy
Pretty sure the same was said about Con and Fat Clive.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS