Prior to this off season.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftrightout
1.Zads
2.Roundabout
3.Heskey (After signing griff, prior to losing taggs)
Present
1.Gallagher (Hope he never gets a chance to prove me wrong)
2.Gallaway
3.Virgilli/goodwin
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Prior to this off season.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftrightout
1.Zads
2.Roundabout
3.Heskey (After signing griff, prior to losing taggs)
Present
1.Gallagher (Hope he never gets a chance to prove me wrong)
2.Gallaway
3.Virgilli/goodwin
1.VirgilliQuote:
Originally Posted by Pico
2.Galloway
3.Pepper
4.Ox
we shouldn't sign squaddies. we should sign players who improve our squad who are better than those we have or replace those key ones that less. Otherwise bring through youth who don't need to fit in, already know the club and backroom staff and allow better development for the players of the region
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Originally Posted by Pico
I don't think Gallaway is starting standard as a left back... maybe if he was on the side where crossing with his preferred foot was easier, he might be less awful going forward. I think he is pretty good when defending and playing in a system that suits his abilities... and I would keep him. Might turn out that crossing from the other side turns him into the leagues best attacking fullback (:lulz:). Okay, maybe not.Quote:
Originally Posted by lil_masi
If we are talking about booting people out, you have to factor in who would replace them as well. Given that Virgili is local, likely not on massive coin and seems content being nothing more than a squad player used as an impact sub, why would you get rid of him? He is the exact kind of player that the club should be using for depth for a few seasons... kind of like keeping KB around or using Cowburn as 4th choice CB. I also don't get the Goodwin hate... in his two seasons here, he has shown more end product than Virgili in his 4 years. Maybe under a coach who isn't a complete dick, he might be back on the fringe of the Socceroos and off to Reading in the summer.
I am not sure what Oxborrow offers apart from a giraffe like neck and monstrous Adams Apple.
Cooper, Gallagher and OxborrowQuote:
Originally Posted by leftrightout
As said above, no reason to get rid of players when the reason the reason they haven't been performing is due to them playing out of position. Gallaway and Pepper could actually be worthwhile players if they were playing in their preferred position.
Both Virgili and Goodwin's biggest flaw is consistency. Both have shown on good days they can be quality players, they just can't keep it up on a game-to-game basis. Once they sort that out Goowin could go back to being labeled as a future socceroo and potentially go off to Reading and Virgili could go back to potentially going over to Celtic.
Virgilli - don't see the potential he's fast but so very frustrating when its time to do something, would much rather KB getting a 1 year contract over extending his.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
Goodwin - haven't been impressed by his attitude, nor his output, also concerned that we gave him a 2 year extension based on his output. Hope to be proven wrong this season, but I don't think he'll be a starting player and if that happens I don't think he'll respond well to that, time will tell I do hope I'm wrong though.
I think Gallaway and Goodwin are A-league standard. The problem is fitting them into a team that also contains Carney.
Gallaway is superior defensively to Goodwin, and Goodwin is well ahead of Gallaway when it comes to scoring or creating chances.
Goodwin, is not going to be chosen ahead of Carney as a left sided midfielder and it would be foolish to play him as a left back when Gallaway is a better defender.
Unfortunately for Goodwin, he either has to become a more defensive type player and spend less time developing his attacking game, or he can try and progress his attacking style with very little if any game time.
I like Goodwin and wouldn't like to see him go but for his career a move to where he gets more game time in his preferred position might be what's best for him. [Assuming he prefers to play a more attacking role]
I don't think Gallaway has the potential to be as good as Goodwin but as a dependable no frills left back he's already proven - regardless of what many say.
what do u see in Gallaway. He is slow, gets caught out of position, can't mark, can't cross. His only strengths are his workrate and tacklingQuote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
I would hope that being on his preferred side would improve his crossing. I also think with a good coach backing him he shouldn't have as big of a problem in terms of positioning and marking players. He is also only 22, so there is time for him to work on these mistakes and become a solid player that is probably pretty cheapQuote:
Originally Posted by joel31
Galloway is many negative things as a footballer but he isn't slow. He would be up there with the quickest in the club, if not the quickestQuote:
Originally Posted by joel31
Gallaway isnt slow.
Per mertesaker is slow.
See nothing in Gallaway and should be sent home on the first bus back to Coffs.
somehow this log has a WC medal. i cant believe this. (good topic, which dud players have a one of these)Quote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
Oh, he's no dud.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk
Great positional play (unless playing a high line) and timing of tackles is impeccable.
Just very slow, would beat a mark truck over 30 yards from a standing start.
I'd love to see the stats of which side leaked the most goals last year. I reckon it would be the right side by a mile. I think the main problem for Gallaway is that he plays football at a time when the internet is full of angry people with nothing better to do. He isn't anywhere near the worst defender in the A league.
I love when someone posts that he is slow and then the next bloke says that his only redeeming factor is his speed. He is a better defender than the other young players on our team, unfortunately he doesn't offer much in assists because his crosses aren't on target and he lacks the ability to beat a player one-on-one.. He has plenty of stamina, enough speed, can stand a player up when needed and with a solid back four and defensive mid will be more than good enough to fill a spot that i don't think Carney or Goodwin will be able to fill. Neither track back and aren't great one-on-one defenders.
Preparing for the angerz!
I still maintain that gallaway would be a serviceable right back given that is supposedly his preferred peg. I don't see how he is slow at all, I can think of plenty of times he has made great ground to catch wingers or has made bursting attacking runs only to whip it out for a goal kick.
Gallaway is the perfect back up wide defender. He does a decent job for not alot of money.
He doesnt offer that go forward as much but if he had everything that people complain about he wouldnt be a back up on a low wage.
He can come in for a week or two here and there and do the job required. He should not be relied on to do the job for a full season though
I think that might be the problem though... he is expected to be the starting left back and looking at our recruitment, we haven't gone out and picked up anyone that can fulfill that role.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftrightout
Unless Carney or Goodwin is pushed back there, Gallaway appears to be our first choice left back.
Haven't got that info but I'll record it this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
Maybe I'll find some time to ahve a look.
I see a professional footballer that has played more A-league games than the combined total of everyone else in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by joel31
You simply don't get as much game time as he has unless you are of an acceptable level.
Unfortunately, there is probably more hate for Jets players on this forum than there would be on the Mariners forum.
It must be difficult for players to have to endure this sort of shit from there own fans - especially during games.
Well it's good motivation to improve isn't it. Maybe working twice as hard on the skills you need is the answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
Remember the shit that got pilled on Scott Neville. At the beginning of last year he came out on fire. People changed their tune pretty quickly. Neville said he worked really hard to start the season well. He deserves recognition for that.
So what does this tell us? That people shouldn't criticise? Or that they are just pointing out obvious flaws that need to be fixed in some way?
The Jets crowd is pretty football savvy. It's a two edged sword.
WRT Gallaway:
He's defensively solid. I don't see him being slow like Joel said - he's actually quite athletic, I'd guess one of our fitter players. I also have a fair amount of faith in his ability to win defensive headers and generally defending.
His downfalls are his positioning and his ability on the ball and just generally going forward.
He's a great backup to have IMO, but when he starts I cringe.
Yeah, this sums up my views on him too..Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
Particularly the positioning. Way too many times have I been screaming at the TV or frothing on the hill when I see a replay of the opposition scoring and Gallaway nowhere near his man..
Isnt that one of the keys for a defender, positioning?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bon
Hahahah definitely..Quote:
Originally Posted by lil_masi
I was agreeing with what pv4 was saying though, that I see him as a handy backup.
Me agree for the most part. Just look at how Birraz went from the messiah to a very naughty boy in the eyes of many. We don't let status and ceremony affect our summation of form and performance - with the glaring exception of the ridiculous vitriol RE: BKQuote:
Originally Posted by hausmann
everyone on here needs (at least) one whipping boy. gallaway had an embarrassing debut 4 years ago and people can't let it go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
sure he's not going to propel us to higher heights but he's been far from our worse player and is a very handy guy to have in the squad.
Who is your whipping boy, parksey?Quote:
Originally Posted by parksey
yo haussman is this the same jets crowd that wildly cheered michael bridges every time he got on the field?
Usually au_revoir at the Tenzo..Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
david warnerQuote:
Originally Posted by pv4
I hate Joel.
chianese
So basically sack the coaching staff and fill the stadiums with people that have never played any sport professionally randomly yelling abuse at players.Quote:
Originally Posted by hausmann
It's working a treat for Sydney FC no doubt.
ljuboQuote:
Originally Posted by pv4
Before writing them off, its interesting to think about why they were cheering.Quote:
Originally Posted by q-money
I believe its because he showed some of the qualities that you want in a player - desire to succeed, willing to be creative in the front third, good spokesperson for the club. Sure, he failed to deliver the goods except for the final shot in his career but I think they were happy that he tried to show those attributes when the rest of the team was playing some pretty ordinary football. It's all relative, would they have cheered for him as much if the rest of the team were on fire? Probably not. It was out of hope more than anything.
Just because the fans in the crowd want to see these attributes on the field doesn't make them stupid. In fact, it might actually give the coaches an indication of what type of football people like to watch.
I'm sorry hausmann, but there is too much commen sense in this..Quote:
Originally Posted by hausmann
Please desist from any more..
Great post hausmann
No, not yelling abuse directly at players, more the common groan when he loses possession or general opinion that he is not up to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
It's called common sense. The opinions of ordinary people aren't necessarily wrong, that's why they construct juries with 12 ordinary people in matters that are as serious as life and death. And yes, a team has to be guided by a professional coach, but ordinary people can give voice when they think the professional coach is making the wrong decisions. It would be highly arrogant to ignore such data or to suggest that the crowd is misguided just because they have never played professional sports. Some of these people have been watching professional sport for most of their lives and may have picked up a thing or two.
"Listen to the fans and you'll be sitting with them in the stands" is one of the more arrogant things a coach could say.
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Originally Posted by hausmann
Agree - such a post has not place on this forumQuote:
Originally Posted by Bon
So that fringe Socceroos CM playing overseas at the moment that could be on his way to the Jets - Erik Paartalu.
As per the great Barry Toohey in today's Tele.