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It shouldn't have gotten to this point, but here we are. It won't change, zero chance.
Suns game for the final round is againt Westalkes which could possibly be their grand final to ensure stay up, so you can't be chopping and changing anymore.
I don't think a single club is happy to have just one leg, but it is what it is now.
Still no confirmation of which days the semi finals will be scheduled for and the GF venue..
No I don’t think the lower grades should be disregarded at all however why not revert the first grade competition back to two legs? And keep the lower grade fixtures as is? Yes I also acknowledge Loftys point about the relegation battle still potentially in play but if it’s also decided this weekend let’s have the two first grade semi final first legs played next Sunday!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jardelsimage
sorry but step back and think about what you just wrote....Quote:
Originally Posted by Zonal Marking
so lets have the 1st grade sides start there semi finals series without the back and support up of there lower grades as they will be off playing somewhere else???? because there finals game dosent start for another week.....
this is probably the worst(i was going to say dumbest, but i thought i offend someone) idea i have ever seen put on this forum, logistically impossible 1st off to start with, i dont think i have to continue.
You do realise that during a finals series there are often lower grades who play that same weekend but on a different day to first grade? I suggested Sunday because I assumed by the Saturday all lower grade fixtures would have had the chance to be wrapped up. It’s a unique season and I’ve put forward a unique idea. Of course there could be possible flaws but that’s the whole point of a forum to discuss these things. No need for you to ride in on your high horse and dismiss it while insulting me in the process.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jardelsimage
Minor major is the best and fairest semi final contest. for 3rd or fourth to win they need to beat the other 3 teams. End of.
I agree It rewards the teams that finish 1st and 2nd. Currently there is no difference in finishing 1st or 4thQuote:
Originally Posted by terry
On the subject of lower grades....the premier grade 3rd Grade looks so damn tight in the race for finals
Mayfield & Azzurri sitting 5th & 6th on 26 points behind Suns & Cookers in 3rd & 4th on 28pts. Mayfield 2 games in hand to Azzurri's 3 (of which they are Mayfield, Westlake & Swansea), Cookers play Suns to decide which of them will play finals as well.
The closeness of this comp is highlighted every year. There's next to no reward for finishing first or second, compared to those who might scrape in for fourth. Although with one leg this year it will mean only first and second will get a home semi, it's still just one game of football. No second chances.
I don't know if it will change, but it's definitely something that should be discussed at seasons end, in preparation for next season and beyond.
Furthermore, it would bring back a fairer playing field for the lower grades. Currently it all just goes off first grade, so home and away legs are irrelevant. Sometimes they are in reverse due to finishing positions of other grades, which is just confusing. Going to minor/major finals series again makes it a lot more rewarding for finishing top 2.
Yeh realize that, been in a few over the years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zonal Marking
yep different days, different grounds etc, etc.
The idea your saying is basically play 1st as our normal final series, then play lower grades as a different type of final series, is that an insult to the lower graders?
look no insult
Real good point Lofty. In the lower grades there is absolutely no advantage cause you may not even play a home game. That’s why 1v2 and 3v4 rewards the lower grades moreQuote:
Originally Posted by Lofty
Maybe I’m reading this wrong but since the final series is 1v4 and 2v3…. How are 3rd and 4th getting rewarded except to have to verse the 2 best teams over the season?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hacker
Not going to lie Lofty we do plan to lose the our other 2 matches, just so when we beat you lads next weekend it means we avoid relegation 😇Quote:
Originally Posted by Lofty
A minor/major finals system gives the top two sides a second chance. In the current set up, one bad game and your whole season can disappear. There's obviously pros and cons for both options. But for a team that finishes 3rd or 4th really have to earn a spot in the GF.Quote:
Originally Posted by WWFC25
There's arguments for both for sure. I know that some people dislike the idea of winning the major and then having a week off, whereas some like that.
I just think especially for the lower grades that minor/major is a better set up.
Haha looking forward to it! Would be a great story is you boys did the Suns double. Not so good for us! ��Quote:
Originally Posted by WWFC25
How have you jumped to the conclusion that it is an insult to the lower grades? We’ve already determined there are too many remaining fixtures that will have an impact on the lower grades final standings. There is however a slight chance that first grades final standings will be set by Sunday evening and if plans were put in place I believe two first leg matches could be played next weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jardelsimage
Even if there are some flaws it’s not as far fetched an idea as you dramatically tried to make out. You have actually come out of this looking quite foolish to be honest.
As a matter of fact ignoring logistics, potential flaws etc i ask any committee members, managers or players on here. Hypothetically If you were offered the chance to proceed with the usual finals format but only for first grade (the other grades continue with 1 leg for this season) would you be on board with that? Like I said it is a hypothetical question and is assuming that it would work?
Was Mayfield playing mid week
would you like Big Rus's number and you can convince him your idea is better than his....and i've around long enough to bounce out the other side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zonal Marking
last one, so who is your club or do you like to keep it a secret.....you say your not the Bay, so???
I’m sure I can find a contact number for NF on my own just fine thanks. I also think they deserve a bit of credit for making the early call to throw in an extra washout weekend so quite a lot of clubs including my own can get all their catch up matchs in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jardelsimage
As for my club let’s just say that first grade probably won’t be playing finals football but the lower grades are very much alive. You’re the most intelligent person on this forum so I’m sure you can narrow it down from there. Also makes your comment about the lower grades feeling disrespected if only the FG finals format changes look like absolute nonsense.
100% agree with this. We get too hung up on chopping and changing things to make it fair but ultimately two legs home and away is a dead simple and fair way to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by WWFC25
Slipping into fourth, you then have to verse the top team twice. If you can be the best team over two legs, you deserve to be there.
It's tricky with ZPL because there is no promotion so the final series is a bit more important than for the lower zone league competitions so I do understand the desire to craft the finals in a way to make it more "fair" but I still think home/away leg semi finals makes the most sense.