Okay, it's obviously not common sense because the point I was making was that Youngy is wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
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Okay, it's obviously not common sense because the point I was making was that Youngy is wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Maybe you should start a #youngyout hashtag.Quote:
Originally Posted by hausmann
The blokes been back 1 day and he is already wrong. FFS:roflz:Quote:
Originally Posted by hausmann
you cant have a common sense clause though..... hard to defibne common sense.
Plauge is right, the club shouldnt have to write these things down.
But Haussman is right too. they do need to, to hold players to account, to let them know whats expected, to guide decisions made by the board (hahaha) and underlying set or core values laid out for all to see, and discussions on how these core values are reflected in the day to day running of the club are needed to show the people working for the club whats expected and how to behave.
To say they should just know as its common sense is too simplistic.
"work ethic" isnt enough if it was, I should get startm, I'd try real hard.
Sorry, I kind of stopped reading after this bit.......Quote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
But I'd take a raging egomaniac who wins over a humble loser any day.
and I reckon a massive percentage of world class athletes (and people in general at the top of their profession) are raging egomaniacs as opposed to humble 'good ole boys'.
Agree fullyQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
Would prefer Suarez Berisha like Nutter who knows how to win and gets the job done rather than some great guy who tries hard but always comes second.
The rest of the argument is complete hypothetical horseshit anyway. Until the club is community owned and the fans decide the direction values are irrelevant when some billionaire owns the club and can do as he pleases
Maybe so. But maybe the owner might want the club to be financially viable operation and for that the happen the club needs to community to engage with it and feel it represents them enough to pay to come watch games and buy shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Both you and Plague say the same thing. You combine arrogant and winner and contrast that against humble and loser. But I was saying that the club should aim to be humble and winner (ie. should have ambition).Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
The two aren't mutually exclusive. And then there is arrogance (when someone feels they are a better person than others) and then there is confidence (something which a striker genuinely needs) but can still be a nice guy when you talk to them. I've always found Griffo to be confident rather than arrogant when I've talked to him in the past, but some will say he is arrogant. I get the same impression with Berisha, yes, extremely confident on the pitch but seems like a genuinely nice guy when interviewed.
Did anyone really go nuts over Taggart? I mean, he was our leading scorer last year. To me, he seemed a bit arrogant (don't know if he was or not) mainly due to the lack of emotion in his goal celebrations - it seemed to be all about him. He should have a fan club just like the Griff, but he doesn't. This tells you something about what people value. Cause Griff pumps his fist at the crowd and wants to celebrate with them when the team scores. Berisha is the same.
The whole values thing is not just about players anyway, it is about the coaching staff and admin people too. Anyone who has tried to talk to a few people in the admin and got the brush off will know what I mean.
i think we're just so used to loveable hard-trying losers we've forgotten what it's like to win, and have winners on the team.
on the tagz thing though, remember when he forced that own goal from pasfield (lol) and ran to the fence and da boyz knocked that shit down, that's what people want, winners. so much so they will knock fences down. go winners.
agree with the griff though, if you have a chat to the bloke he is actually a geninuely nice dude, but once he steps over the line it's winning time.
win
Nah.Quote:
Originally Posted by hausmann
I'm saying that in a results driven business, winning is the focus. If we can do that humbly then great. But I'm contending that most champions are anything but humble.
As a fan I'm quite comfortable in my own skin, I don't want Gary from marketing telling me what's up.
taagz was a winner and griff is to.
griff is to what?
Griff is to everything as fish is to bicycle.Quote:
Originally Posted by parksey
I thought hauss was suggesting that we as fans should be telling Gary from marketing what's up.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
I have said it before. I actually like losing now.
We are like the scottish. We are oppressed, down trodden, sods of people however if you were take the tyranny of England away we would be completely lost and not know what to do with ourselves as we quite like complaining.
I don't want to win. Comes with too much.... other stuff.
Like happiness? Joy? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackmac79
nah hope, expectation then great depth sof despair, unless ya win gf of courseQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
Newcastle are so much like Spurs, Gunners and Scousers..........It's always "Yeah aiming for the title.......then it's missing a few players due to injury............then it's well we are rebuilding........Next year will be our year"Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk
Repear for a few decades.
No we are not. Those clubs are capable of getting into the Top 6 in their League we ain'tQuote:
Originally Posted by Skirt Boy
We are more like Aston Villa Newcastle UK and Sunderland potential to do something but always achieve nothing
Wellington looking good against Westham, up 2-0, Burns playing a No9 roll doing a top job.
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/24...led-in/?cs=303
Hahaha oh my!
Just another day.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftrightout
Tinks has came through bigger issues than that one
Tinks should open his own insolvancy accounting firm, then the money would just go around and around in a cycle!
Good to see Griff played the full game, can't wait to see him tearing the league up again with a full pre-season.Quote:
Stubbins pleased with flash of Steele
By CRAIG KERRY
July 23, 2014, 10 p.m.
NEW attacking weapon Jonny Steele and the Newcastle Jets’ young talent on both sides impressed as the A-League team opened their pre-season trials with an intra-club match at Weston last night.
The senior Jets defeated their youth team 3-1 but it was under-20 talent that scored all four goals.
Former Western Sydney Wanderer Josh Barresi scored twice for the seniors in the first half, pouncing on a poor pass in defence in the 10th minute and tapping in a rebound off goalkeeper John Solari in the 33rd. Mitch Oxborrow made it 3-0 in the 38th minute of the 70-minute match after meeting a cross from fellow youth league player Brandon Lundy.
The Jets’ second team hit back inside a minute when Luke Willard made a similar run into the box and scored off a Nick Cowburn cross.
The trial was the first Jets game under new coach Phil Stubbins, who was pleased with the intense yet injury-free contest.
‘‘It was a really good hit-out for both teams and I think we’re going to see more of it,’’ Stubbins said. ‘‘It was a really good test. I think the 70 minutes was a good blow-out for us. There’s lots off things to work on.
‘‘To witness the introduction of playing three at the back, I think we can work on and build from. It was good.’’
Former Northern Ireland international Steele played the second half and was the main attraction, showing glimpses of his speed and skill down the left touch line.
‘‘He showed some flashes,’’ Stubbins said of Steele, who arrived in Newcastle only last weekend. ‘‘There’s a long way to go in terms of communication back and forth and what we actually want from him, but there’s some good performances there.
‘‘Mitch Oxborrow and Josh Barresi got the goals, two of the young ones, so that was good as well. All in all, I’d say it was a very good night.’’
Stubbins said Cowburn was ‘‘very good’’ in a impressive effort from the youth team.Joel Griffiths, Taylor Regan, Ben Kantarovski and Oxborrow played the entire match for the senior team.
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/24...steele/?cs=306
Bit of a concern that we still haven't got the VISA approved for Hannah, missing a lot of the pre-season.
Its a shame he isnt here yet but there is still just less than 3 months until the season starts. They were saying he should arrive in the next fortnight so he should get around 2 months of preseason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pico
not really worried about him not being present, heskey in his first season rocked up 2 weeks before the seasons started and was solid from the get go in his first season.
we probably have one of (if not) the longest off-season in world football. if he gets a solid 2 months him, i think he will be fine.
James Brown scored his first goal for City, they beat Bolton reserves 5-1.
No doubt he will bang them in for fun this season!
Thinking out loud, if we're going to play 3 at the back I'm a little concerned at the number of center backs we have. Seeing Stubbins praise Cowburn suggest he maybe used and I guess Kantarovski or Gallagher could fill in if needed but I feel another CB would be handy if we're going with 3 at the back.
We've already got 4 CB in the squadQuote:
Originally Posted by Premy
So say 1 CB is injured another gets suspended or 2 are injured at the same time?Quote:
Originally Posted by lil_masi
I'll get crucified for this but Gallaway was originally played as a CB too..Quote:
Originally Posted by Premy
3 at the back doesn't mean they are all going to be CB's. The back 3 needs to be mobile to cover the additional space and push forward when in possession. I would think that Neville and Kantarovski would spend time in the back 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Premy
This is the formation that was used by a number of teams at the world cup, Netherlands used it against Spain, and seems to be popular at the moment. Hoping its something Stubbins is tinkering with as an option rather than rusted on
Toronto FC 1 Tottenham 2. 2nd half . live on ESPN followed by live. Sporting Kansas City v Manchester CityQuote:
Originally Posted by Premy
Just cause they are saying 3 at the back doesn't mean it will be 3 defenders only. Wing Backs may spend most of the time actually covering the fullback role and basically 5 at the backQuote:
Originally Posted by borat
and then what if the sky fell in for real all at the same time and GAHHHHH IM OFF TO STOCK UP ON TINNED FOOD AND BOTTLED WATER!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Premy
Hit up PV4's mate Hutcho I hear his got a good stockpile.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Speaking of WLG what's the story with his avatar?
:lulzturtle:Quote:
Originally Posted by Premy
Good call. Member, update on the selection process please.Quote:
Originally Posted by Premy