If only their was a group with existing legitimacy with the club who would be able to step up and expand their connection between the club and fans through a potential ownership group.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
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If only their was a group with existing legitimacy with the club who would be able to step up and expand their connection between the club and fans through a potential ownership group.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
Who you have in mind???:rof:Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackmac79
I was not obvious enough....Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
I don't think they are interested.
De Boyun: He also said that the door was open for an element of community ownership.
Pretty obvious that the FFA really want the community to take on some ownership in the new Newcastle Jets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
The football community really needs to snap it's head out it's apathetic mentality and look at this as an opportunity to build a viable and sustainable club for decades to come and be part of a real football club not just a franchise.
We have a seemingly "re-active" cluture ingrained in our Novocastrian psyches where we wait for others to make things happen, rather than being pro-active and being masters of our own destiny.
I just hope there are enough like-minded people out there like the many on this forum who realise how it important having the community ownership as a key component of the new ownership structure.
lets not talk in riddles, it only muddies the waters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackmac79
In regards to community ownership the sub-committee are very interested. yes. but dont feel we have the skills, depth of knowledge, time and abilities to admister it.
Put your plans on paper, present it to us so those amongst he group who would like more details have them, and I'll argue for you to attend the next meeting with the club to speak to issue.
I've said before the "legitimacy" the sub-committee has within the club does not mean community ownership models have to be started by the committee.
The support for the concept is most likely needed, and it exists.
Dont let our reluctance to take on something we know little details about (probably ensuring its failure) be the reason not to start it yourself.
This being the most I have heard as response to what I had previously submitted through you, so it all well and good to say don't talk in riddles, however as I am in the dark myself, it is hard not to. Time is an issue. That will always be the case however when you are talking about fan ownership.Quote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
It takes more than an Individual. I have been down that road. It is far too easy to ignore for the club and the FFA. Now for the first time we have a group that would be hard to ignore, that has a foot in the door.
It involves fewer skills than you presume. And for those we don't have there are support structures in place.
The position of the committee within the club is the only thing that will ensure that this achieves its goal. The committee, it appears to me, have put their hand up to be our representatives. They have gained their position in the club, however they do not have a position within the fan base. Again another reason that the two things should not be separate. As far as I am aware there was only one influence of fan feedback for the selection of any member on the sub-committee (Excluding furns as the squadron rep), and that was me telling the club straight during the selection process that they would be daft not to select you.
A supporters Co-op, started through the committee, that in the future would elect their own representation instead of having the club select it for us, would see the legitimacy that you currently have expand to both sides of the equation.
Any form of fan ownership would need the goodwill of the FFA, seeing as the largest hurdle to any purchase would be the license fee, which the ffa would probaby have to waive as a goodwill gesture towards the community.
Don't take this as a slight against you gav, as I said I advocated for your selection, however I firmly believe that those that put their hand up for the committee have a responsibility to the rest of the supporter base to be more than they currently are.
Firstly, I want the same overall goal as I believe you do - and that's a completive and successful Newcastle Jets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackmac79
I may be incorrect, but I interpret your post as you wanting the FFA to take the club down the lines of full community ownership. I didn't take that from what De Bohun reportedly said yesterday. I interpreted the word "element of community ownership" as being "part" ownership or a partial stake in the operation of the club.
At the moment, I agree with GazFish in so much as the skills required are unknown because the proposed models haven't been presented - which may change following next Thursday's meeting because some proposed structure may come forward.
You correctly point out the committee haven't been elected by the members. This hasn't been lost on us and has made up part of the considerations to the committees overall stance to support the concept of community ownership of the club. As for trying to connect with the fan base, this is again something that isn't lost on us and not for a lack of trying behind the scenes to get a level of engagement happening. Hopefully more will come from it soon.
What I don't understand is the relevance to the discussion of individuals who may not have received support from the members or fan base to their sub-committee appointment to the argument of the members forum or community ownership.
You say we have a responsibility to do more than what we are currently doing. My response, which is open to everyone, is:
* What do you think we are currently doing?
* What do you think we could be doing better? And
* What do you see as our role within the club? (Because how members/fans see our role and what the club see as our role may be different which is going to cause conflict).
For the record, there are many conversations going on between all committee members and the club on a regular basis, not simply at scheduled meetings.
You're not in the dark.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackmac79
There's been no change from when I sent you text explaining what I've outlined above.
I understand it takes more than an individual, but as I've said before those on the committee don't feel that have the skills, depth of knowledge or time to commit to such an undertaking, but in Principle the group support the idea of community ownership. It's been advocated for.
If you want those wishing the sub-committee to pick up this ball and run with it, we need more details, if there's less work than we presume, educate us as to the processes involved so a moe informed decision can be made.
Agin though, I emphasize my strong belief that such a concept need not be born of the committee, if it were to start outside of the committee and be endorsed by the committee the club would listen. I've no doubt of that.
We have spoken briefly about committee structures and elected representatives etc but more pressing issues and the uncertainty caused have seen other things take precedence.
If you'd like to come to the next meeting and speak to the issue I'm more than happy to strongly request you be there.
Anybody else think the announcement of new manager will be delayed until after next Thursday so we don't all bleat on about how disappointing it is at this forum??
As opposed to now where we have the opportunity to moan that the ****s at the FFA are ****ing us over by dragging their finger with procrastination in not announcing the manager so we can actually get in the market for players??Quote:
Originally Posted by WolfMan
Damned if they do damned if they don't
Member, do you have a banner ready for all Foz members to assemble under?
Only have one. 5Metres Long and it contains 4 words that I believe in and that the fools running our club meed to actionQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
Bring back the Griff?Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
You the ****ing manQuote:
Originally Posted by WolfMan
Was supposed to be there tonight but illness prevented me. Can't get a decent feed on the live stream.
Can someone provide a post forum summary when they get a chance.
Was looking forward to meeting you angry b'stards tonight. Another time.
Jets twitter feed has been posting some quotes from it
No mention of Griff thus far??? Gaz whats the deal??
hi baz,
are we signing up this year now we've disposed of stubbins?
can't wait for pre-season :wub:
Hi Snake :blush::blush:Quote:
Originally Posted by snake
I'm going to actually give them my current bank deets so they can go back to taking my money
We're back babayyyyy
Port Mac surely back on again?