2025 Premier Youth Leagues

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Originally Posted by Taffy

You do, what happens when a coach comes in late November and says, "sorry my job has shifted me to Afternoon shift so I can no longer coach"? Now the club was correct in what they said, and should be given some leeway to correct, but should only give them a couple months and then downgrade them.

You actually need coaches for Bronze as well.

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Looking forward to seeing assessment of coaching, player welfare and communication with players playing a role in grading of grading of clubs into the future. A desktop system of grading is a good starting point but not a true reflection of programs and coaches.

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Originally Posted by Largesse

Looking forward to seeing assessment of coaching, player welfare and communication with players playing a role in grading of grading of clubs into the future. A desktop system of grading is a good starting point but not a true reflection of programs and coaches.

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In year 1 of JDL clubs were required to do 1 session per week out at the facility so the NNSW coaches could assess them and see they were following the curriculum.I thought it worked well and was of great value to a lot of coaches (plenty of other coaches didnt enjoy the feedback). By year 2 they relaxed the requirements and teams went about once a month.It didnt take long after that for certain clubs to stop going as they thought they had better systems in place (quality TD's and coaches).Once the size of the program kept getting bigger (more clubs/more age groups) it made it near impossible for NNSW to keep on top of what was happening.I assume this new system is more about clubs doing what they can at the front end to get as many coaches qualified for the roles and hopefully not need NNSW over their shoulders.Its obviously not perfect but points for trying.Instead of requiring everyone to have a C licence to get the highest status,maybe NNSW can run coaching seminars once a month or so for anyone keen on improving to sit down with them and work through stuff (similar to what they do with referees).Even take their individual teams out to the facility for a run through.Its clear theres not one strict way to get the best out of all this but as long as they are trying things its hard to argue with them.

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Originally Posted by sapdad

In year 1 of JDL clubs were required to do 1 session per week out at the facility so the NNSW coaches could assess them and see they were following the curriculum.I thought it worked well and was of great value to a lot of coaches (plenty of other coaches didnt enjoy the feedback). By year 2 they relaxed the requirements and teams went about once a month.It didnt take long after that for certain clubs to stop going as they thought they had better systems in place (quality TD's and coaches).Once the size of the program kept getting bigger (more clubs/more age groups) it made it near impossible for NNSW to keep on top of what was happening.I assume this new system is more about clubs doing what they can at the front end to get as many coaches qualified for the roles and hopefully not need NNSW over their shoulders.Its obviously not perfect but points for trying.Instead of requiring everyone to have a C licence to get the highest status,maybe NNSW can run coaching seminars once a month or so for anyone keen on improving to sit down with them and work through stuff (similar to what they do with referees).Even take their individual teams out to the facility for a run through.Its clear theres not one strict way to get the best out of all this but as long as they are trying things its hard to argue with them.

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Support from NNSW would be good, and with assessment against standards of actual coaching, not just licenses on paper would help with compliance.

There are a couple of silver clubs who are obviously well ticketed but from what I've seen and heard, not the best environment for development, compared to some Bronze rated.

I look forward to seeing it further develop.

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Originally Posted by Taffy

What club is advertising for coaches?

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No one answered this one.

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Originally Posted by sapdad

In year 1 of JDL clubs were required to do 1 session per week out at the facility so the NNSW coaches could assess them and see they were following the curriculum.I thought it worked well and was of great value to a lot of coaches (plenty of other coaches didnt enjoy the feedback). By year 2 they relaxed the requirements and teams went about once a month.It didnt take long after that for certain clubs to stop going as they thought they had better systems in place (quality TD's and coaches).Once the size of the program kept getting bigger (more clubs/more age groups) it made it near impossible for NNSW to keep on top of what was happening.I assume this new system is more about clubs doing what they can at the front end to get as many coaches qualified for the roles and hopefully not need NNSW over their shoulders.Its obviously not perfect but points for trying.Instead of requiring everyone to have a C licence to get the highest status,maybe NNSW can run coaching seminars once a month or so for anyone keen on improving to sit down with them and work through stuff (similar to what they do with referees).Even take their individual teams out to the facility for a run through.Its clear theres not one strict way to get the best out of all this but as long as they are trying things its hard to argue with them.

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Fair enough. NNSW are lazy. When it got too hard they threw it all in pretty quick. The C License should never be over $200. The only people to benefit from cheap coaching tickets are females who get could "scholarship" C license for free. Everyone else a can get fked apparently. It should be free for all current jdl/npl coaches. BTW The license does nothing to make a person a good coach.

Coaching kids is much different from coaching teens and adults. I havent seen many who can coach kids well over the last 20 years including JDL. Not the coaches fault, its just a specialty area. Those who work with kids on a daily basis seem to get the best out of the 8 to 13s. From 15s onwards i see many ex-players, from a higher level, do very well as coaches. Technically, Thailand is the most recent country to go past us. Are we getting it right? Not a chance.

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Originally Posted by The Hacker

No one answered this one.

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Nope and I couldn't find on any socials any of the silver clubs advertising for coaches. I did see a bronze club advertising, however, that was for PYL not JDL.

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Originally Posted by Eastwest

Fair enough. NNSW are lazy. When it got too hard they threw it all in pretty quick.

Coaching kids is much different from coaching teens and adults.I havent seen many who can coach kids well over the last 20 years including JDL.Not the coaches fault, its just a specialty area.Those who work with kids on a daily basis seem to get the best out of the 8 to 13s. From 15s onwards i see many ex-players, from a higher level, do very well as coaches.

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I agree with pretty much everything you said here.I would love to see the C licence be a little more accessible for coaches.Your point about the difference between JDL and youth/seniors is spot on.Its no conincidence that a lot of the better JDL coaches Ive encountered over my time have been school teachers and people with more management skills vs straight up soccer knowledge.Getting the best out of people and developing them is a massive skill that is all too often looked past.

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Originally Posted by Taffy

Nope and I couldn't find on any socials any of the silver clubs advertising for coaches. I did see a bronze club advertising, however, that was for PYL not JDL.

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The club I am aware of are internally advertising. I'm sure they don't want to let Northern know that the embellished their application. Especially after they sooked it up when they were graded as bronze & got upgraded.

Is it the club that Northern always give special treatment to?

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Originally Posted by sapdad

In year 1 of JDL clubs were required to do 1 session per week out at the facility so the NNSW coaches could assess them and see they were following the curriculum.I thought it worked well and was of great value to a lot of coaches (plenty of other coaches didnt enjoy the feedback). By year 2 they relaxed the requirements and teams went about once a month.It didnt take long after that for certain clubs to stop going as they thought they had better systems in place (quality TD's and coaches).Once the size of the program kept getting bigger (more clubs/more age groups) it made it near impossible for NNSW to keep on top of what was happening.I assume this new system is more about clubs doing what they can at the front end to get as many coaches qualified for the roles and hopefully not need NNSW over their shoulders.Its obviously not perfect but points for trying.Instead of requiring everyone to have a C licence to get the highest status,maybe NNSW can run coaching seminars once a month or so for anyone keen on improving to sit down with them and work through stuff (similar to what they do with referees).Even take their individual teams out to the facility for a run through.Its clear theres not one strict way to get the best out of all this but as long as they are trying things its hard to argue with them.

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From what I understand, they already have to do so many points worth of engagements with northern to maintain their licence level

Agree with whoever said it shouldn't cost more than $200...football is far too expensive and surely this expensive paywall keeps lots of people out who might make great coaches

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Originally Posted by northern_swan

The club I am aware of are internally advertising. I'm sure they don't want to let Northern know that the embellished their application. Especially after they sooked it up when they were graded as bronze & got upgraded.

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Edgeworth and Olympic? I know Olympic lost a few in the JDL space recently.

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Originally Posted by WOW2.0

From what I understand, they already have to do so many points worth of engagements with northern to maintain their licence level

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Thanks for the info.

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Originally Posted by Taffy

Is it the club that Northern always give special treatment to?

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Id guess clubs these days pay for coaches to.do the courses. Considering the commitment required from them during a longer and longer season I think that's bare minimum.

Also worth noting C License used to be ~$1500 and 4 or 5 weekends. Now it's <$1000 and 2 weekends + online pre work. So FA/NNSW are doing something to make it more accessible

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Originally Posted by Dreamtime Yowie

Edgeworth and Olympic? I know Olympic lost a few in the JDL space recently.

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Olympic are fine
Edit: to my knowledge

Olympic are also still rated as a bronze club so can't have been them who complained and then got pushed to silver.

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Originally Posted by AVB

Id guess clubs these days pay for coaches to.do the courses. Considering the commitment required from them during a longer and longer season I think that's bare minimum.

Also worth noting C License used to be ~$1500 and 4 or 5 weekends. Now it's <$1000 and 2 weekends + online pre work. So FA/NNSW are doing something to make it more accessible

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Some clubs contribute to coaching course registrations - often in the form of a percentage being refunded to the coach each year by the club each post qualification e.g. 33% each year over three years. My hunch is most don’t.

Id love to hear of any clubs paying for licences because they aren?t cheap and if you can’t
tick any inclusion boxes then its on you

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Originally Posted by TopCorner

Some clubs contribute to coaching course registrations - often in the form of a percentage being refunded to the coach each year by the club each post qualification e.g. 33% each year over three years. My hunch is most don?t.

Id love to hear of any clubs paying for licences because they aren?t cheap and if you can?t
tick any inclusion boxes then its on you

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I know from first hand experience that at Cooks Hill they cover cost of all coaches qualifications in full as soon as the qualification is awarded.

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Originally Posted by AVB

I know from first hand experience that at Cooks Hill they cover cost of all coaches qualifications in full as soon as the qualification is awarded.

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Then the coach leaves and the clubs out of pocket,

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Originally Posted by TopCorner

Some clubs contribute to coaching course registrations - often in the form of a percentage being refunded to the coach each year by the club each post qualification e.g. 33% each year over three years. My hunch is most don’t.

Id love to hear of any clubs paying for licences because they aren?t cheap and if you can’t
tick any inclusion boxes then its on you

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Maitland FC covered my C Licence and it was like you said a percentage over a certain amount of years, if I left before the agreed upon years then i didn?t get the remaining money paid. They also covered my first level of GK coaching and any other courses they feel or recommend we do. I pay for any extras that I want to do or need to do to get my hours up to keep my licence.

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Originally Posted by onlooker

Maitland FC covered my C Licence and it was like you said a percentage over a certain amount of years, if I left before the agreed upon years then i didn?t get the remaining money paid. They also covered my first level of GK coaching and any other courses they feel or recommend we do. I pay for any extras that I want to do or need to do to get my hours up to keep my licence.

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Great stuff well done

Maitland
Cooks Hill
Valentine