Nothing to do with the ref.... Leave him out of that... No excuse, we were shit and never deserved the 3 points... We all have to admit it, including players, coaches and management ... No excuse.. And dont even deserve one pointQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
I guess that's a matter of opinions. Firstly I agree we were terrible and were lucky to lead. It wasn't acceptable and is by far the worst performance we played all year. We didn't respond well and take advantage if the extra man and Miller needs to be responsible for that. Our passing lacked penetration. The mariners CBs sat on trifunovic and carney and followed them out when the ball came at them. Carney held the ball far too long and failed to release. Our passing was too slow to pass around them. We are a counter attacking team, so being asked to dominate and break a team down is not in our armour at the moment. That's the first time we've won the possession stat.Quote:
Originally Posted by lquiquer
We're seeing now the effect of our lack of depth. We missed kanga badly and Leo's ability to turn and run.
But, Griffiths Jones, in my opinion, Yi m lgave the Mariners a soft ride in the second half in particular. There were times he could have played advantage and he failed to. He left me shaking my head and along with us, I think he had a poor game and I stick by that.
Anyway, saw JVS on the way out and he said they don't think Leo has broken anything but he seemed pretty preoccupied.
Yeah apparently he is on a moon boot and further scans needed... At least sounds like no broken bone??!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
Damn. Still not sounding great.Quote:
Originally Posted by lquiquer
Still going to be without him for a number of weeks I reckon.
McGing now public enemy #1
I guess if we can take a positive...5 games undefeated against the scum
Nah no positive for me. Still very sour
he is absolutely amazing, a deranged lunaticQuote:
Originally Posted by parksey
you know the rules mate, get 'em up. (not yours)Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
imagine if he could shoot with his feet
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by parksey
Because we sure as hell cant cross to his strength consistently. Ki-Je is off set piece duty from now on
McGing Hutcho's shum?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
At least Miller admitted we were shit.....
These past two performances have shown us that overall we've still got a ways to go, but are definitively better then last season which is a positive.
Boogard and Jackson are doing a good job at CB, and it'll be good to have Mullen who is starting team ready have to earn his way back into the team.
Lee is slipping in my eyes, last season it seemed like we picked up an absolute hidden gem and so far this season he's looking less and less like that same player. I think Hoffman should be on the bench, Cowburn could easily do his job better and in my opinion should be the starting RB come season end.
Cam Watson better not be re-signed, I'd rather see us use some new, young players. Really need Kanta back and put Cam back on the bench.
Carney is good on the ball, and can do some solid passes but is lazy, especially as a 10. He needs to stay on the wing and understand he's gotta run after the ball if he doesn't get to a pass first or loses the ball. Pav was also shit on the wing, and it showed that some of these guys should've been swapped around or the formation should've been changed.
Milos is hit and miss, can do some good shit and then make really questionable decisions or miss some easier chances.
Very poor effort tonight against ten men but I'm happy with Miller's post-match comments. Some serious words and obvious disappointment which is more than you would have seen from Stubbins in the same situation. Dominating possession against ten men isn't good enough. Deserved to lose IMO.
Jackson was quite good at CB but I was worried when Boogaard copped a knock late on. Any more injuries to key players could really play a toll on the season. Cowburn should start over Hoffman and defensive effort needs to be better from midfield. Hopefully Leonardo is back sooner rather than later as his input was missed. I want to see Andy Brennan get a chance, even as a late sub. Surely wouldn't hurt to change things up if he's fully fit.
Overall just disappointed at the fact that we still can't beat the coasties. Winning down there later this season will make up for it though.
Just got off video call with her.Quote:
Originally Posted by q-money
She was showing me more than her tits.
Been a great day after all
Christ, lets hope they can only field 9 playersQuote:
Originally Posted by NewyTy
At our rate maybe eight or even seven on the field would see us win. Disappointed not to see us put the foot down when they went to ten. One of these days we'll beat them.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk
i think the crowd will beat the players & coach before we beat them. I hope you're right thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by NewyTy
just heard Miller commenting on the mad striker in the post game presser.
not cool.
almost stubbins-like.
anyone notice that paul izzo literally hurled himself into about 3 defenders and knocked a few over on the goal.
he was nowhere near the ball, how is that not given as a foul?
Listen to the whole press conference. It will be available on the Jetstream Extra podcast.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Nothing like the Muppet.
Because KGJ is a complete and total cock-wombleQuote:
Originally Posted by parksey
That was quite possibly the worst central midfield display ever. Watson and poljak were embarrassing in possession.
Agree. That stuff should be between the manager and the player. If Miller demands professionalism from his players he needs to lead by example.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
What I took from the game was that it re-enforced the fact we have very little depth.
With a few injuries keeping players out, once Leonardo was stretchered off, our midfield went with him. From that point on we had nothing in the middle of the park. Yes Carney was horrible as number 10, but he was only there because of the complete lack of depth. I'm not sure how long term all the injuries we have are, but until we get players back on the park, it could be very ugly.
With the players all fit, we look like we will be there at the pointy end of the season.
I did think Cowburn looked very positive though when he came on though, its about all I took from the night.
Hopefully Leonardo isn't gone for too long. Not sure what was worse, the mariners fans booing him as he was stretchered off, or the mariners twitter account calling the tackle soft. McGing should be suspended for the term of the injury if he has put Leonardo out long term.
-Milos is so shit but he always manages to do one good thing and then score.
-How come we defend crosses solidly for 90 minutes and let a goal in like that? I reckon if Boogard wasnt in the way then Birraz would have got to it
-Also we gave the ball away cheaply so many times yesterday it was ridiculous.
-It's clear that Rad is not at A-League level (on the wing anyway I thought he was decent last season) so the only youth player coming up and performing is Cowburn
I reckon we will finish 7th, not enough depth or quality to make the 6
McGing knows how to play a derby unlike miller. well done
thought the same thing. Brought some spice into the derby that I thought would make it a good game. The Jets had other ideasQuote:
Originally Posted by hawk
Thought overall, Jackson had a solid game, enough to think that Mullen may struggle to get back in. Watson worries me greatly, and we needed to have Cooper on the bench. Didn't see the point of Pav and Lundy both on the bench tbh.
Yep Watson is a pathetic footballer. Half the NBN sides would not even have him warming the pine.
That's a bit harsh suggesting half the NBN sides selectors are shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by 380
I agree, Jackson has been solid every time he has come on. Our backline for the most part was solid last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
The mids were far from solid after the send off.
Watson did nothing for me, Cowburn was much better when he came on and actually looked positive.
We need cooper, Kanta and Leonardo back. Gives us a solid midfield and some options on the bench that we are lacking at the moment.
but we arent going down this road here...Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
Jackson did ok for mine, Boogs wasnt his normal self and appear to have sympathies for the scum. explain before we start knee capping, boogs
Miller was terrible in that he didnt have team up for it. Wish I could face slap him. there is never a warm game for this.
Why didn't carney stay and play pav as second striker, you don't always need to play with a 10, Miller was out coached yesterday
Agree totallyQuote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
Just watching the replay - Okon on commentary openly questioning whether McGing deserved Red for the challenge on Leo. He's on some serious meds
whist i have no doubt he said all the right things pre season, the first sign of pressure, after 2 home losses and the worst performance so far against 10 men in a derby, he immediately throws his striker under the bus.Quote:
Originally Posted by furns
last time i looked he has 3 subs, if he doesn't like what he sees, he drags the offenders and goes to plan B.
Miller did nothing of the sort.
then he went and blamed the players.
not the best way to deal with it imho.
I would have preferred we went down to ten men too. Thin air is more useful than Hoffman is to our team.
Why Cooper wasn't on the bench?
That's a fair question as he was out there in the warm-up as the "spare" man in case of an injury during the warm-up so he obviously wasn't injured.Quote:
Originally Posted by lquiquer
Going on what we've seen so far this season Miller only likes to use two subs, so once Cowburn went on for Watson the chances for Lundy or Pawiak to come on were virtually nil unless someone else got injured.
As I said earlier, I don't see the point of having both Lundy and Pav on the bench together, don't they essentially play in the same positions?
I thought Pavicevic was either a striker or attacking mid while Lundy is a winger. Pavicevic didnt look very comfortable on the wing yesterdayQuote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
Lundy can play left or right wing. The yoof have on occasions played him as striker but that isn't his position and more a case of a lack of options in the yoofQuote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
Pavicevic is a striker. He has played a bit in the yoof on the wing but only as he wasn't deemed good enough for the striker role behind Kale and Crowley