Geez Louise, Maggie Thatcher is a bit of a debate starter eh.
Dead set learned more about British politics in the last 24 hrs than i did me entire life.
gosh.
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Geez Louise, Maggie Thatcher is a bit of a debate starter eh.
Dead set learned more about British politics in the last 24 hrs than i did me entire life.
gosh.
UoN Liberal Club Defeated the UoN Labor Club last night in the first debate.
Blows my mind that Turnbull believes this NBN bullshit. #fraudband and #stopthebytes are hilarious.
To be fair though, Stephen Conroy is all kinds of crazy too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
Neither bloke is particularly convincing.
Geez Louise you wonder why no one likes or trusts any of these grubs.
Plan is to now pay the major parties $1 per vote per year (backdated to include last election) to cover admin costs for the major parties.
Labor stands to get $8m, Libs $7.5 and the Greens a couple $mil as well.
Of course no one is against it.
Tact doesn't seem to be a big thang down Canberra way.
i actually support full public funding of political parties. if you remove the need to raise money (i.e. provide guaranteed funding for each party based on an equitable system), then they don't need to be raising donations through some of the dodgy practices they all use at the moment (splitting donations to come under the disclosure cap for example). why should a corporation be able to pay for what is essentially special access and benefits when the ordinary taxpayer is unable to (to the same extent)?
in summary, all for it cause i think democracy is up the proverbial without it.
I totally agree with this concept also and wish that's the way it was run.Quote:
Originally Posted by belchardo
But.
This new bill adds more funding to the pre-existing amounts granted post elections, and no changes have been made to accepting money from corporates/unions etc (apart from the threshold now being $5k for reportable donations down from $11.5k).
This new bill has also been funded with an unallocated $500m left over from this years budget. The budget which we were all told that we need new taxes etc to pay for major policy (which I also mostly agree with).
All sides are guilty in this as no parties will oppose it. But maybe it's something that could have been timed a little better rather than "lets take some more tax $ to fund all the crap we're going to pour down your throats in the next 100 days".
Also, I think we would enter a minefield where advertising can be independently funded by a business council/union/hippy group like getup that is essentially political anyway.
Not sure how they would prevent that from tipping the balance.
Most of it is wasted money, I know who I'm voting for, you know who you are voting for, it's all spent on the knobs who have trouble finding the polling booths. Red headed backstabbing bitch out, take her offsider Noddy with her, and Dutchy wants a lift.
glad you didn't get personal or anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by My2BobsWorth
Thats the thing, Im actually still undecided. I dont believe any of the advertising, but what I usually base my vote on (whichever policies will benefit me personally and professionally most) are a bit light on from everyone so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by My2BobsWorth
and dont even start me on the leadership of both sides. fecking clowns the lot of them.
i hate that these things turn into a popularity contest.
bloody teenagers and their twitters and myfaces.
you can thank the whole Kevin 07 campaign with this popularity and american style campaigns.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
your vote is for the member that you think is best for the area... Yes It does effect the seats and then you elect a political part to office. But thats what a good candidate should promote. With many a campaign of big swings come down to said candidates work on get the vote about the seat and the candidacy then this stupid voting about presidential type thing...
99% of the time though your federal MP will do sfa for the local area, especially for us homies out here in the burbs. Everything important at a local level is outside of their jurisdiction. So really it does just come down to voting for a party, I would vote for a total clown as my local member as long as it was my preferred party and they weren't using union funds for hookers or sniffing chairs and whatnot.Quote:
Originally Posted by goaliepersempre
All comes down to politics at all levels becoming professional.
Decrease the wages, remove incentives, and make them actually care about their constituents
bored at work.
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Originally Posted by belchardo
I welcome more money being spent for political purposes. Lobbying is an important part of a high functioning democracy and it cost money. - http://intelligencesquaredus.org/edu...-overregulatedQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
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Originally Posted by plague
Only those who have never had their democratic rights suffocated could complain that the popularity of their elected leaders is a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by goaliepersempre
That’s what the upper house is for, bro. Guess you will never vote independent then.Quote:
Originally Posted by militiamon
And how would lowering their pay make them more professional or caring?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackmac79
“In an anonymous comments section of the survey one MP wrote that such low levels of pay would soon mean that only MP's with private means would be able to enter parliament.” - http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...ay-rise-survey
Give me the likes of Costello, Keating and Howard (not particularly 'personable' chaps) over the rabble we have had in the last few years anyway. At least they were focused on running the country not playing nice with Kochie and Mel etc.
I have no problem with political donations/lobbying etc.
how's this for a novel approach? If any pollies are found to be corrupt how about locking them up or kicking them out? That's probably the best way to avoid such issues.
Disagree on wages. Our pollies get paid a relative pittance compared to the private sector. Discouraging big brains from running the biggest company in the country (the economy) would be dangerous.
'getting their democratic rights suffocated'. WOT?
Newcastle City Council votes 7-6 in favour of NOT debating motions about gay marriage.
So NCC officially has at least 6 peanuts.
FFS, just pick up my bin and fix the potholes.
Send in the EDL.
I'll be voting Lib for the first time. 2 reasons, firstly the Gillardgate disgrace where the wishes of the people were ignored, "the people pick the party and we pick the leader", sorry the people pick both. Secondly the lack of money going to safe Labor seats, we need them to be borderline to get some big money into the Hunter.
My vote I'll be soley based on the Gonski reforms.
Mr Fish:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Fish
Am I to assume you are a teacher?
If so quick question.
Is there any reason why education cirriculums arent national? All I ever read about is how good W.A. schools are going because they do their own thang. Is there a reason behind this? What's your opinion on it?
I always find it strange that we have such differing state rules and regulations in this area (and health, and law) for a population as (relatively) small as ours.
(I'm starting to research schools for my kid that's why I'm reading a bit about education).
I think WA and QLD have the advantage of not having the extra hour of school because of daylight saving, curtains are more colourful as well.
Correct assumption.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Quick answer....
National curriculums are being rolled out now to be implemented in many kla's from next year.
States are reluctant to hand over total control as the fat cats who decide these things will be out of a job if they say that their state role is redundant to a new national body. Remember that curriculum is not dictated by government but by independent organizations, the nsw BOS is separate from the DEC.
Some level of local control over content is warranted. What my kids need and how I teach would be vastly different to what and how things are taught in the NT, WA or even the school I just moved from 50klm away. There was fears that the new curriculum would be too prescriptive and remove flexibility from the system.
Gonski is the single most important piece of government legislation in my lifetime.
Reform of the funding structure of all schools is desperately overdue and Gonski has got so many many things right.
Cool. Cheers for the explanation.
About time the basics are being covered nationwide as federation has been around for a little while now.
There will be major deficiencies implementing the darn program and it will be forced to progressively change thus enforcing another most important piece of legislation in our lifetime.
example:
storm in a teacup yes but if you feel you need to add other subjects go right ahead.Quote:
Australian history will not be taught as a stand-alone subject in the senior years under the national curriculum, with modern and ancient history the only two subjects to be offered nationwide.
However the federal government said Australian history was a central part of modern history and states could continue to offer their own Australian history courses if they chose to do so.http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politi...709-21rua.html
For choosing schools, visit all the local ones, where possible talk to parents/teachers of these schools for some general feedback (beware of the rumours) and check out the socio ecomonic data for surrounding streets and suburbs (abs). I feel our current freedom of school choice can be discriminitive but this isnt the focus of the media at the moment.
I don't know what's going on with this "we're going to sell your port to finance our commitments elsewhere, and we might replace the rail line with a rail line". I sense that Newy will be rooted up the arse with a very large barge pole, again.
Here we go: Endgame at 7pm
Julia vs KRudd - battle to the (political) death
woo! something other than state of origin to watch. :D
pwoah shorten flip flops
gillard is pretty much toast now, oof
Worse than Avon turning on Stringer Bell.
Oh well, looks like the Return of the King.
Shorten pulls a face turn, backing Stone Cold Kevin.
Some cans of whoop ass about to be opened in Caucus.
How good was Rudds blue tie during the presser?
Massive middle finger to you Ginger lady!!!!
I'm going to miss Wayne Swan though.
He made me look really smart.
Oh well, Joe Hockey will do the same for me.
I likened it to Shorten wacking Gillard from behind with a steel chair.Quote:
Originally Posted by furns
Vince McMahon running federal Labor. Good times.
Still voting for Clive though.
Man of the people etc etc.
he should be, he is about five peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
Clive needs to get Pauline on board, she'll stop the boats.
Isn't Clive building a boat?
great. u-20's lost, gillard lost, blues down 14-0 5 to go in the first half.
this day has been awesome.
kevin's here now, and he's here to help clive. only thing is he's gotta zip. he's got some program specificity to work out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Fish