Kanta **** up leads to a goal
Kanta **** up leads to a goal
Well i think we can safely close any threads about Jets players getting offers to play in Asia.
Vargas goes off and going forward we went to s$/t
Well that was a good football lesson for many of our players, especially the ones with international ambitions. Has to be put in perspective though: let's not forget 3 of their players earn more than our entire team. And that's because they are good.
Hope it doesn't deflate them for Sunday
Can someone explain what Ridenton does for this team? What the **** does merrick see in this bloke?
TBH I think we will see how much our local standard has dropped when we see SFC and Victory in action.
Agree 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Merrick got formation tactics and subs wrong tonight
We had as much chance winning this as Kashima would against a big Euro club.
People need to be reasonable in their expectations.
Not happy with a few things sure but nothing could have been done to change the result.
Justice prevailed and Kashima won easily.
Referee tonight was a level above tonight as well. Thought he was great.
Dimi has not been worth two bob all season. Did not being selected by that Gypo Arnie mess with his head?, i don't know but nonetheless if he is one of our higher earners then his remuneration needs to be revisited. Honestly the bloke is riding on the plaudits of season 17/18 and noting from this season. Everything from his general and very predictable turn back and then inside taking 50 touches to his abysmal set pieces. Ernie keeps banging on about how is being double marked out of the game, Crap from Ernie Dimi has just become very predictable.
Johnny K and Kanta were horrible tonight. I get Johnny K has been through a lot however like last season he is terribly inconsistent and you just don't know what Johnny is going to turn up ie GF. Same can be said for Kanta which is really disappointing given his vast experience. If anything he should have been one of the rocks tonight but he was a dead set deer in the headlights and will be lucky to start our next game. In actual fact in his suit in the stands should be his speed for the next few weeks and provide Cowby with a greater opportunity.
Out of curiosity, would we have come up against whichever Japanese team did what Kashima did. Or was there random potential to play like a Korean or UAE or other nation team.
I think you are absolutely right and what we will see is just how bad the standard of the A League really is. Tis a league with too many average players running around in it making a living from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
It’s believed that Vargas has injured his groin or leg.
Meh, we all knew we we would lose the game. Hopefully the bad performances by some were just nerves at playing in Asia. Who are we losing to this weekend again?
ThisQuote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
Agreed, only mongs would rate Arzani that low.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Honestly surprised Ernie didn't put Georgie on the right to take on Abe. JohnnyK was getting it handed to him by the bloke all night. Whether Johnny got moved to the left or replaced by Vujica, I dunno, I figured Ernie would have addressed that issue earlier (slash at all).
Man we do a good job of saying "wow these people are so much better than us" then go home and sit on our hands.
The past few years of ACL campaigns and the nation team should provoke an absolute outrage from football head honchos yet we all seem to be "well Arzani is injured and Arnold is a great man manager".
It really is pathetic sometimes how low we set our bar.............and still always seem unable to reach it.
Don't even get me started on the state of Sumo Wrestling in Australia.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
What is pertinent to look at is last night showed how many things that HAL and Aussie football are failing in that we can and should be fixing and that the HAL is actually failing us
Lets not just bury our heads in the sand and say the Japs have more money better players than us as that is naive
Lets look at some things that we can improve
Defending for a start. The standard of Aussie defending is not good enough period..Now what exact skill set do ypu need to be world standard at defendimg ?? Because you dont find it in the FFA curriculum of Keep Ball
This is an area that we can easily improve in drastically which would make us more competitve
Fitness condidering the Japs were in pre season and we well into ours the fitness levels between those sides are mot.good enough. Our blokes are full time pros sports science in Oz is world class. Why exactly are we not fitter than them or on par
Speed to the ball- The anticipation to the ball by the Japanese was chalk and cheese between us. They were 1 step quicker to the ball than us all night long. If it was about to be free their reaction to the opportunities was a second quicker than ours
This should not be the case
Pressing. The organisation and speed and discipline to pressing by the Japanese put us under the pump because under the Dutch Mango suckers we believe in keeping the ball at all costs but also refuse to dribble or play risky balls forward. This can be noticed by Dimi not having 400 touches a play last night as he didnt get the time on the ball. Contrast this with our defensive press and how little pressure we put them under.This is an area where we can improve out of sight in
Goal Keeping There is no reason in the world we cant have world class keepers
Bozza Schwarzer Gypo Ryan we can produce keepers that can be world class.The skill sets required aint the same required to e a Messi or CR7 or Griff. So why are we constantly seeing opponents in ACL Socceroos games with keepers who are bettwr than the sjit we have in the HAL
The HAL and FFA are letting us down drastically.
Another point is the AFC have a Europa League comp. Why the **** are Australian clubs not playing in it on top of the ACL??
on this, to be eligibilie for the AFC cup (which is what i assume you are talking about) the member association "must be ranked from 7 and below in the “West Asia” ranking or the “East Asia” ranking" (see section 5, criterion 1 http://www.the-afc.com/afc/documents...017-2020-33728). I know we aren't amaze-balls in the standings, but we are defintely not outside the top 6 associations in east Asia.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
I respect where you were heading with your post but just want to point out you picked a poor game to use as an example to highlight poor keepers in the AL. Moss was amazing last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
The AFC already hate us for having a non-AFC team in our comp. As well as no promotion/relegation. We should be thankful we get what we already have!Quote:
Originally Posted by belchardo
I wouldnt say he had a great game at allQuote:
Originally Posted by pv4
Cost us the 2nd goal with some piss poor keeping
He even got falsly credited by Speed for a save when Boogaard got his arse back on the line to parry a goal bound shot
Game goes for 90 mins and at the end of the day he and Boogaard made the 2 errors that sank us
We may not qualify for this league for many years.
Yeah, Moss wasnt the issue with the second goal. He watched the flight of the ball and moved forward, then saw he had Kanta and Johnny K in position to deal with the ball so he retreated back towards the goal with the expectation they would be sufficient to cover. Unfortunately we all saw what happened next.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Hey, you forgot to sign out of CousCous and into Captain Obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Couscous
DisagreeQuote:
Originally Posted by furns
It is a chipped ball at little speed floated to the back post and into the 6 yard box
This is the keepers ball in every professional league on the planet
Moss has issues on aerial balls and it is a weak point on his game
Yes Johnny K needs to move to the ball and Kanta could have got there too
Butthis ignores the blatantly obvious
If the keeper does his job there he takes that ball
I fully understand why the defenders leave it for someone else
It was never their ball to deal with and they did what they should do
I have to agree with the Membah for once. As an ex keeper it was drilled into my head that any looping cross in the 6 yard box was mine...even if you took out your own defenders to get it.
No way Moss was getting to that maybe he couldve yelled a Johnny to wake the **** upQuote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
Just a thought - why didn't we apply greater pressure on the player who delivered the cross??
Johnny K was in the worst position to do anything about it. If he runs to the ball his only header is towards his own goal, plus he was 'always' gonna get out jumped by the man coming from behind.
His only saving grace would have been getting fouled by someone jumping over him.
The best options were Kanta and Moss who had a chance to run with the flight of the ball and their attacks on the ball would have gone away from goal at least.
Plus, keeper gonna get way more fouls called in his favour at the first sign of collision.
You go charging out there and get a fist on it if you cant catch it alsoQuote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
Bloke aint scoring at all if the keeper goes for it
Keeper gets touched goes to ground and protected species rule free kick
Forgetting the obvious with Moss being a Kiwi but why exactly are we Australian keepers so poor in the air dealing with crosses??
Being that 3 of our states specialise in a game where catching a ball above your head is mendatory in Tardball it doesnt make a lot of sense as to why we are so passive and indecisive at dealing with crosses
Moss aint the only one. Xan throw a blanket over HAL keepers and you will find that crosses trouble the **** out of them
But this is also an area where we need betterQuote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
A quality keeper besides coming for the cross also has the authority to command his box and command of his defenders
The work by Kanta and Johnny K showed that there is **** all direction back there
Our defenders looked like the Scouse defenders would if Klopp put Karius in nets at Old Trafford this weekend
No trust at all
Peter Bonetti would have claimed it.....:wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
As would've Ed De goeyQuote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
Also MeowQuote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster