2022 NPL Youth thread

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Originally Posted by Singlespeed

First thing is to shorten games times, bring them in line with Sydney. U13/14 is 2 x 30min periods. U15 (and U17 girls) is 2 x 35 min periods . U16 is 2 x 40 min periods. Then the players can focus on skill and not pound them at a young age just to get fitness for 40 min half's.

Gradually increase fitness over a few years.

Will even up some of the games too, as a fair few of the blowouts happen late in halfs/games.

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Your solution to increasing a player's ability is to reduce the amount of time they are playing which reduces their time on the ball and time learning how to play.

The player's already won't be playing 80 mins (except for the keeper) since any good coach and club will ensure there is even rotation. Team of 15 will have players playing about 54 minutes each game. Under this silly proposal they would go down to 40 mins per game. We won't even be producing players to increase the quality of 1st grade let alone players to make it higher.

Anyone who wants to further reduce game time has rocks in the head. The fact the 18s and reserves aren't 45 mins is a disgrace.

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Originally Posted by KITZ

It has very little to do with what you are wearing (other than from a confidence and psychological standpoint), its about how hard you work, talent will only get you so far.

Here's a question though, what is the right amount of training? If we want to produce players of that calibre that what does or should the training load (and games I suppose as an extension of that) look like?

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Stole this from here:
http://www.dunedinfootballacademy.com/training-hours

On average, European academies train as follows:

Team Training (Average volume):
U12 and below: 41-42 weeks/year, 3x per week consisting of 4-5 hours training.
U13-U15: 44 weeks/year, 5x per week consisting of more than 7 hours training.
U16+: 45 weeks/year, 5x per week consisting of about 9 hours training.

Individual Training (Average volume):
U12 and below: once per week, 30-60 minutes.
U13-U15: twice per week, 90 minutes.
U16+: at least twice per week, about 120 minutes.

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Originally Posted by Singlespeed

First thing is to shorten games times, bring them in line with Sydney. U13/14 is 2 x 30min periods. U15 (and U17 girls) is 2 x 35 min periods . U16 is 2 x 40 min periods. Then the players can focus on skill and not pound them at a young age just to get fitness for 40 min half's.

Gradually increase fitness over a few years.

Will even up some of the games too, as a fair few of the blowouts happen late in halfs/games.

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Probably the 8th silliest thing I've read on here. Sydney comp has also moved to 13,14's x 35 and 15 and 16's 40.......... Just last week.
Literally NOBODY is saying spend less time on the park.

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Originally Posted by KITZ

It has very little to do with what you are wearing (other than from a confidence and psychological standpoint), its about how hard you work, talent will only get you so far.

Here's a question though, what is the right amount of training? If we want to produce players of that calibre that what does or should the training load (and games I suppose as an extension of that) look like?

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Originally Posted by Aegon

Stole this from here:
http://www.dunedinfootballacademy.com/training-hours

On average, European academies train as follows:

Team Training (Average volume):
U12 and below: 41-42 weeks/year, 3x per week consisting of 4-5 hours training.
U13-U15: 44 weeks/year, 5x per week consisting of more than 7 hours training.
U16+: 45 weeks/year, 5x per week consisting of about 9 hours training.

Individual Training (Average volume):
U12 and below: once per week, 30-60 minutes.
U13-U15: twice per week, 90 minutes.
U16+: at least twice per week, about 120 minutes.

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Kids should have a ball at their feet everyday, whether that be organised or just individually honing their skills. Those that have the drive and ambition will do that others my just rest on their laurels.
Organised training sessions should be to develop game awareness and systems, and introduce new skills to hone at home.

The European clubs all have their own academies and in some cases kids get collected from school by the club buses, unfortunately we don't have those luxuries.

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Originally Posted by Singlespeed

First thing is to shorten games times, bring them in line with Sydney. U13/14 is 2 x 30min periods. U15 (and U17 girls) is 2 x 35 min periods . U16 is 2 x 40 min periods. Then the players can focus on skill and not pound them at a young age just to get fitness for 40 min half's.

Gradually increase fitness over a few years.

Will even up some of the games too, as a fair few of the blowouts happen late in halfs/games.

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If shortening game time then have less squad members. Having 5/6 on the bench is stupid.

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Originally Posted by travellingman

Clubs started buying kits in the 90's so everyone looked the same on Game day. Training kits came in the late 90's.
Just be cause you look the part doesn't mean you can play.

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Aint that the truth. Rep trials wearing scoops and still putting opponents over the fence!

Apparently the TD at edgy has resigned effective immediately. Sounds like it was to make a stand to the club. Is this the fall of the eagle?

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Originally Posted by SuperFish

Apparently the TD at edgy has resigned effective immediately. Sounds like it was to make a stand to the club. Is this the fall of the eagle?

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Theyll just get another one.

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Originally Posted by SuperFish

Apparently the TD at edgy has resigned effective immediately. Sounds like it was to make a stand to the club. Is this the fall of the eagle?

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Who was their TD?

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Originally Posted by mge61

Who was their TD?

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Glen C

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Originally Posted by travellingman

Kids should have a ball at their feet everyday, whether that be organised or just individually honing their skills. Those that have the drive and ambition will do that others my just rest on their laurels.
Organised training sessions should be to develop game awareness and systems, and introduce new skills to hone at home.

The European clubs all have their own academies and in some cases kids get collected from school by the club buses, unfortunately we don't have those luxuries.

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well said.

Valo 14s seem to be trialing very well? Some new faces?

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Originally Posted by Lichael Richards

Valo 14s seem to be trialing very well? Some new faces?

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Not many, just a few to replace those they lost to Jets. My mate Garbo just does a great job coaching them and is very development focussed.

Trials from the weekend
Olympic v Maitland

13s and 14s Maitland won but I don’t have the scores unfortunately.

15s Olympic 4-3
16s Maitland 5-3

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Originally Posted by Lichael Richards

Valo 14s seem to be trialing very well? Some new faces?

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Yes they got in some good new players including the Kahibah 13s keeper from last year that did very well

So the same old Magic coaches were sent from the field over the weekend against NL18s.

Not the first time nor will it be the last time from those two galahs but seems the Magic committee will back their friends over the perception of the club.

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Originally Posted by Goatscheese

So the same old Magic coaches were sent from the field over the weekend against NL18s.

Not the first time nor will it be the last time from those two galahs but seems the Magic committee will back their friends over the perception of the club.

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oh no, not again. Tell me it wasnt the xxxL dude. He is a disgrace.

Culture wont change until it is club wide.

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Originally Posted by Goatscheese

So the same old Magic coaches were sent from the field over the weekend against NL18s.

Not the first time nor will it be the last time from those two galahs but seems the Magic committee will back their friends over the perception of the club.

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They were never sent off. The two Magic Coaches carried on like they always do when their team is losing and at the end of the game one of the NL officials told the big fella to pull his head in. The rest of the day was trouble free and both Clubs seem to be striking up an interesting relationship as officials and Coaches from both Clubs were mingling and talking at length.

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Originally Posted by samcan

oh no, not again. Tell me it wasnt the xxxL dude. He is a disgrace.

Culture wont change until it is club wide.

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Of course it was, we'll see it again.

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Originally Posted by KITZ

Trials from the weekend
Olympic v Maitland

13s and 14s Maitland won but I don’t have the scores unfortunately.

15s Olympic 4-3
16s Maitland 5-3

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Great results for Maitland Kitz. What is happening at Olympic

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Originally Posted by Goatscheese

So the same old Magic coaches were sent from the field over the weekend against NL18s.

Not the first time nor will it be the last time from those two galahs but seems the Magic committee will back their friends over the perception of the club.

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Our son plays in this team at magic, we were once rivals and now part of this team, they have never been sent off so, that's a fouls statement to make.
what everyone doesn't see is the amount of effort they put into their squad to development their players into better footballers and young man, I first would admit that yes if you don't know them you would react like people do about them, its not fair just pointing them out other coaches do the same at other clubs.

The coach on the weekend got vocal because one of his players season or career nearly ended by a very disgusting challenge just before halftime as a parent, i don't see what they did wrong as was described by others in comments, how about telling the full story, they didn't verbally abuse anyone or hit anyone or approach anyone to intimidate anyone, unlike the officials that tried to intimidate them on the side line at the end of the game. I think they have been unfairly treated here, keep up the good work coaches and those who slander are only jealous that you guys aren't coaching their kids or teams, i see something special happening with this team in 2022. GO MAGIC

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Originally Posted by YerMate

Our son plays in this team at magic, we were once rivals and now part of this team, they have never been sent off so, that's a fouls statement to make.
what everyone doesn't see is the amount of effort they put into their squad to development their players into better footballers and young man, I first would admit that yes if you don't know them you would react like people do about them, its not fair just pointing them out other coaches do the same at other clubs.

The coach on the weekend got vocal because one of his players season or career nearly ended by a very disgusting challenge just before halftime as a parent, i don't see what they did wrong as was described by others in comments, how about telling the full story, they didn't verbally abuse anyone or hit anyone or approach anyone to intimidate anyone, unlike the officials that tried to intimidate them on the side line at the end of the game. I think they have been unfairly treated here, keep up the good work coaches and those who slander are only jealous that you guys aren't coaching their kids or teams, i see something special happening with this team in 2022. GO MAGIC

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Just beautiful

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Originally Posted by YerMate

Our son plays in this team at magic, we were once rivals and now part of this team, they have never been sent off so, that's a fouls statement to make.
what everyone doesn't see is the amount of effort they put into their squad to development their players into better footballers and young man, I first would admit that yes if you don't know them you would react like people do about them, its not fair just pointing them out other coaches do the same at other clubs.

The coach on the weekend got vocal because one of his players season or career nearly ended by a very disgusting challenge just before halftime as a parent, i don't see what they did wrong as was described by others in comments, how about telling the full story, they didn't verbally abuse anyone or hit anyone or approach anyone to intimidate anyone, unlike the officials that tried to intimidate them on the side line at the end of the game. I think they have been unfairly treated here, keep up the good work coaches and those who slander are only jealous that you guys aren't coaching their kids or teams, i see something special happening with this team in 2022. GO MAGIC

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Spoken like a true defensive fool. Youve gone to the right club from that post. Anyone defending that coach is just deluded.
Ive seen his appalling and obnoxious behavior over many years. The language, the abuse of his own players and opposition is just terrible.

The grub club strikes every week it seems.

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Originally Posted by samcan

Spoken like a true defensive fool. Youve gone to the right club from that post. Anyone defending that coach is just deluded.
Ive seen his appalling and obnoxious behavior over many years. The language, the abuse of his own players and opposition is just terrible.

The grub club strikes every week it seems.

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Looking at YerMate’s past posts I would say with strong certainty that he IS the said coach.

Nice try with the just moved from a rival club buster. But that lie is as big as your shirt size.

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Originally Posted by The Berlin Wall

Looking at YerMate’s past posts I would say with strong certainty that he IS the said coach.

Nice try with the just moved from a rival club buster. But that lie is as big as your shirt size.

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https://c.tenor.com/qO-AiHNj-jUAAAAC/mike-tyson-lol.gif

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Originally Posted by samcan

Spoken like a true defensive fool. Youve gone to the right club from that post. Anyone defending that coach is just deluded.
Ive seen his appalling and obnoxious behavior over many years. The language, the abuse of his own players and opposition is just terrible.

The grub club strikes every week it seems.

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I’ve coached against this bloke twice. Both times the game has ended with abuse being directed towards my players, parents, or officials. One time even a 16 year old sibling of a player who tried to calm him down.

Embarrassing.

As for the joker who said he is helping his players develop as young men (clearly him by the way) you should know that young blokes will actually take their cues from your behaviour and mirror it. Laughable statement.

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Originally Posted by The Berlin Wall

Looking at YerMate’s past posts I would say with strong certainty that he IS the said coach.

Nice try with the just moved from a rival club buster. But that lie is as big as your shirt size.

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Anyone going to name the coach for the uneducated

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Originally Posted by The Hacker

Anyone going to name the coach for the uneducated

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Please dont.Its not needed.

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I’m sure RH is doing wonders

Results v Valentine

13s 4-3 loss
14s 7-1 loss
15s 10-0 win
16s 4-1 loss

The best place for Jaffas JDL players to develop is to leave.

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This is from another thread but thought it was interesting to respond here.Valo 13s and 14s have both had some very positive talk around their performances in the trials so far.Its really good to hear.Weird about the Jaffas this years 14s were clearly 2nd best last year behind Magic and they had a really good JDL 12 squad and got in quite a few good players to add to it.Maybe there is more to it but it would be sad to see if they have fallen away after such a good last few years.

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Originally Posted by YerMate

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Plenty of other coaches put in a lot of time and effort to develop their players into better footballers and manage to not carry on like absolute pork chops everytime something doesn't go their way

You now may feel biased (even more so if you are actually the coach) and a need to defend the coach now you are part of the team but there is still no justification for the behaviour I saw on the weekend and in other games.

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Originally Posted by Goatscheese

Plenty of other coaches put in a lot of time and effort to develop their players into better footballers and manage to not carry on like absolute pork chops everytime something doesn't go their way

You now may feel biased (even more so if you are actually the coach) and a need to defend the coach now you are part of the team but there is still no justification for the behaviour I saw on the weekend and in other games.

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Well said.

Moving on. The comp kicks off this weekend and we have the usual east coast low to greet us.

Hope we get some games to watch.

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Originally Posted by Oldy

Well said.

Moving on. The comp kicks off this weekend and we have the usual east coast low to greet us.

Hope we get some games to watch.

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Nothing like having a million mid week games to start the season :(

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Originally Posted by Hurricane

Great results for Maitland Kitz. What is happening at Olympic

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Honestly in the older 2 age groups I'd say they have had more player movement than they are used to. Maitland not so much, only maybe 3 or so come in the older age groups. Possibly just an off weekend, but Maitland have been doing a lot of work and have high expectations, so it could be that they are just catching the other clubs now.

My mate Garbo is the U14s Valo coach and he is all about developing players and if the results come that is a bonus. He has kept the bulk of the team together from last year with a few new additions to replace the players he lost to Jets. Valo 13s could surprise a few teams but they are a work in progress. The 15s are on an upward curve and will finish higher than last year and the 16s have the chance to go far if they can be consistent. That is my review of my club Valentine. I am happy to hear anyone else review their club’s prospects.

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Originally Posted by Captain_Carl

My mate Garbo is the U14s Valo coach and he is all about developing players and if the results come that is a bonus. He has kept the bulk of the team together from last year with a few new additions to replace the players he lost to Jets. Valo 13s could surprise a few teams but they are a work in progress. The 15s are on an upward curve and will finish higher than last year and the 16s have the chance to go far if they can be consistent. That is my review of my club Valentine. I am happy to hear anyone else review their club’s prospects.

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15s getting pumped. 13s and 16s will do ok. 14s will do best imo.

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Originally Posted by sapdad

Please dont.Its not needed.


This is from another thread but thought it was interesting to respond here.Valo 13s and 14s have both had some very positive talk around their performances in the trials so far.Its really good to hear.Weird about the Jaffas this years 14s were clearly 2nd best last year behind Magic and they had a really good JDL 12 squad and got in quite a few good players to add to it.Maybe there is more to it but it would be sad to see if they have fallen away after such a good last few years.

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Difference between developing and acquiring players. Some good 15s came in. They took a couple of edgys best 12s from last year for the 13s. Not sure what is going on but you must play the system or you out.

Luckily North Coast has the bye. Grounds under water

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Originally Posted by terry

Luckily North Coast has the bye. Grounds under water

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Only time they should be washed out now they have the new artificial turf

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Originally Posted by terry

Luckily North Coast has the bye. Grounds under water

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Won’t be the only ground under water this weekend

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Originally Posted by BS detecor

Won’t be the only ground under water this weekend

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Yep. Wont be much, if any, to watch this weekend.

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Originally Posted by terry

Yep. Wont be much, if any, to watch this weekend.

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Nope, the whole round has been cancelled