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14-07-2015, 11:27 AM
RAM

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Originally Posted by BodyNovo

we may as well have kept chilli, if we are going to sign ramsay & danning

Danning never really recovered from his knee injury at Sydney, and was only effective there due to raw pace.

At least Ramsay has a decent cross on him and doesn't rely solely on pace.
14-07-2015, 11:31 AM
Grimario

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Originally Posted by RAM

Don't think he has the touch to play centrally.

I'd prefer Alivodic to slot into no. 10 - seems to have the ability to play there.

Re the discussion of Ramsay - Miller may be looking at playing an inverted winger on the right. Who knows. He hasn't said much.

Alivodic played centrally in a few of the videos we saw before he signed... I think both up front and in behind. Cooper needs to own that position this year though and with no senior options out wide, I think Alivodic will probably be used out there regularly... unless of course, as you say, Miller is moving away from our regular 4-3-3 or variations of.

I would have thought Lundy on the left and Carney on the right (if Alivodic is central) or Alivodic/Carney would be the preferred option. As someone said, maybe he's being looked at as a 3rd/4th choice winger and a backup to Leaky G as left back? Sigh :(

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Originally Posted by RAM

Carney is just a major liability in my opinion.

No speed, no fitness, just off the pace in general.

Yes his touch and vision are better than most in our squad, but given his wages he is simply a liability that needs to be cut.

I don't know if the under Stubbins Carney is the Carney that will be here this season. I hope not. Definitely agree that for the coin he is getting though, he should an absolute star of a player and I don't think he's capable of that. I live on in hope though.
14-07-2015, 11:38 AM
RAM

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Originally Posted by Grimario

Alivodic played centrally in a few of the videos we saw before he signed... I think both up front and in behind. Cooper needs to own that position this year though and with no senior options out wide, I think Alivodic will probably be used out there regularly... unless of course, as you say, Miller is moving away from our regular 4-3-3 or variations of.

I would have thought Lundy on the left and Carney on the right (if Alivodic is central) or Alivodic/Carney would be the preferred option. As someone said, maybe he's being looked at as a 3rd/4th choice winger and a backup to Leaky G as left back? Sigh :(

I don't know if the under Stubbins Carney is the Carney that will be here this season. I hope not. Definitely agree that for the coin he is getting though, he should an absolute star of a player and I don't think he's capable of that. I live on in hope though.

Would seem to be too many wingers in the squad if Ramsay or Danning come in.

Miller must be thinking of turning some into backs. Carney would be a very expensive LB.
14-07-2015, 11:40 AM
Frodo

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Originally Posted by RAM

Carney is just a major liability in my opinion.

No speed, no fitness, just off the pace in general.

Yes his touch and vision are better than most in our squad, but given his wages he is simply a liability that needs to be cut.

Please don't think i'm saying Carney would excel through the middle, i just think with the balance of players we have and the available money it will inevitably happen.

Being a filthy Carny he could probably do a job selling deep fried pies on the drinking hill? He can earn some of his gigantic wages back for the club??
14-07-2015, 11:44 AM
Grimario

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Originally Posted by RAM

Would seem to be too many wingers in the squad if Ramsay or Danning come in.

Miller must be thinking of turning some into backs. Carney would be a very expensive LB.

Carney would be very expensive in any position though... and given I still hate his guts for losing his player at the Asian Cup, if he plays left back I might really jump ship to supporting the best left back in the league.

I hope Cyc10n is right though and they are slim (preferably none) chances of signing.
14-07-2015, 11:59 AM
RAM

Maybe miller is looking at a 3-4-3 with 5 at the back in defence. Hence the need for so many wingers.
14-07-2015, 12:00 PM
Bon

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Originally Posted by Frodo

Being a filthy Carny he could probably do a job selling deep fried pies on the drinking hill? He can earn some of his gigantic wages back for the club??

Spot on, Mr Baggins..
14-07-2015, 12:02 PM
RAM

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Originally Posted by Frodo

Please don't think i'm saying Carney would excel through the middle, i just think with the balance of players we have and the available money it will inevitably happen.

Being a filthy Carny he could probably do a job selling deep fried pies on the drinking hill? He can earn some of his gigantic wages back for the club??

Hard to believe we pay a bloke that kind of wage when he played 16 games in the previous 4-5 seasons before signing with us. :facepalm:
14-07-2015, 12:04 PM
Grimario

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Originally Posted by Bon

Spot on, Mr Baggins..

What is Carney's best position, Bon? Do you know anyone that could give us some insight?
14-07-2015, 12:07 PM
Bon

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Originally Posted by Grimario

What is Carney's best position, Bon? Do you know anyone that could give us some insight?

Nah, I don't know anyone anymore.. Cheers for the reminder though..
14-07-2015, 12:22 PM
borat

I would like to see us sign a quality foreign 6 and 9 to slot into the first team. If the salary cap stretched to a 10 as well then great, if not would be happy to throw Nick Carle a lifeline to support Cooper. Had heard Nicky had agreed to sign on under Stubbins but not sure now.

Leave Alivodic and Carney to play in their best positions out wide if we are to get any value for money out of them. Carney we can only pray gets his Chinese deal prior to the season start
14-07-2015, 12:23 PM
pv4

I'm a big fan of Carney and think he adds a lot to the team. Him and Flores worked really well together last year, in the circumstances. I think he'll be one of our most important players.

Alivodić I don't see playing anywhere but RM or as a pacey second striker.
14-07-2015, 12:43 PM
borat

The one unattached Australian player I would love if we made a serious play for is Dario Vidosic
14-07-2015, 12:50 PM
Jeterpool

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Originally Posted by borat

The one unattached Australian player I would love if we made a serious play for is Dario Vidosic

Is he available?

Sign him up!!!
14-07-2015, 12:58 PM
q-money

rado is going to melbourne as assistant, dario would follow you'd assume
14-07-2015, 01:05 PM
Roundball Enthusiast

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Originally Posted by Jeterpool

Is he available?

Looks like it, doesn't appear on the current FC Sion roster.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Sion#Current_squad
14-07-2015, 01:23 PM
pv4

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Originally Posted by q-money

rado is going to melbourne as assistant, dario would follow you'd assume

I can't imagine Victory have the salary cap space for Dario, or arguably any other player. I guess they do have the Australian marquee spot open though.
14-07-2015, 01:26 PM
Grimario

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Originally Posted by pv4

I can't imagine Victory have the salary cap space for Dario, or arguably any other player. I guess they do have the Australian marquee spot open though.

And with Finkler, FBK, Pain, Archie, Besart and Kosta all vying for those attacking spots... would seem like an odd signing.

They apparently only have 17 players on their books as well...
14-07-2015, 01:30 PM
q-money

if the ayatollah can't have it, no-one can
14-07-2015, 01:33 PM
Grimario

Quote:

Originally Posted by borat

The one unattached Australian player I would love if we made a serious play for is Dario Vidosic

No love for Scott McDonald? Juric?

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