Insert Name Here aka The Ownership Thread

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Originally Posted by sammydog

Off field though with back room staff and facilities is another thing altogether and this is where I see us really falling compared to other clubs. Id love to see a comparison with other clubs in relation to staffing levels and roles within clubs. I think this is where the Tinkler regime has really looked to cut corners and it shows.

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The Jets have the smallest back office group in the league. The Mariners have 50% more people than we do.

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Originally Posted by I changed my user name

Must agree with you hear MFKS , its not the lack of spending over last few years but what we have been spending it on .

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Where the money has been spent, had largely been dictated by HSG.
Who controlled how, where and when money was spent has been the issue all along.

Jets Auctioning Jerseys to pay for the Youth Teams.

http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/arti...p1mhah0kgrittq

Yep, we are a financially viable club.

Y'all are quick turning your backs on the great man Tinks.

Remembers Cons infamous line about the grass being greener.....

We should be careful what we wish for.

$400 starting bid for Taggart and Griff. Far out.

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Originally Posted by plague

Y'all are quick turning your backs on the great man Tinks.

Remembers Cons infamous line about the grass being greener.....

We should be careful what we wish for.

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The grass is dying and yellow where I am. But hey, at least Tarek and bubs play here.

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Originally Posted by MFKS

Yep utter horseshit

The years we were paying Heskey 700k and had a squad full of blokes on good money there was not one complaint we were stinging on the salary cap.

Remind me who Gypos had at this time as their marquee?? No one

Yet your telling me we were getting outspent by the Gypos.

FMD

As for your list Smurfs Yes ADP was not cheap Victree maybe but they never really has a marquee after Kewell failing until Berisha unless you count Contreras last season but the rest of them no.

Heart were broke and a basketcase until City bought them. Adelaide ain't wealthy now FFS. Perth if they have been with the players they have had in recent years they were paying overs.

Next time think before typing it would help

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Gee you talk some crap. If only you knew what you were talking bout. Why don't you do some research before you post bullshit. Victree had a turnover of $14 million in the 2013 year, and made a small profit ($200,000odd) which means they spent $13+million. Do you honestly think the Jets spent that much. Sydney was not far behind them in turnover, Perth spent huge amounts maybe not to the extent of $12million but still more than the jets, ditto with Adelaide and CCM. They CCM did spend a biton the centreof exellence etc.
My original post made no mention of spendin on players, it merely said spending in general. As someone said spending on facilities etc is just as important as spending on players, as part of the attraction for players to go to a club is not just the amount they are getting paid but also failities etc.

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Originally Posted by Jeterpool

$400 starting bid for Taggart and Griff. Far out.

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$200 starting bid for guys who reached their peak being shit players for us. If you buy it, you're paying $200 for a used shirt that one of our shit players scribbled on. What a joke.

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Originally Posted by sammydog

Jets Auctioning Jerseys to pay for the Youth Teams.

http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/arti...p1mhah0kgrittq

Yep, we are a financially viable club.

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What's Bridges' starting price?

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Originally Posted by De-Champ

Gee you talk some crap. If only you knew what you were talking bout. Why don't you do some research before you post bullshit. Victree had a turnover of $14 million in the 2013 year, and made a small profit ($200,000odd) which means they spent $13+million. Do you honestly think the Jets spent that much. Sydney was not far behind them in turnover, Perth spent huge amounts maybe not to the extent of $12million but still more than the jets, ditto with Adelaide and CCM. They CCM did spend a biton the centreof exellence etc.
My original post made no mention of spendin on players, it merely said spending in general. As someone said spending on facilities etc is just as important as spending on players, as part of the attraction for players to go to a club is not just the amount they are getting paid but also failities etc.

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Seeing as Tinks don't pay the bills anyway hard to get a true perspective on how much money the club spends anyway.

Whether we are spending 13million or 8 million is complete irrelevant. We are spending our money poorly. That needs to change so we are at the top level of making decisions that actually get us value for money

Considering clubs in this country don't own **** all of training facilities bar that COE at Gypo land and they have barely spent **** all on it in the last 2years let alone anyone owning their own ground can you enlighten me as to what the other 8 HAL clubs are investing in facility wise??

I will be intrigued to hear your answer for this??

Tinks is 100% setting himself up to request some compensation from the FFA for his licence since he cant find a buyer. This stoush is going to be much more interesting than what happens on the field for the us.

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Originally Posted by MFKS

Seeing as Tinks don't pay the bills anyway hard to get a true perspective on how much money the club spends anyway.

Whether we are spending 13million or 8 million is complete irrelevant. We are spending our money poorly. That needs to change so we are at the top level of making decisions that actually get us value for money

Considering clubs in this country don't own **** all of training facilities bar that COE at Gypo land and they have barely spent **** all on it in the last 2years let alone anyone owning their own ground can you enlighten me as to what the other 8 HAL clubs are investing in facility wise??

I will be intrigued to hear your answer for this??

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this coming from you was the most surprising post of all. You always seem to know all about players and quality of teams etc... The mind boggles on how you can spend money on facilities etc... I will give you one example though. Way back when Wellington was owned by the Greek guy and Ricky Herbert was the coach, they played an A League game in Australia (nothing unusual about that) and had to play the following week in Australia as well (two games in a row on the road again nothing unusual about that) When they played the first game instead of travelling back to NZ they stayed the whole week in Australia to avoid all the travelling. I know it is hard for you to imagine, but don't you think there would have been added (expenses) spending in that, hotels etc. Have the Jets ever done that? I would dare to say the Jets would do the reverse to save a few bob, they would travel the day before and come back the day after the game, or of it was an early kick off come back after the game to save on costs.

So now your telling me spending on hotel rooms is spending on facilities.
I just don't know what to do with that so I will just laugh.



If I remember right we had a two games in Melburn over Xmas the other year and the boys stayed there.
We also had a midweek game in Wellington and then flew to Milburn instead of returning to Newy

Theres two examples that blow your theory out of the water. Both funded by Tinks.

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Originally Posted by MFKS

So now your telling me spending on hotel rooms is spending on facilities.
I just don't know what to do with that so I will just laugh.



If I remember right we had a two games in Melburn over Xmas the other year and the boys stayed there.
We also had a midweek game in Wellington and then flew to Milburn instead of returning to Newy

Theres two examples that blow your theory out of the water. Both funded by Tinks.

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great week that

blackjack with half the team and poker with josh mitchell.

Sydney have spent decent coin improving facilities they train in at mac uni.
They were using marquee and shipping containers.

Love it how one bloke argues his point with loose assumptions and baseless facts but argues against others doing the same.

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Originally Posted by GazFish35

Love it how one bloke argues his point with loose assumptions and baseless facts but argues against others doing the same.

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It's called religion.

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Originally Posted by BodyNovo

great week that

blackjack with half the team and poker with josh mitchell.

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This has been the only post in the whole argument with any facts and evidence in it.

The rest of y'all are just yelling.

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Originally Posted by MFKS

So now your telling me spending on hotel rooms is spending on facilities.
I just don't know what to do with that so I will just laugh.



If I remember right we had a two games in Melburn over Xmas the other year and the boys stayed there.
We also had a midweek game in Wellington and then flew to Milburn instead of returning to Newy

Theres two examples that blow your theory out of the water. Both funded by Tinks.

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yes maybe so, I was not aware of that, so you win on that point. However other clubs do seem to have a cast of thousands compared to the jets.

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Originally Posted by MFKS

So now your telling me spending on hotel rooms is spending on facilities.
I just don't know what to do with that so I will just laugh.



If I remember right we had a two games in Melburn over Xmas the other year and the boys stayed there.
We also had a midweek game in Wellington and then flew to Milburn instead of returning to Newy

Theres two examples that blow your theory out of the water. Both funded by Tinks.

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Forget facilities, are we spending similar to other clubs on support and backroom staff. If we are not sufficiently resourced there compared to other clubs we will not be giving the players the dedicated support they need to do their best no matter how much we pump into the salary cap and marquees.

Spending isn't isolated to the playing roster. You need to spend to support the players, this is what we don't do and is probably a factor in why we have so many injuries all the time.

This is where we do need money and I believe we haven't been spending it. The Jets under tinker have been largely under resourced in terms of backroom support staff.

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Originally Posted by GazFish35

Sydney have spent decent coin improving facilities they train in at mac uni.
They were using marquee and shipping containers.

Love it how one bloke argues his point with loose assumptions and baseless facts but argues against others doing the same.

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But the member knows all and sees all so any assumption about his assumptions is purely speculation. Oh and he doesn't assume anything, he mearly changes his point of view when someone else's assumption seems more plausible than his own....I can only assume.