Your description of what Suarez got fined and suspended for is inaccurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
That's what you were wrong about.
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Your description of what Suarez got fined and suspended for is inaccurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
That's what you were wrong about.
Welcome to the internet Plague.... Where we never let the truth get in the way of a good story. Haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
On a similar note, what's everyone's thoughts on Wilshire to Man City for 30 mil??
I reckon if he stays he will constantly be injured and never live up to his amazing potential. But if he leaves he will stay injury free and become an England Great and come back to haunt Wenger for the rest of his days.
What exactly did Suarez get fined and suspended for?Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
dunno, you're gonna have to ask Patrice Evra who was the only person who clearly heard repeated racial slurs in a crowded penalty area.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
Judge was like "yeah cool cool, thats good enough".
also, the world found out that buying a tin of black paint in Spain within earshot of an english speaking person makes you a rampant racist.
cute
Here comes Parksey strolling through every thread with his limited edition Man United tin foil hat on again.Quote:
Originally Posted by parksey
Keep fighting the good fight sir.
So was Frodo "wrong and inaccurate", or do you "dunno" what happened?Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
I'm so confused.
He didn't do what Frodo said he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
But
No one really knows what he said or the context he apparently said it in.
But he's Suarez and he bit people so they assumed he was being a ****.
The findings are on the interwebs somewhere have a read and see for yourself.
plague in playing devil's advocate shocker
You know me Parksey, always sticking up for the downtrodden marginalised multimillionaire footballers.Quote:
Originally Posted by parksey
:rof:Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
I don't really see how you can outright say what Frodo said didn't happen, then follow it up with "no one really knows what he said, or context".Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
I did a quick search on the stories from Evra & Suarez's point of views, and looked briefly at the findings. From what I can find, the FA charged Suarez with a 40k fine and an 8 match ban for using "abusive and/or insulting words and/or behaviour", including "a reference to the ethnic origin and/or colour and/or race". Also, all of the evidence (video replays, linguistics experts, etc) backed up Evra's side of the story far, far more than Suarez's.
Frodo was pretty fxxxing close m8.
Aaaand IMO Suarez is a cannibalistic (sp - potentially not even a word :oops: ) racist who I believe should be banned from the game indefinitely - even taking into account how great a footballer he is.
my issue was the use of the term "black ****". which forgive me if i have the wrong impression of what the **** stood for but those words were never said. the linguistic experts were brought in because Evra said the word "negro" was used, whereas it was explained to the hearing that "negro" was the spanish word for black. hence the 'context' debate.
once again, you, me, frodo, the judges, and everyone else doesn't know for sure what was said. Evra had one version of events, Suarez had another. the judges believed Evra. cool cool. but as i said, no one knows for sure what was said because no one else heard anything.
i hate racism, i hate racists. i also think accusing someone of being a racist is a big deal. i also think society has a very very strange way of dealing with racism.
as for the FA deciding someone is a racist lets just say the burden of proof is a fair bit lower than that of a court of law.
example a: John Terry (a white english captain who had never bitten anyone), caught on camera and taken to court:
"Chief Magistrate Howard Riddle concluded that while there was not doubt that John Terry had uttered the words "****ing black ****" at Anton Ferdinand, it is possible that this was not intended as an insult but as a challenge to what he believed had been said to him."
So in conclusion:
Suarez = racist.
Terry = not racist.
we all cool with that yeah?
I'm probably twice the age or more of the average forum member here and in my life I am yet to meet someone that is not a racist - and I have met a **** of a lot of people.
We all like to think we aren't racist but when push comes to shove the majority of us [if not everyone] can hang their heads in shame for something they have done or said in the past and probably will do or say in the future.
With respect to Suarez he should have been banned for life the day he purposely bit another player. Arguing about whether or not he's a racist is just a convenient smoke screen to keep him involved in the game.
so you're 24?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
Crazy deflection, but anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Apart from seemingly the FA, I don't know of anyone who has said they are happy with that conclusion.
I think I agree with basically everything Dunster has said too, by the way.
Nah not a deflection, more so an absurd statement regarding an absurd handling of all of those situations.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
Society does a great job of pointing and yelling racist but has very little interest in dealing with racism.
I agree wholeheartedly.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Which makes me feel even more so that it's a shame that Suarez wasn't punished far longer for basically all of his serious charges, inc his racism charge.
And, what started this, makes it all the more obscene that Jack Wilshire was fined the same amount of money for his Sp*rs jab as Suarez was when charged with racism.
one day I'm going to deep dive back and see some of the punishments dished out by the FA over the years.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
Should be lulz-turtle worthy.
So cech to N5
Hope it happens.