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29-09-2016, 10:59 PM
plague

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Originally Posted by lquiquer

Benfica sir ^^... Benfica....

they all look the same to me
29-09-2016, 11:01 PM
plague

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Originally Posted by The Dunster

The Chinese player hasn't managed to crack it in the 2nd tier of Chinese football. His presence at the Jets sends a message to the Chinese that the A-league is weak and anyone playing 3rd tier or so in China will be more than good enough to make it in the A-league. The only reason he played 2nd tier in Portugal was because he was dropped into a team by Martin Lee. He wasn't there on merit, he was there because Martin Lee forced him into the team. No surprise that his old team aren't crying foul that he's left.
I hope he transforms under Aussie conditions and proves the doubters wrong but I wouldn't be holding my breath.

jeez, Pauline Hanson says the exact same thing 20 years back and gets put in jail.

my oh my how times have changed.
30-09-2016, 06:48 AM
turbojetfireV8

how long till Ma actually arrives to join the team? we can't even assess how he looks on a training pitch at the moment, he didn't exactly feature prominently in any of the snippets from the tour, has he even got a highlights package??? :D

it's gonna be interesting to see what he brings, as far as I can tell from Transfermarkt he hasn't even played in Portugal http://www.transfermarkt.com/leilei-...spieler/187992, he signed 1 July 2016 from a Chinese team where he appears to have not been playing much football, whether through injury or not being picked can't tell, but there's not a lot to get excited about at present, may need a minor miracle from him to show up all the sceptics and actually show he isn't just some gimmick from the boss... :popcorn:
30-09-2016, 07:35 AM
halo se7en

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Originally Posted by lquiquer

Not only 1 chinese player, but one unknown,unproven,nobody Chinese player........If we signed the Chinese Cahill maybe yes I can see the benefits but Ma Lei Lei ???!!!! hope he proves us wrong but....

This is exactly the point a lot of people seem to be missing. I don't care if Lee wants a Chinese players in the squad for financial/business purposes. But the guy sounds like an utter nobody, and has come into a team full of utter nobodies who will be lucky to make the top half of the table. Why on earth would the Chinese public care? Why watch games when he's not even likely to get on the pitch? Considering some of the players that are trotting around in the CSL at the moment, what appeal does the A-league have?

How many Aussies have tuned in to the CSL over the last decade to watch Cahill, Griffiths (all 4 of them), McBreen, Santalab, Vidosic, Ibini, Paartalu, McKay, Milligan, Sterjovski, Djite, Troisi, Leijer, Thwaite, Sainsbury, Spiranovic.....? Some of these players were/are good enough for our national side, and appear miles ahead of our Chinese guy, yet did they attract any widespread interest from here? I'm guessing no. I've certainly never seen one single person wearing a CSL shirt with an Aussie name on the back (or even just a CSL shirt) I know our population is miniscule compared to the Chinese, but the point remains.

Lee can do what he wants, but this move still baffles the hell out of me. Worse still, unless I'm mistaken, Jones hasn't even seen him play, so let's hope it doesn't blow up once Jones inevitably resigns him to the bench, or leaves him out of the matchday squad altogether.
30-09-2016, 07:36 AM
halo se7en

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Originally Posted by plague

I mean you asked a question about the Jets then you typed this sentence like you forgot for a second it was the Jets.

:rof: fair point
30-09-2016, 09:21 AM
Grimario

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Originally Posted by turbojetfireV8

how long till Ma actually arrives to join the team? we can't even assess how he looks on a training pitch at the moment, he didn't exactly feature prominently in any of the snippets from the tour, has he even got a highlights package??? :D

I'd take Mitchell's assessment as pretty damning whether we have seen him or not.
30-09-2016, 01:30 PM
The Dunster

So how is everyone doing chasing those refunds on their Jets memberships ?
30-09-2016, 01:45 PM
stopper2

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Originally Posted by hawk

whoa hold the phone there simon. 1 Chinese player isnt the big picture.

I can just grasp this terribly difficult concept but I cannot accept being held over a barrel again like we did with the fat fk in the unlikely event of getting a better financial model. There is no a guarantee of any success or financial well being. 1st we lost a pretty good coach and now our playing roster is being forced. What next?

Imo We will survive with or without chinese overlord. I find it difficult that supporters will tolerate this.

Speaking of the fat fk, yeah he went all out throwing $700k/season on Heskey, yeah the crowds and memberships spiked the first season but in the end what did we gain from it .....8th and 7th positions. I know it's kind off a little off topic but it's showing the other side of the coin; Heskey cost a lot of money for really no gain in the end....but no one is complaining, now we have a Chinese no-name who will probably be taking up bugger all of the salary cap but every is up in arms..."how dare Martin Lee do this" blah blah blah....if he contributes on the field=great, that's a bonus. If he doesn't, who cares, move on as probably 80% of our visa players are failures anyway.
Storm in a tea-cup.
The only problem I can envisage is If and I mean IF Martin Lee were to try to influence the coaching staffs decisions i.e pushing for Lei Lei to play if the coaching staff feel he is not worthy of playing....but hey lets worry about that IF it eventuates, no use beating ourselves up about it.
Peace brothers:cool:
30-09-2016, 01:53 PM
The Dunster

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Originally Posted by stopper2

Speaking of the fat fk, yeah he went all out throwing $700k/season on Heskey, yeah the crowds and memberships spiked the first season but in the end what did we gain from it .....8th and 7th positions. I know it's kind off a little off topic but it's showing the other side of the coin; Heskey cost a lot of money for really no gain in the end....but no one is complaining, now we have a Chinese no-name who will probably be taking up bugger all of the salary cap but every is up in arms..."how dare Martin Lee do this" blah blah blah....if he contributes on the field=great, that's a bonus. If he doesn't, who cares, move on as probably 80% of our visa players are failures anyway.
Storm in a tea-cup.
The only problem I can envisage is If and I mean IF Martin Lee were to try to influence the coaching staffs decisions i.e pushing for Lei Lei to play if the coaching staff feel he is not worthy of playing....but hey lets worry about that IF it eventuates, no use beating ourselves up about it.
Peace brothers:cool:

But that's exactly what he did in Portugal. He wanted teams to guarantee in writing - starting positions to Chinese players regardless of their ability.
Heskey was great for the Jets. He did here what he does everywhere he brings out the best in the team mates around him. Let's see how well Taggart does at Perth without Heskey's support.
Our new Chinese signing has absolutely no legitimate footballing pedigree. He's not even a bloke who used to be good but had a few bad years and is rebuilding. No, this blokes totally ****ing useless and would struggle to make the bench at Edgeworth.
A visa spot is for a player who has skill and ability not available within local talent pools - otherwise it is a waste of money.
30-09-2016, 01:57 PM
Grimario

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Originally Posted by The Dunster

But that's exactly what he did in Portugal. He wanted teams to guarantee in writing - starting positions to Chinese players regardless of their ability.
Heskey was great for the Jets. He did here what he does everywhere he brings out the best in the team mates around him. Let's see how well Taggart does at Perth without Heskey's support.
Our new Chinese signing has absolutely no legitimate footballing pedigree. He's not even a bloke who used to be good but had a few bad years and is rebuilding. No, this blokes totally ****ing useless and would struggle to make the bench at Edgeworth.

Taggart for golden boot confirmed.
30-09-2016, 01:59 PM
The Dunster

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Originally Posted by Grimario

Taggart for golden boot confirmed.

Very possible now that I've put the kiss of death on myself.
30-09-2016, 02:02 PM
stopper2

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Originally Posted by The Dunster

But that's exactly what he did in Portugal. He wanted teams to guarantee in writing - starting positions to Chinese players regardless of their ability.
Heskey was great for the Jets. He did here what he does everywhere he brings out the best in the team mates around him. Let's see how well Taggart does at Perth without Heskey's support.
Our new Chinese signing has absolutely no legitimate footballing pedigree. He's not even a bloke who used to be good but had a few bad years and is rebuilding. No, this blokes totally ****ing useless and would struggle to make the bench at Edgeworth.
A visa spot is for a player who has skill and ability not available within local talent pools - otherwise it is a waste of money.

That's rubbish Dunster as Taggart scored many If not the majority of his goals (would be good if someone could verify this) when Heskey was out injured for much of the season!
Heskey was a waste of money and anyone who denies this is plainly delusional or just a fan boi.
30-09-2016, 02:12 PM
The Dunster

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Originally Posted by stopper2

That's rubbish Dunster as Taggart scored many If not the majority of his goals (would be good if someone could verify this) when Heskey was out injured for much of the season!
Heskey was a waste of money and anyone who denies this is plainly delusional or just a fan boi.

Heskey would have done a lot for Taggart off the pitch as well.

And what's this fan boi shit - are you ten years old ?

Besides, I'm an Adelaide supporter.
30-09-2016, 02:46 PM
hawk

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Originally Posted by stopper2

Peace brothers:cool:

:rof:

When the new owner came in there was alway going to be plenty of hypothesising and strong views in every direction.

I dont mind seeing all this off season shenens but im ready for the season to start to see where we really are at.
30-09-2016, 02:48 PM
Jeterpool

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Originally Posted by stopper2

That's rubbish Dunster as Taggart scored many If not the majority of his goals (would be good if someone could verify this) when Heskey was out injured for much of the season!
Heskey was a waste of money and anyone who denies this is plainly delusional or just a fan boi.

Hello

They played together 32 times. They started 16 matches together. They scored 11 goals in those 16 matches.

I've not got the time to go through and determine whether they scoed when the other was on the ptich etc.

Also, 9 of those goals came in the last 9 matches of the 2nd season Heskey was here, funnily enough under Clayton Zane. It leads me to think Zane found a way to play the two of them together effectively.

Oh, and 8 of Taggart's 18 goals were scored when Heskey wasn't on the pitch - and I went through and worked out the subs with that.
30-09-2016, 02:53 PM
joel31

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Originally Posted by The Dunster

So how is everyone doing chasing those refunds on their Jets memberships ?

Didn't renew. Might get a 3 game membership
30-09-2016, 05:16 PM
GazFish35

So assuming he's close to minimum wage the $64,000 question is can Lei Lei play play?

I'm more concerned about Kokko and his boo boo from training when the gaffer said no no.

I'll get my hat.
30-09-2016, 05:23 PM
Jeterpool

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Originally Posted by GazFish35

So assuming he's close to minimum wage the $64,000 question is can Lei Lei play play?

I'm more concerned about Kokko and his boo boo from training when the gaffer said no no.

I'll get my hat.

Bye bye
01-10-2016, 11:35 AM
stopper2

I agree mate, Heskey looked most effective playing deeper in behind Taggz when Zane took over
You have come up with some interesting stats but to break it down if Taggz scored 8 goals from 18 games without Heskey, that's a strike-rate of 0.44,
with Heskey he scored 10 goals from 26 games....which gives a strike-rate of 0.38. Pretty sure that would indicate that he had a slighltly better strike-rate without "Heskey's support"....as Dunster would put it.
Fact is, Taggz had a great breakout season that year, winning the golden boot in a team that came 7th, in my opinion Heskey's influence was minimal in this feat.
01-10-2016, 11:42 AM
Jetmaster

Thing with Taggz is he could just be a one season wonder. Did nothing before or since. Will be very interesting to see how he goes this season.
I said at the time another season here would be of benefit but like Beard had a manager promosing riches.
01-10-2016, 01:12 PM
turbojetfireV8

Taggart benefitted a lot from GVE's paedo philosophy of only keeping his eyes on the young'ns most likely...
01-10-2016, 03:02 PM
Couscous

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Originally Posted by turbojetfireV8

Taggart benefitted a lot from GVE's paedo philosophy of only keeping his eyes on the young'ns most likely...

Wow.
04-10-2016, 05:40 PM
Tommyjet

Wonder why its taking so longbto announce our chinese superstar signing, visa issues?
05-10-2016, 06:00 AM
turbojetfireV8

...or that he only just signed with another team 1 July this year and suddenly is supposed to sign with us instead - does that mean we have to pay a half million euro transfer for him??? ;)
05-10-2016, 06:35 PM
baldrick

Looks like we might be looking for an injury replacement keeper..

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Newcastle Jets regret to advise its Members, supporters and media that experienced custodian Ben Kennedy sustained an injury to his Achilles tendon at training on Wednesday.
The shot-stopper saw a specialist and had scans late this afternoon.

The Club will provide further information regarding the extent of the injury when it is known.

http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/arti...i1ln5t12f84rki
05-10-2016, 06:51 PM
lquiquer

Bring back Birraz on loan......He will never play for Swansea.....
05-10-2016, 07:51 PM
Jeterpool

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Originally Posted by baldrick

Looks like we might be looking for an injury replacement keeper..

http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/arti...i1ln5t12f84rki

If the club are making formal statements like this it says to me this isn't a couple of weeks type injury
05-10-2016, 08:20 PM
plague

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Originally Posted by Jeterpool

If the club are making formal statements like this it says to me this isn't a couple of weeks type injury

id say 6-8
05-10-2016, 08:22 PM
rhysd

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Originally Posted by Jeterpool

If the club are making formal statements like this it says to me this isn't a couple of weeks type injury

Achilles tendon rupture I would imagine if they have gone to this length in covering it. Long road back and such a killer blow especially coming into his final year of his contract.

Hope it is not as bad as feared, for his sake anyway.
05-10-2016, 10:08 PM
OmeletteDuFromage

I reckon **** Ma Lei Lei off, get some shit Chinese GK on f all coin, and throw some decent money at a good aussie outfield player.
06-10-2016, 12:25 PM
The Camel

If BK is gone for the season I would like a local NPL keeper to potentially get a gig. Danny Ireland would be my choice but even Fogerty has done well for Edgy
06-10-2016, 12:29 PM
Jeterpool

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Originally Posted by The Camel

If BK is gone for the season I would like a local NPL keeper to potentially get a gig. Danny Ireland would be my choice but even Fogerty has done well for Edgy

If it's an achillies tendon rupture, Dr Google says it's a 6-8 weeks recovery.

Anyone had this injury before that can shed some light on it?
06-10-2016, 12:30 PM
The Dunster

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Originally Posted by The Camel

If BK is gone for the season I would like a local NPL keeper to potentially get a gig. Danny Ireland would be my choice but even Fogerty has done well for Edgy

Why not just bring in an entire NPL roster and use the money we save to build a fleet of paddle steamers ?

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Originally Posted by OmeletteDuFromage

I reckon **** Ma Lei Lei off, get some shit Chinese GK on f all coin, and throw some decent money at a good aussie outfield player.

This. Excellent idea.
06-10-2016, 12:37 PM
baldrick

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Originally Posted by Jeterpool

If it's an achillies tendon rupture, Dr Google says it's a 6-8 weeks recovery.

Anyone had this injury before that can shed some light on it?

I've not done my Achilles,but know people who have. They've had months in a boot, then a long period of rehab after that.

That said, the club haven't announced the type of BK's on injury just yet
06-10-2016, 12:40 PM
The Dunster

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Originally Posted by baldrick

I've not done my Achilles,but know people who have. They've had months in a boot, then a long period of rehab after that.

That said, the club haven't announced the type of BK's on injury just yet

Sounds about right.

I did mine in 1978 and it still plays up. Options are better now days but for an elite athlete like Bk it's a big worry.

The 6-8 weeks estimate from google is very optimistic given you would have at least that long out of action - then would need to get the power / strength / conditioning you lost. Add to that the mental side of things and lack of confidence in pushing off from the injured side - I'm going to guess his season might be over.
06-10-2016, 12:44 PM
lil_masi

Covic?
06-10-2016, 12:51 PM
Jetmaster

If it's snapped (like Kisnorbo for example) it's season ending. It is an obvious injury though and need immediate surgery so that would have been confirmed without scans.

Let's hope it is just a tear or similar which would be the 6-8 weeks.
06-10-2016, 01:03 PM
The Camel

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Originally Posted by Jeterpool

If it's an achillies tendon rupture, Dr Google says it's a 6-8 weeks recovery.

Anyone had this injury before that can shed some light on it?

Rhys Williams ruptured his and was out for over a year. Can be a horrific injury to come back from. Depends on the extent I guess
06-10-2016, 02:01 PM
plague

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Originally Posted by The Camel

Fogerty has done well for Edgy

wait, is this the guy in goals for the GF?
06-10-2016, 02:47 PM
matty

bk gone for the season

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