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03-07-2016, 04:26 AM
baldrick

Because City did exactly the same thing with Anthony Caceres last season.
03-07-2016, 12:39 PM
Jetmaster

They are apparently bringing Luke Brattan in as well.
03-07-2016, 01:57 PM
MFKS

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Originally Posted by baldrick

Because City did exactly the same thing with Anthony Caceres last season.

Yep and that was an elaborate plan to circumvent the rule that you can't sign rival HAL players

So your telling me this is an elaborate plot just so Heart can sign their own player??
03-07-2016, 02:43 PM
The Dunster

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Originally Posted by MFKS

Explain to me why Mooy will be playing in the HAL??

If the plan was for him to play for Heart then why he sign for Man City??

Being Heart are owned by City if the plan is to push his development along then nothing stopping him heading to Manchester and training with City. Being the HAL doesn't start until October he could skip Heart pre season and just train with Man City until then

Why go to the hassle of transfering him to Man City only to loan him back??

Up until a few days ago they had him as a Marquee and could pay him as much as they want and could also bring in the 3rd Marquee due to the rule change

I will offer he has only been moved to Man City with the express intention of having him train at City for a bit before getting loaned out to someone with the intention of getting a Transfer Fee for him

Reality is Aaron Mooy of Man City goes for much more money than Aaron Mooy of Melbourne Heart when a Euro Club offers coin.
This move is just a restructuring of assets for the City Group to maximise profit

The bloke ain't playing EPL under Pep and he ain't coming back to Heart this year.
A year or two proving he can do it in Europe and the City Group get more coin for his transfer

The bloke has just been used as a pawn by City to exploit this 3rd Marquee rule that has come in.
Heart will not be bringing him back. They will bring Timmy In and use him as the Aussie Marquee not as a Guest Player.. The guest player Heart will bring in will be a Foreigner

That way they are getting 2 Foreign Marquee and 1 Aussie Marquee in Timmy

The truth is out there

This was just as an elaborate con job by City

I'm sensing the Member hasn't had an empty out for awhile. Might have to pass the hat around the forum and get him hooked up at a short stay hotel.
03-07-2016, 03:12 PM
MFKS

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Originally Posted by The Dunster

I'm sensing the Member hasn't had an empty out for awhile. Might have to pass the hat around the forum and get him hooked up at a short stay hotel.

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03-07-2016, 04:22 PM
furns

Mooy will be loaned out in Europe next season, he won't be playing for Melbourne unless he is still unable to find a suitable club.
Cahill will be signed as their guest player, rumors are City already have another marquee lined up and are waiting to announce them both.
03-07-2016, 04:42 PM
MFKS

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Originally Posted by furns

Mooy will be loaned out in Europe next season, he won't be playing for Melbourne unless he is still unable to find a suitable club.
Cahill will be signed as their guest player, rumors are City already have another marquee lined up and are waiting to announce them both.

See there you go....

Everything you say is bang on except for the bit about Mooy playing in Melbourne this season

As soon as Timmy signs and as soon as they announce the other Marquee/Guest Player bit any hope of Mooy coming back is over until the 4th Marquee thing gets up
03-07-2016, 07:28 PM
tomo

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Originally Posted by MFKS

See there you go....

Everything you say is bang on except for the bit about Mooy playing in Melbourne this season

As soon as Timmy signs and as soon as they announce the other Marquee/Guest Player bit any hope of Mooy coming back is over until the 4th Marquee thing gets up

I agree with u and furns 100%. Mooy will be playing in Europe. But if things didnt turn out the way he wanted, theres nothing stopping Melbourne loaning Mooy back with Manchester paying the wages, therefore, they get another "Marquee" player for nothing!
05-07-2016, 08:31 AM
MFKS

Former Smurfs player Chris Naumoff has announced his retirement with immediate effect at the age of 21

After signing for a Spanish 2nd division side routine medical discovered heart issue.the type that sees athletes drop dead in the game

Commiserations to the bloke

Does though leave some serious questions about the medical staff at Smurfs how they could miss it and how competent their procedures are
05-07-2016, 09:27 AM
Jeterpool

Quote:

Originally Posted by MFKS

Former Smurfs player Chris Naumoff has announced his retirement with immediate effect at the age of 21

After signing for a Spanish 2nd division side routine medical discovered heart issue.the type that sees athletes drop dead in the game

Commiserations to the bloke

Does though leave some serious questions about the medical staff at Smurfs how they could miss it and how competent their procedures are

He played for Australian Youth teams as well. I wonder if such tests were conducted on him there as well?

I'm sure he's feeling pretty bad about things at the moment but there are obvious positives for him which will become more apparent.
05-07-2016, 02:00 PM
weston

Devastating for him but also a relief. Could of been the next unexpected fatality on the football field (not that any are expected).

Questions should be asked around all of Australia whether at club or international level on procedures to test for this kind of stuff. Did Bernardo Ribeiro have some sort of condition that could of been picked up before his tragedy? I don't know but it's a serious issue and needs to be looked into.
05-07-2016, 02:26 PM
MFKS

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Originally Posted by weston

Devastating for him but also a relief. Could of been the next unexpected fatality on the football field (not that any are expected).

Questions should be asked around all of Australia whether at club or international level on procedures to test for this kind of stuff. Did Bernardo Ribeiro have some sort of condition that could of been picked up before his tragedy? I don't know but it's a serious issue and needs to be looked into.

Forgot about him

Being he played for a dysfunctional club like us no great surprise really.

I though am concerned Smurfs FC screening process was this bad. It ain't like our health care system is 3rd world.

It must work some of the time as it picked up Vidmar and prevented him going to a WC

That being said it is baffling how Ribiero and Naumoff can go undetected in this day and age by Aussie clubs
05-07-2016, 02:28 PM
The Dunster

Quote:

Originally Posted by MFKS

Former Smurfs player Chris Naumoff has announced his retirement with immediate effect at the age of 21

After signing for a Spanish 2nd division side routine medical discovered heart issue.the type that sees athletes drop dead in the game

Commiserations to the bloke

Does though leave some serious questions about the medical staff at Smurfs how they could miss it and how competent their procedures are

It's not economically viable to test everyone and the types of problems and the tests required to detect them are numerous and often expensive.

Has nothing to do with people being incompetent and so on.
There is also issues about the risks involved in testing otherwise healthy people using radiation and so on in search of things they more than likely do not suffer from.
05-07-2016, 05:16 PM
RAM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dunster

It's not economically viable to test everyone and the types of problems and the tests required to detect them are numerous and often expensive.

Has nothing to do with people being incompetent and so on.
There is also issues about the risks involved in testing otherwise healthy people using radiation and so on in search of things they more than likely do not suffer from.

2 tests required - not much in the scheme of things.
05-07-2016, 09:42 PM
MFKS

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dunster

It's not economically viable to test everyone and the types of problems and the tests required to detect them are numerous and often expensive.

Has nothing to do with people being incompetent and so on.
There is also issues about the risks involved in testing otherwise healthy people using radiation and so on in search of things they more than likely do not suffer from.

So it is economically viable for clubs in the Spanish second division but it isn't for A League clubs.

Professional clubs take care of their product. By not being able to look after players with tests that for Professional clubs around the world consider mandatory then we look pretty amatuer
05-07-2016, 10:07 PM
The Dunster

Quote:

Originally Posted by MFKS

So it is economically viable for clubs in the Spanish second division but it isn't for A League clubs.

Professional clubs take care of their product. By not being able to look after players with tests that for Professional clubs around the world consider mandatory then we look pretty amatuer

Sorry Member I forgot that you specialized in epidemiology. Carry on.
05-07-2016, 10:08 PM
lquiquer

Medicare pays $219 for outpatient echocardiogram (ultrasound / no radiation) and about prob $30 for ECG. If Medicare decline to cover it would cost the club about $6000 to test 24 players. Keep in mind players only need to be tested once... Ribeiro would still be with us.....
05-07-2016, 10:24 PM
MFKS

Quote:

Originally Posted by lquiquer

Medicare pays $219 for outpatient echocardiogram (ultrasound / no radiation) and about prob $30 for ECG. If Medicare decline to cover it would cost the club about $6000 to test 24 players. Keep in mind players only need to be tested once... Ribeiro would still be with us.....

So there you go Dunster $250 per player that's going via Medicare FFS

You would think that these clubs would have some degree of medical insurance on their players also

Surely a figure these clubs in this country can afford

Surely something the leaders at the PFA should be making mandatory in part of their next lit of negotiations when ripping the clubs off
05-07-2016, 10:49 PM
plague

But then do you do cancer scans? Melanoma checks? Brain scans for CTE?
It's easy to say one particular test would save lives but so would a bunch of others how thorough do you want clubs to be ("just thorough enough to prevent every single issue" says Member).

Rightly or wrongly I guess clubs just expect your ticker is ok if you're young and fit.
05-07-2016, 10:53 PM
MFKS

Quote:

Originally Posted by plague

But then do you do cancer scans? Melanoma checks? Brain scans for CTE?
It's easy to say one particular test would save lives but so would a bunch of others how thorough do you want clubs to be ("just thorough enough to prevent every single issue" says Member).

Rightly or wrongly I guess clubs just expect your ticker is ok if you're young and fit.

I just thinking all our players should have their hearts checked so we not endure more gutless performances from them

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