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http://www.theherald.com.au/story/49...wedown/?cs=306
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Love the bit where Boogaard says we coughing up easy goals etcQuote:
Originally Posted by turbojetfireV8
No mirrors where he is??
He said "we".Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Man, you have it in for this guy don't you!Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
What do you want him to say? " Ihave been letting in easy goals"? As average or shit as you may think he is, he is still part of a team! A team wins together and loses together...
Come Thursday, Smurfs will know if they have a stadium for a few years or have to play out of Leichardt or something.
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/t...16-gz1wau.html
I think the 3 goals we conceded are down to himQuote:
Originally Posted by leftrightout
First one that corner the Gypos scored off
Your centre half clears that cross
First one glory got you marking Taggart you blocking his shot or stopping him shooting
Second one that is Boogaard ball to win in the air
As an experienced campaigner and our captain he needs to be doing much much better
The money we paying him is also drastically disproportionate to his actual worth to the side
So he needs to be performing and when he not I going to call him on it
Next season he should be first out the door. Get a foreign CBQuote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Whilst Boogard is partly to blame I think he's coping a fair bit of stick. He made too excellent tackles in the box this game and last game and him and Topor have looked fairly competent both along the ground and in the air. We seem to struggle with runners coming from deep. It hasn't only been the CB fault but also the CDMs picking up and tracking their runners. Ugarkovic has been sub par by his standards this year. Was caught wrong side by the coast goal albeit a slight deflection helped. I still think we are one quality midfielder short of being a very good side.
This is pretty much what i was getting at.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilso8948
Boogard has not been good enough, particularly as he is on good $$$$. In saying that to blame him for all 3 goals we have conceded is a bit of a stretch.
Take the goals from the weekend and break them down.
Goal no.1 on the weekend, how on earth in such tight space did we allow castro to knock a cross in like he did? It should have been so easily defended out wide. We actually had 3 defenders on 2 attackers in the very corner yet he gets the cross in.
Goal no.2 on the weekend, midfield giving the opposition space followed by an absolutely amateur clearance lead to a huge amount of space and time in a wide area to get the cross right for Taggart. Do you think with less time and space (ie pressure) the cross may have been no where near as good and therefore not effective.
This doesn't mean Boogard escapes criticism as he could have perhaps done better to track his man and prevent or just pressure the shots, but why is it only him thats to blame?
Basically who is more to blame, the slack defending on the goal scorer or the slack defending on the final pass?
I don't really know how to blame one person more than the other
The slack defending on the final pass and the failed clearance before it were what allowed the 2nd Goal. Once the cross was into the box I think it's unfair to blame Boogs - especially when Taggart is running onto the ball which gives him a massive advantage.
whole team went to sleep for both goals IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by leftrightout
Does every goal have to have someone to blame? Can there never be a goal that's simply a result of quality play?
Not when it comes to the Jets... Come on Jeterpool, everyone knows no one scores good goals against us, its always because we are shit. Even when we are good we are shit! :deadhorse::deadhorse::deadhorse::deadhorse:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
There were 5 of them in Round 1..Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
I thought you would be able to quote figures on this one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
Of course there is good quality play (and the cross and finish for the first goal were excellent), but the defending was poor. Taggart made a run across 2 central defenders (over 5 metres) and neither were aware/fast enough to track him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
2nd goal Boogard just wasn't aware of Taggarts run, but again, good finish.
So I would say the goals on the weekend were a combination of good play and less than stellar defending.
Boogard would know it though, and seems like the kind of fella that will be burning inside set it right this weekend. At least we look like we might score goals at the other end this year.
I'd just make it up like all the stuff I put in the match previews.:whistling:Quote:
Originally Posted by sammydog
The cross into the box for the 2nd Perth goal was excellent because the Jets failed to close down the man with the ball. If they put more pressure on the player with the ball Taggart would not have received such a high quality cross in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by idontwannaplaywithhowey
It was unfortunate to concede in the 92nd minute but we also had two very good opportunities ourselves where we didn't score as well.
Teams going well, room for improvement and all - but compared to last season we look like Barcelona.
More importantly Ernie knows what he's doing. He took two players off on Sunday because they were cramping and he didn't want them to risk calf injuries as they can take six weeks or so to mend.
In the past our coaches would have let players continue until they required a stretcher.
Then you have the clubs engagement with the fans and free ticket offer... The clubs doing well why do we have to keep looking for faults within it ?
My engagement in this conversations was solely in response to the goals conceded and the suggestion that maybe we couldn't attach any blame to our players for them. I feel they could have been defended better, that's my only point.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
But I certainly take the point that on the whole, the club and the fans have been stuck in a mire of negativity for so long that maybe we don't know how to be happy. We aren't going to go from a shambles to top of the league overnight, but I agree with every point you have made regarding the team, coach and club as a whole doing some really positive things.
nah, griff's retired now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
geez, poor Lowey just dancing round the topic til the first flogging comes then i gather hes calling for the return of his boy Jonesy.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbojetfireV8
That second goalQuote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
Quality touch from Taggart to give Duncan no chance
But
But
But
Why was he able to have a free header ??
If Boogaard is up competing for the ball with him and he gets that finish away then just have to take your hat off to him
But when the bloke is unmarked and not put under any pressure then questions are entitled to be asked
It piss poor form to be so careless from our central defenders in the 91st minute when you defending a lead
You can gap on about poor clearances and lack of pressure on the bloke crossing the ball
But
But
But
There is never any excuse for not having pressure on someone where Taggart was on the pitch
Never ever an excuse for not being near your man and pressurising the shit out of him
Never ever acceptable so stop tolerating it
No one is tolerating it, everyone has acknowledged that Boogard made an error or could have done better. It's not good enough from someone like him, instead you seem to tolerate other issues that lead up to the goals as they are not players you have an obvious bias against.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
In the end, we are a mid table (at best) team in the A-League, if you expect no mistakes or errors or poor judgement then you are delusional!
When Topor ****s up he will cop it tooQuote:
Originally Posted by leftrightout
The lack of pressure and the poor clearance are minor minor issues that need addressing
The lack of pressure in our box marking their striker is an urgent issue that should never be happening
So far this season we have for 95% of the time defended well
The rest of the time our defending has been well below par for this level or any level of professional football for that matter
So far this season we have a penchant for needlessly conceeding corners far too often
We have looked poor at defending corners with Topor and Boogaard in the side I struggle to understand why this is do
Our keeper makes things worse by his reluctance to dominate his six yard box so that now every team is going to ping every corner into our 6 yard box until we get our shit together
The other issue is we been extremely slack at times dropping off the concentration levels for little reason
We also show signs of being exposed for pace at some point though so far we have gotten away with it
You think I being harsh??
I just calling what is there
Yeah but if we start to prevent crosses it will solve half the issues with poor markingQuote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
So we going to cut out 100% of crosses??Quote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
Probably not
How we going to cut out corners being crossed into the box??
You expecting the bloke on the mark 10 yards away to cut them all out??
How about we focus on the bit we can do which is mark our opposition tighly when in our penalty box ??
Because that what the really good teams do
and that is a massive improvement to where we're been for the 5 or more yrs.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftrightout
One van Egmond who is welcome back (sorry Couscous :rof: )
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/50...-jets/?cs=2439
Funny I read that now, I spotted her having lunch at Warners Bay today and wondered if she was in town for something like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbojetfireV8
Hopefully the women can do well, to have both teams doing well and playing entertaining football, and building on the popularity of the Matilda's, they should hopefully only add to the crowd numbers as there are a few double headers this year.
Quote:
Originally Posted by turbojetfireV8
Couscous prob still conducting tactical sessions in cafe's in the nations capitol.
crazy aunty van egmond is still the most woke van egmond around and is welcome in these streets anytime.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbojetfireV8
also, ffs can we get a better photo of Emily than a ball smacking her in the mush?
and no im not talking bikini shot but theres prob a zillion photos of her actually playing football that could maybe be better.
Bert talking up Roar challenge
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/50...record/?cs=306
forgot to look for this
http://www.nbnnews.com.au/2017/10/18...-show-round-3/
Herald on Vargas injury
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/50...-vargas/?cs=12
Herald match review
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/50...injury/?cs=306
https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/new...-ronald-vargas
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The Newcastle Jets can confirm that Ronald Vargas has undergone surgery in Brisbane last night, following a broken and dislocated ankle sustained in the club’s Round 3 clash with the Roar.The incident, which saw the Venezuelan international tangle awkwardly with Matt MacKay in the 58thminute of the fixture, has left the club and the league in shock.
Jets’ boss, Ernie Merrick said the club’s medical team had moved quickly to ensure Ronald would receive the best possible care.
“We actually had one of Brisbane’s best surgeons, Dr Jeremy Bartlett sitting in the stands and he came down straight after the incident to help safely manage Ron’s ankle,” said Merrick.
“In consultation with Dr Neil Halpin, who was already on the phone from Newcastle, Dr Bartlett left the game and operated on Ron immediately and we can’t thank him enough for his efforts.
“This was a terrible accident and we’re all feeling for Ron, but it was no ones fault.”
Following his surgery, it’s expected that Ronald will fly back to Newcastle with teammates today to begin his road to recovery.
“The report from the surgeon has been positive at this stage, but with such a significant injury there are a lot of unknowns – Ron will recuperate and we’ll begin planning his rehabilitation.
“At this stage, we’re really not sure what a timeline for his return looks like, but we’d expect that he’ll be unavailable for most of the season.
Merrick said the coaching staff and the players would be with Ronald through every step of his rehabilitation.
“As you could see yesterday, the players and the staff have been really affected by this injury,” he added.
“He may have only been here for a short time, but Ron has already made an impression on all of us and that speaks to the quality of the guy – we’ll all be there to support him throughout his recovery.
“The outpouring of support from across Newcastle and the wider footballing community has been amazing, we appreciate it and I have not doubt that Ron will feel the same.
“I’d also like to acknowledge the Brisbane Roar medical team and event staff for their assistance; the tireless work of our physio Justin Dougherty, who spent much of the evening with Ron, and Joel Griffiths for his ongoing support last night.”
The club will provide further details on Ronald’s injury once they are known.