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Originally Posted by Jeterpool
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Newcastle is not going to be used by League either (is this correct?)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
No idea. Can't say I've been following what the NRL have been planning or doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by mic22
NRL is playing in Sydney I believe
So MJ might be available too.
Talk of Newcastle as a possible part of the base for A-League restart
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MAY 6 2020 - 8:00AM
A-League: Newcastle Jets' base looms as part of return flight plan
Craig Kerry
Local Sport
Jets chief executive Lawrie McKinna believes Newcastle could become part of a wider hub, taking in the Central Coast and Sydney, for the A-League to be based to complete its season in August.
Football Federation Australia is aiming to finish the 2019-20 season, after a return to training in July, in line with predicted downgrades in COVID-19 restrictions.
The Jets beat second-placed Melbourne City 2-1 on March 23 at McDonald Jones Stadium in the last match played before the A-League was suspended because of the pandemic.
With 27 regular-season games remaining, the A-League is looking to follow the NRL in creating a hub base in NSW for teams to finish a condensed schedule of matches behind closed doors.
McKinna said preliminary plans were to complete the regular season in an 18-day window with finals to also be played inside of August.
Given the NRL's use of Sydney grounds in the same period, McKinna said McDonald Jones Stadium could host A-Leagues matches featuring teams other than the Jets.
"We don't know, because they said it could be one hub, it could be two hubs," McKinna said of early talks.
"It was very vague on Friday, but I would say that they would look at using our venue, the Central Coast's and Sydney venues as venues anyway."
Newcastle are ninth on 24 points, three points outside the top six, with four matches to play. Home matches against Wellington and Western United and away clashes with Central Coast and Sydney were part of the original draw but McKinna said that could change.
"They will not necessarily give us two home games, it will be just four games," he said.
"It could be double-headers here with us playing someone and maybe the Mariners playing someone else.
"They just want to get the outstanding league games played as soon as possible."
A new NRL draw is yet to be released, but McKinna believed there would be no problem sharing McDonald Jones Stadium with the Newcastle Knights during the hectic schedule.
McKinna was confident likely relaxation of travel restrictions would allow coaches Carl Robinson and Kenny Miller to return from overseas for training in July but he was unsure about the club's imports.
Joe Ledley and Bobby Burns have returned home but Wes Hoolahan and Abdiel Arroyo remain in Australia.
"Joe Ledley is back there now, Bobby Burns was out here on loan, so it's just if we can get them back out here for two months," he said.
"That's up in the air. But Joe only started one game and if Wes wasn't here, he only played a couple of games at the end so we are all right.
"Everybody else will be available, apart from a couple of boys at the moment. We'd be hopeful we could put a strong team out. Other teams will be in the same boat as us. Some don't have coaches here and some of their foreign players are gone."
The Jets are only three points outside the finals but their top-six rivals have games in hand.
McKinna believed Newcastle would be in good shape to make a late push.
"If you went off the last eight weeks, we'd be sitting second in the comp," he said.
"Us and Brisbane were the in-form teams but obviously everyone is going to be starting from scratch again.
"We're really happy with how the boys are going doing the self-training, so it will be really interesting how other teams have done. Some might not be as strict as others."
A-League player contracts finish at the end of May, meaning changes will need to be made to get the season on again in August.
"The PFA, FFA and the clubs will be starting talks this week, because that has to get looked at now," McKinna said.
"You could extend [contracts] or get new squads, but I would think the simplest thing is to extend by three months."
To snatch parts of the article...
https://www.ftbl.com.au/news/pfa-y-l...footbal-547814
Professional Footballers Australia (PFA) has declared that Australia’s premier youth competition – the Y-League – “does not meet the needs of the players, A-League clubs or Australian football,” in a new research study released on Wednesday morning.
Examining the past five years of the Y-League, which marks the time period in which it switched to its current format, the PFA tracked the career progression of over 700 players that have appeared in the competition and surveyed 110 youngsters to create the report - which follows on from their 2019 study examining the development of Australia's Golden Generation.
The report found the Academy of Western Sydney Wanderers sent the most players to the A-League, 25 youngsters moving into the Red and Black’s senior squad from the academy, closely followed by Adelaide United (24) and Melbourne City (22). Perth Glory (11) and Newcastle Jets (10) harvested the least from their academy setups whereas, despite closing following the 2016/17 season, the FFA CoE still sent 16 players to the A-League (albeit they needed to move to other clubs to be able to do so).
Seems like we'll have 3 home games once the season resumes, possibly with up to 8250 in attendance
Members only probably.Quote:
Originally Posted by mic22
That seems reasonableQuote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
They should let the people who attend the most home games. Go first. Reward the most loyal
Don’t know if it’s like the EPL where there can track stuff like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
But makes sense to reward long term members. And maybe a random allocation for others if there are proper restrictions still by the time the season resumes.... in 2021
At the moment I think they could probably stick with people that are interested in going.
[QUOTE=StannyCFCJET;239296]They should let the people who attend the most home games. Go first. Reward the most loyal[/QUOTE
That would be the members, They pay up to attend all home games ?.
[QUOTE=380;239298]Yeah but do all members attend most games?Quote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
Off course not, Whats your point ?.
Are you suggesting season ticket holders/members should miss out to people who don't ?. Pretty absurd reasoning to prioritize non members over paid up members.
Think about it for a moment but it pretty stupid if you attend more games than a member and to not purchase membership don't ya reckon ?.
I think Stanny is perhaps referencing how a lot of EPL clubs do it for big games.
So for example, Liverpool vs Everton derby games go on sale and there is additional criteria to purchase tickets. Eg must have attended at least 16 home games, and UCL games last season.
Or for like an FA cup final, the criteria may be, must have attended all previous FA Cup games.
Basically gives priority to those that are attending all the games, no matter how big or small.
Then the criteria gets lessened as tickets are still available.
Eventually tickets go on general sale with no criteria.
In reality, I don’t think that works here, we aren’t that big.
Absolutely right you are but this is just a resumption of the season and any suggestion to allow people to attend over members who purchased there ticket 6 months ago is just poorly thought through.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
Iv'e been complaining about members rights for years now, both here and the Herald but nothing changes. I wouldn't be surprised if all the tickets went to NNSW dickheads and cronies, and sponsors cronies who never go to a regular game.
Agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by 380
Surely it would only be members/sponsors.
Yeah but give it to the members who turn up. Not the ones with memberships but don't attend. We have 12k members but never 12k crowdsQuote:
Originally Posted by 380
IMO the club should reward those ticket holders top down ( keeping in mind i am a GA pensioner so i would be at the very ass end of this preference proposal ). Tickets for entry in the following order
Sponsors and there usual allocation
Gold
Silver
Red Blue ( Me )
Platinum wherever the hell that fits in.
Once all the top groups are covered for tickets then ballot the rest, Have a standby list once past 8250. All those from the top groups have up til 48hrs before kick off to advise the club if they will have any no shows so those unused tickets can be offered to the standby list. Any of those unused tickets from the upper categories where the club was not informed and given the opportunity to redistribute that particular allocation then the club should tell them they forfeit that seat for the next game and will go into the GA ballot.
I have no problem with missing out to somebody who pays more than me, If i have to miss out to somebody paying 3 to 4 times my membership cost but i still get to sit at home watch my team hear and see a real crowd on the Fox broadcast i can live with that for the few remaining games.
Yeah but if it shows that higher spender rarely attends games should they still get priority?Quote:
Originally Posted by 380
Unfortunately money makes the world go round.
Sponsors pay a premium and expect to be looked after.
If they aren’t, they take their cash elsewhere and club misses out.
Not saying it’s right or wrong, just how things work.
Geez your a bit anal about all this. The club is going to have to come up with a way of dealing with this in a not so perfect environment, You got a better way then post it here.Quote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
I have to to trust that those with higher cost membership do the right thing and advise the club they will not be attending thus allowing that opportunity to a GA. After all we are all supporters of the club and want what is best for it all BS and banter aside.
I don't want to see the club burn its highest souces of revenue do you ?, They clearly struggle in this area season after season as it is.
As long as its members and not seldoms i can live with it for 3 games.
Like i said feel free to post how you would do it.
They struggled to reach 8250 without any restriction before the interruption... members or not.
I don't really see a problem here, there won't be much demand for tickets imo.
But it makes sense to prioritise members, since they have already paid!
But then, watch the attendance of max 5000...
This....the simple thing is members only, first come first served. I doubt we would get the full 8250 anyway. If the crowd is 5000 so be it....its more than we expected anyway. You can't have casuals (or away fans for that matter...pseudo Gypo ban) milling around for a ticket. Games will be to close together to organise ballots etcQuote:
Originally Posted by mic22
This said, the club could use some extra $$$
If they could know how many members are not going to attend, they could make the seats available on ticketmaster - first come first serve basis.
Even if it's just 500-1000 tix, why not?
That won't work i don't think, If by some chance more turn up at the gate than allowed in who wants the job of telling people to walk back to there cars and head on home. The club could not possibly leave it to chance that the limited number or less will only show at the gates.Quote:
Originally Posted by mic22
The club had measures in place to control the size of crowds - but now with Jackson out injured they need a new plan.
At least the scum down the road will not need to worry about it, They have had plenty of practice in recent years at limiting there crowds.
:lulzturtle:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
https://www.theguardian.com/football...ue-grand-final
pay deal agreed. 16 July restart, 27 matches, 1 week of finals. All done by August 31.
Only problem is that Fox haven't agreed to it yet.
Getting ahead of myself I know, but I’m curious to see how our 20/21 season looks. This season started on October 11.
Do they then have a shortened off season? And kick off a shorter season in December?
Or just consider this period of time the players “annual leave”, have a month of transfer madness and kick off early November?
Interesting the ramifications this will have on the next season and perhaps the season after that.
Winter league! Yassss!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
Why complicate things? Leave as is....most will get 6 weeks off. This is like players going to World Cup or Euro tournaments in an off season. They have already had 2 months off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
Would love it apart from one important thing.....Quote:
Winter league! Yassss!!!!!
https://nnimgt-a.akamaihd.net/transf..._h678_fmax.jpg
So like, finish in the 31st August and begin the new Comp a week later?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
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Originally Posted by Jetmaster
Meh, now is as good a time as any to get away from that place. McDonald Jones stadium, or whatever it's called this week, has never felt like a home ground to me. We lease it from the knights* each year and get 5th billing behind anyone else who wants to trash the thing during their off season without having any say. We really need to move to a much smaller stadium and only use the place when we really need to. We need to convince local government to approve a remodel of the Gardens, greyhound racing can be moved easily and the local area can justify having two large stadiums (a smaller 10k-15k Gardens and a 30k main one).
Now, we all know it won't happen but if Mr Lee wants to make us appealing to sell having an actual home stadium that we have autonomy over would make a huge difference to an overseas buyer. Plus, games would be so much better in front of a much tighter packed 10k fans. We'd have the one of the best grounds in the league instantly.
*of course we don't actually pay the knights, but you know what i mean.
The old days at the Gardens were great but it was a prick of a joint to get to.
Would love our own boutique 15k stadium (I do think 10k would be a little small), but how and where? No2, Maitland, Speers Point, Gardens, Hexham Swamp?
I've always felt No.2 is the way to go if we could develop it to be an all-seater set up like Hindmarsh - Rugby would probably have something to say about it but f#@k 'em.
Restart 16 july. Still talking with fox about broadcast arrangements.
https://www.theguardian.com/football...e-for-a-league
It already has room for 3 more stands to be built, we could slowly increase capacity whilst already playing out of there. But, if getting out to the Gardens is rough imagine trying to sort out parking at No 2?Quote:
Originally Posted by evolution
But, I really hope we are putting serious thoughts/efforts into eventually moving into our own stadium. The A league is a while away from needing 30k stadiums each week for anything other than the Sydney & Melbourne derbies and finals.