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Don't you think?Quote:
Originally Posted by namwob99
Ill expect to never be sent off again because there's been worse tackles made. Also I shouldn't get done for speeding going ten over because someone once went 20 over. Everyone's entitled to an opinion yeah youre right but if a magic player did that same tackle to a gunners player say last year you'd have a different one I'm 100% certain.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
I wouldn't expect that from a magic player
Although he's been off the past few seasons, I've seen Peter Haynes score a number of goals from outside the box. But I agree, hasn't been too many other players to do it consistently.Quote:
Originally Posted by spamg172
As far as A league goes, I'll always be impressed by the hattrick of goals that Taggart scored; all bombs from outside the box against Melbournt heart a few years back.
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Originally Posted by monz6
Gee whiz FR.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
I have seen much worse than that tackle too but you really are wrong if you think that tackle is not too bad.
It a blatant hack on a player from behind with far too much aggression on a needless cause.
Was more side on imo....not from behind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilso8948
Who cares, no one got hurt, the ref dealt with it, I'm more concerned with cheats pulling shirts etc etc and nothing being done, I'd rather see a good solid tackle then a shirt pull
That's what she said!Quote:
Originally Posted by RAM
Hey I agree with the shirt pulling being policed.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
I also happy to see good solid tackles. That tackle though ain't a good solid tackle at all. It is a cheap shot at a player that is more than often not going to lead to injury.
Thankfully for Remington's sake he got off unscathed.
There is no way any body needs to be doing tackles like that whether in All Age NPL HAL or Professional league in Europe.
Now if he had of got a red for it no one would have said he was hard done by would they??
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/39...e-poll/?cs=306
Can see the news reports heading into the final round already! "Team A needs to beat team B and hope that Team D beats team C so they leaps above team C into fourth. Alternatively they can make it in if a 13 year old youth league player from team C's club swears at a ref on a different day at a different venue"
I have no issue with this, and I'm a Jaffas fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by monz6
Yes you can say we need higher quality match officials, but there is a lot of work going on behind the scenes to do this. However, as with footballers, higher quality match officials take time to develope, just like players. Having people drop out because they're being constantly sworn at or threatened, increases the amount of time it takes. Imagine if half the players from the junior npl ranks drop out each year. If that happens over 5 years, suddenly you're down to about 3% of those who started. And if the quality of the players at the start are the best available, that doesn't leave a high quality group of players.
Good systemQuote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
Shoul see the clubs policing their own bad behaviour.
Problem is we have the whoa not fair on first grade shit alrwady.
Simple solution.
Control your players at junior level and teach them respect.
Do that and you won't have a problem.
This can all be solved with Northern stepping up to the plate for once and backing the referees. If a player gets sent off for dissent or swearing at a referee make it a minimum 4 week suspension regardless of what grade or age they play. If they are a repeat offender make their second offence a 6 week suspension. So instead of threatening to take competition points of 1st grade sides who may not even be involved in the send off punish the player/coach responsible. Realistically, if the offender was facing 4 weeks on the sidelines and a total of 10 weeks on the sideline for a second offence how quickly would we see the ref abuse stopping. And on the other hand not many clubs are going to sign or keep a player who gets these suspension.
I don't see how this will be effective.
Humans will always be d**kheads, there are people who can't even get along and treat each other respectfully on this small forum, let alone throughout entire football clubs including players & officials.
I'm sorry MFKS but to say what you have there about "controlling" players and "teach them respect" is just short sighted and shows either ignorance or zero understanding of how people think and act. I don't agree whatsoever with your views there.
I would honestly love if it was as simple as doing the above ideas, jeez the world would be a much better place.
Personally, as a player I would feel much worse, or absolutely pissed if it was a teammate/coach who cost our own team points versus the punishment being applied to others outside of my team.
Absolutely I agree. abuse of officials is not on I hope you didn't take my post that way. Wouldn't encourage my child to be a ref. But alternatively I don't think enough is being done about poor refereeing. From the outside looking in it seems like denial that refs make mistakes and we wonder why players get angry. But as a comment on the article said one of the quoted coaches caused their child to quit. That's not on. Needs to be a medium foundQuote:
Originally Posted by tucker's daughter
I struggle to find an affinity with anyone over any other in regard to a solution to the refereeing debate. I just wish I was fit enough to do the job as I'm sure that the ability to gender respect as an official would go a long way to warrant respect from players. If an official is seen to be competent in his role as an arbitrator players will react accordingly. The one thing missing from society today is respect, the football field is an anachronism of how we live our lives.
I think you need to look up the definition of anachronism.
Did you mean 'garner' respect?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonester
How would you coach the current refs in gaining respect better from the players? Surely there is more to it than just making a few good calls albeit it goes a long way. Attitudes these days are very poor. We've had a high number of cautions and send offs early in the season. Do u see that as referee strictness/competency/player management or player poor choice/attitude?
Players push the boundaries early in a season as they are keen, trying to impress but also testing the ref to see what they will n won't pull up.
I think respect should be an attitude drummed in from the heirarchy of Nnsw and the clubs. Coaches attitudes go a long way towards affecting players attitudes regarding respecting the refs decision and moving on.
This makes no sense. Surely committing a terrible tackle like this and potentially injuring one of the opposition's best players is a stronger form of cheating?Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
Plus, getting injured from a shirt being pulled has to be low compared this?
Finally, if this is what you class as a good solid tackle, all i can say is, i hope your not involved in coaching in any capacity.