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I took the same impressions from the Tinks interviews. Calling himself the biggest fan really rubbed me up the wrong way when he hasn't been sighted at a game since he first took over. Managing one appearance away at Perth instead of fronting up to the home fans you haven't given a shit about until you lost your beloved league team gives you zero credibility.
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Originally Posted by furns
Couple of questions in my mind:
Will Tinkler back down and pay the debt in order to delay a showdown? Is he the type to give in to a demand, ever? Are the unpaid debts even the trigger now?
What does Frank Lowy think of having the feel good factor of the Asian Cup dampened by this debarcle? He surely wanted to show all the Asian delegates how much we have progressed as a football nation under his tenure. He personally went to meet Tinkler over his handing back of the license. I assume you don't get too many second chances with Frank.
I thought ownership crises that allow a cashed up arab sheikh to sweep in and buy the club were a sign of a progressive football nation!??!?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by hausmann
I took the same thing form that series of interviews as Jeterpool did.
I think he might be my multi
I almost lost it when listening to Tinkler talk yesterday. No Vision, No plan. He might as well have just said "Those who got sacked disagreed with me, those that agreed stayed", would have been a shorter interview and I wouldn't have wasted my time.
Ps. **** you Tinkler.
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Originally Posted by furns
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Originally Posted by GazFish35
Dillion at least this time is bang on the money. Even gets away with the arrogant tone of I told you soQuote:
YOU did not need to be Nostradamus to see this coming.
As Football Federation Australia officials prepare for a likely no-holds-barred showdown with Jets owner Nathan Tinkler, Sporting Declaration cannot resist the urge to point out all this could have been avoided.
After FFA chief executive David Gallop declared in November: ‘‘It’s not in our plans to own the Jets or any other A-League team ... we don’t want to own A-League clubs, full-stop,’’ I warned that: ‘‘Every week this saga drags on delays the process of moving forward.’’
My advice at the time was quite straightforward.
The quickest way for the Jets to emulate the Newcastle Knights and re-engage with the community would be ‘‘for FFA to make the struggling tycoon an offer and then on-sell the franchise’’.
‘‘If that means funding the club’s operations on an interim basis, as the NRL is doing with the Knights, so be it,’’ I wrote.
‘‘Eventually, you would assume, such an investment will prove money well spent.’’
The risk of procrastinating, I predicted, would be to incur further damage to the club’s already battered reputation.
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‘‘While this waiting game continues, it is hard to see any winners,’’ I wrote.
‘‘The greatest asset the Jets have is their long-suffering supporters.
‘‘That they still have about 9000 members (10 per cent fewer than last year) is nothing short of remarkable.
‘‘But after every performance ... those fans are entitled to query why they bother. FFA needs to act before the boos [from the Novocastrian faithful] fade into total indifference.’’
Instead, FFA sat back, ignored my crystal ball and prayed that a new owner would emerge and enable Tinkler to sell the franchise.
The end result has been that, not surprisingly, the man they call the ‘‘Boganaire’’ has been unable to strike a deal, prompting him to perform an extraordinary backflip and take the club off the market.
The past week rates as perhaps the most farcical in the proud history of Newcastle football.
At a time when the city should have been overjoyed with the Socceroos’ Asian Cup semi-final triumph at Hunter Stadium, lovers of the round-ball code have found themselves dismayed by Newcastle’s 7-0 hammering in Adelaide and Tinkler’s bizarre decision to sack five senior players and three staff.
Meanwhile, the one-time billionaire insists he is acting in the club’s best interests and is determined to transform the Jets into ‘‘a winning team’’.
Tinkler is either (a) completely delusional or (b) taking the mickey.
If the answer is (a), he must think we all have short memories.
Does he expect us to simply forget the Jets’ four previous campaigns under his ownership, none of which yielded a playoff appearance?
Does he expect us to forget the myriad dramas surrounding unpaid creditors, the constant turnover of players and staff, or his decision to abandon funding for the Emerging Jets program?
Does he think anyone has forgotten that in 2012 he tried to walk away from his A-League licence, just weeks after taking control of the Knights?
Does he think issues such as the ICAC inquiry and his alleged treatment of former Minister for the Hunter Jodi McKay are no big deal?
Whatever gratitude Tinkler deserved for stepping in to replace former owner Con Constantine in October 2011 has long since been overshadowed by disappointment, frustration and despair.
Now we have seen another side of him.
The mirage on which he traded has been exposed for what it is. There is no bottomless pit of cash.
Even if he repays his debts and meets FFA’s deadline, even if he starts signing some quality players, the process of restoring credibility shapes as Mission: Impossible.
To have any hope of breaking even each year, the Jets need corporate support. But after events this season, why would any sponsor want to invest, especially with the Knights sharing the market?
Untenable is a word that springs to mind.
If Tinkler does not realise this, he is kidding only himself.
The other scenario, which I believe is more likely, is that Tinkler is strategically positioning himself to extract the maximum payday from FFA before he departs.
Like a hermit crab, he seems to be retreating deep into his shell, claws out to defend himself.
If the FFA wants him gone, which appears obvious, then it has two alternatives: try to repossess his licence, as it did with Constantine, or make it financially worth Tinkler’s while to walk away.
The first option could result in a protracted, expensive legal dispute, which the FFA would surely prefer to avoid.
It is worth remembering that when the NRL ousted Tinkler last June, it was not just a matter of ordering him to vacate the premises.
After months of negotiations, it lured him out by allowing him to use almost half of the $10.5million bank guarantee to pay some of his liabilities. In other words, he agreed to leave, once the price was right.
Unpalatable as it may seem, a similar approach shapes as FFA’s best bet.
It is time to pay Tinkler his pound of flesh and be rid of him forever.
I agree with Dillon and MFKS
and now I'm going to sit in my shower weeping for several hours
unclean, unclean, unclean....
No F'ing way will FFA give him a cent. Dillion is a Dog molester numpty this is nothing like the Knoughts situation. To suggest it is shows how out of touch on the topic he is, Dillion should stick to writing articles about how poor his colleagues can be.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Tinkler is entitled to absolute nothing and that is what Lowy will give him, along with a foot up the arse as he kicks him out the door.
Absolutely, the only reason the NRL was happy to give him his pound of flesh was because it was stillQuote:
Originally Posted by Premy
1. Getting the knights club back debt free &
2. Getting an extra 5m to capitalise the new entity
Whether Lowy wishes to give Tinkler cash is irrelevant. Reality is Tinkler is dragging the club fans HAL and code through the mud. Add in the possibility of a protracted legal battle bringing more blackeyes and not also forgetting what dirty laundry Tinks may have to expose there is a compelling case for the FFA to buy him off **** him off and then stabilise and on sell the club and save any future damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Premy
It may cost them some money but even if it costs 5 million the potential is there in time to recover that money judging by the sale prices Heart and Wankers have attracted (9 million-10 million etc)
Whether they really wish to do this is another matter but Tinks has lined his ducks up for it and at this stage is still holding a lot of cards. He may not have the winning hand but he has enough to keep him in the pot and one injuction that gets up ****s up anything the FFA may wish to do with seizing the licence
It's quite possible that, in the history of print journalism, the phrase "I wrote" has never been written so many times in one article.
I remember being livid at the FFA for hanging us out to dry then. whats changed? nothing, except a journo pushing his own importance to a larger audience.
here it is
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FOOTBALL Federation Australia chief executive David Gallop has declared it is ‘‘hard to imagine’’ Newcastle not being part of the A-League but warned that FFA had no intention of funding the franchise if embattled owner Nathan Tinkler walked away.
‘‘It’s not in our plans to own the Jets or any other A-League team,’’ Gallop, pictured left, told the Newcastle Herald on Friday.
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ok. Gallop just arrives in this game from a**hole land and immediately says ffa wont back the Jets after it has backed most other clubs over the last 10 yrs. c**t he turned out to be
I also agree with Dillon and MFKS.Quote:
Originally Posted by boz-monaut
The damage being done to the game would clearly outweigh the costs of paying him out. There is no way the FFA would sit back and let this happen to SFC or MV.
The FFA should never have been arbitrarily charging license fees. They should have had documented processes and set fees or none at all.
Just pay Tinkler back his license fee, leave him with his debts and sell the licence to Dundee. Get it done now and move on.
My take on this (& I have had some hints from a well placed source)
Tinkler wants his $5 million. He believes Low screwed him (do unto others....... haha). Apparently Dundee were talking less the half that including paying out debts. Tinkler is the nasty kid who, if he can't have things his way will make sure no one else can have it. He will bring things to the edge of destruction in an effort to force the FFA to cough up the other half. Basically, the FFA pays or he slashes and burns to have the FFA come under pressure from sponsors and TV. Palmer has not gone away, he has just gone underground and is busy. Tinkler will ramp up the pain until the FFA pays. He will drag out court action and prolong the agony until he is paid.
As the paper suggested: give the fat fu#k what he wants and get him out of our team
I just hope he didn't hurt his shoulder too much patting himself on the back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Couscous
If Tinks can't come up with a measly 140k to pay NNSW or even the 30k for ray watt, what chance does he have of hiring a legal team to work for him in this prolonged legal battle. It wasn't that long ago that his legal representatives actually joined the list of creditors and refused to do any further work for the bloke.
glorious post. better than afc cupQuote:
Originally Posted by Premy