DJ's and the whole DJ's rather than live bands scene these days.
A macbook is not a musical instrument it's evidence that you don't have any talent.
learn to actually play or fff- fffff -ffffff piss off.
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DJ's and the whole DJ's rather than live bands scene these days.
A macbook is not a musical instrument it's evidence that you don't have any talent.
learn to actually play or fff- fffff -ffffff piss off.
This could be the greatest post ever on the fox. Cant agree moreQuote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
Guitars are extinct. Youth are the story tellersQuote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
people who try to elevate one form of creativity over another, particularly when it casts them and their efforts over others
also, pointless arguments that were pointless decades ago
wait, so are vocalists good or bad?
yes, as long as they have a "lil" in their name
YouTube mumble rappers > Ronnie James Dio
The Migos have range baby.Quote:
Originally Posted by boz-monaut
Now now boz... I always appreciate your humour, but no jokes about Dio, the bloke was a king among men.. hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by boz-monaut
"Real" music using real talent died when digital came to the fore. Now any gimp with Fruity Loops can become a "ledge" by creating effects in a few minutes.
Us old fossils had it tough - hours with a razor blade, reel to reel tape and a keen ear took days to create the same effects. My 12 minute "Blue Monday" remix was made with love and not a small amount of skill.
so are drummers talented?
Drummers are very talented.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
They make great guitarists. Eddie Van Halen, Tommy Emmanuel, Frank Zappa. all started as drummers [very good ones as well] and came to the guitar with a brilliant sense of rhythm and timing.
being stuck at work when the most riveting finish to a test in quite some time is going on.
Wasnt that good really another 20 runs and it would have got interestingQuote:
Originally Posted by belchardo
More a case of the Indians ineptitude and Kohlis failings as a captain that it got that close
Dumb **** has blokes on the boundary for no 11 Hazleweood on **** all and 1 slip and 1 bat pad to a spinner
With 1 wicket and 60/70/80 etc to go he aint playing big shots
****ing stupidity
Great batsmen.
Great competitor
Great personality
Useless at captaincy though
Nothing better than the poor Member being loud wrong then doubling down with an even louder and wronger thing which he then points to and says "see, lots of us think like that".
As far as DJ's / musicians go. You just have to learn to appreciate different things. Its not that dissimilar from the difference between session musicians and songwriters/artists. What you think is better depends on whether you value creativity or technical ability on the "instrument". Because they are two very different things. Most famous guitarists aren't famous for being able to play the fastest, or the cleanest, or the most difficult licks. Its the fact that they conceive of them in the first place. How many thousands of guitarists can produce a perfect rendition of Stairway to Heaven? The technical ability to recreate it isn't the impressive part.
I tend to feel the same about DJs/producers, some of which are actually skillful musicians in their own right - the Presets are an electronic duo from Australia with a background in the Sydney Conservatorium where they studied classical music.
Yeah, its not as difficult to create the rhythm or melodies on a laptop as it is with instruments. But if that is all you're listening to music for then you are missing the point, and I can assume that you only listen to something like orchestral classical music where the technical difficulty and skill level is at its peak.
And I say this without trying to say that you have to like or enjoy different styles of music. But you can still appreciate the artistry or creativity that a composer has regardless of what tools they are using to enact their particular vision.
You are totally correct, BUT perhaps going down a different rabbit hole than what I think was originally intended..Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
I could be wrong, but I am assuming Dunster was referring to the sort of DJ you would see at your local pub/club.
Person (usually a hot chick) shows up, hits play, someone else's music comes out, acts like they are a genius and rocking the house..
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the skin, but I don't see how it requires a large amount of talent.. I've never done it, perhaps there is more to it than meets the eye..
I know I'm leaving myself open to all of the mixing and beat matching and all that stuff, I'm happy to be wrong and shown that that stuff takes the same amount of time to master as it does an instrument..
Jimmy Page was a session musician - He was the hired gun for producer Shel Talmy. Plenty of other session guitarists had successful careers as well. Glen Campbell made 40 albums 27 of which made the Billboard top ten. Jerry Reed, Chet Atkins, Duane Allman, Eric Clapton, Steve Lukather... and the list goes on. All hired guns but also wrote, produced, and played some of the biggest selling albums / songs of all time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
DJ's don't come close.
Classical music has been dead for a long time - the few great players left are well past their best and the benchmarks of their instruments like Heifetz [violin] or Dennis Brain [Horn ] have not been equalled and probably never will be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCqv5vm2iz4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etWUK9bm7qE
For those playing at home the piano part's not difficult - the Horn part is essentially impossible but Dennis Brain makes it look like child's play.
Sorry, but it grinds my gears when DJ's want to stand alongside this sort of greatness and call themselves musicians.
I agree but their is an Art to making the perfect playlist for the right crowdQuote:
Originally Posted by Bon
See, famous and technically brilliant can be so far apart. What do you value? A showman?Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
I do not give any credit to popularity but I do like some music that is simple and some that is complex. I do think some complex music is garbage etc.
Is Opera supposed to be special?
any of you mother****ers even tried to play a wobble board?
Fair point on that, I probably did interpret it more as a music producer rather than a live "DJ".Quote:
Originally Posted by Bon
I too don't know much about that side of things and what it does and doesn't take to do it. I will say though that there's a huge difference between a chick who's curated an iTunes playlist of songs she likes, and some person who actually remixes and combines songs, takes samples etc to create a different take on existing songs. I can appreciate the time and thought that's gone into it and enjoy hearing familiar stuff in a different way.
Dunster, I'm not gonna try and compete with you on musician knowledge because you'll blow me out of the water. I would agree that in general, musicianship levels on instruments are not what they once were. And I wasn't saying that session musicians are not extremely talented - in fact that was my point. The fact that some of them have the talent and the creativity doesn't undermine my point either.
If I can leave people hitting play on songs they have nothing to do with out of it, when people are creating music (regardless of what instruments or medium is being used), its going to be received by very different people in very different contexts. Some styles will not appeal to you in general, but that doesn't mean there isn't stuff of value in there. And within styles that don't appeal to you, you will still find bits and pieces you can appreciate (whether its individual songs or just elements of them) and enjoy, and maybe transpose into a style that you enjoy more.
But there's also some music that is trash. Always has been and always will be.
Absolutely - It's only real downfall is being too expensive for most people to attend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Negative Police
People still have preferences for certain artists / performers as well as Composers.
Some of it you will like some of it you won't. But I'd be confident there would be something in the genre you'd enjoy.
Lead or rhythm ?Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
I’m convinced there’s a spot reserved in hell for everyone that walks through crowded areas of the beach wearing thongs while flicking tonnes of sand up and over people on the sand.
Better then burning ya feet on the sandQuote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
I’ll clarify that the thong wearing part isn’t the issue, the issue is the sand being flicked onto innocent people.
Rolf Harris has single handedly burned this 'instrument' for the unforseeable future...Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Saw a dude blow out a double plugger at the airport. A lot of head scratching going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
36 Fanta flavours at Maccas.....not one of them orange ffs.
Fanta has always been orange to me.
Wait..Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
It's actually only 6 flavours, that you can mix with the 6 flavours, to get 36.. and one of them isn't orange.. (Which is what Fanta is, or was, to us older folk?)
Really? hahaha..
Again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
Boots are well and truly hung now.
Shit, that's no good. The other knee?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
Same one.
Initial MRI 11.5 months ago was misdiagnosed due to swelling, follow up/Pre op MRI last time showed there were remains of an ACL and it was somewhat in tact, albeit lax and unable to determine just how much, so 10 months of rehab trying to get strength and stability through my knee. 44 minutes into first game back, and hyperextended it and felt a pop again, and that was the full ACL gone.
So now back to square one, and where I was 12 months ago.
Disappointment still very much there, but somewhat expected and I knew the risks. Initial swelling just makes it impossible to do anything.
Day 6 Post Op.
New appreciation for how athletes ever want to go back to sport and potentially go through this again.
Though, pay me 500,000 and I’ll consider it.
Being in Facebook gaol..................
The advances in treating these types of injuries is amazing. Look at Marko Jesic - he's been through hell and back several times but they managed to get him right and he's still playing for Marconi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
Good luck with the rehab - it will be tough no doubt but at least yer not suffering from old age - no cure for that shit I can assure you.
No great loss reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by Skirt Boy
The way things are going with these Social Media everyone is getting banned for breaching their community guidelines which they can't even define
Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
The photo in question was nothing more than a woman in hotpants and a bra.
The really worrisome thing about it is that since so much information is now disseminated by social media they should fall under the same rules as a phone company or postal service. IE unless it's actually illegal they shouldn't be able to police to the extent they do. Obvious hate speech and illegal activity is one thing. But stomping down on artists? Get farked.
So think about this. The Herald has posted my work in a full page feature. But it's too racy for Facebook. :D