Ditto...it isn't something can can just be done in 24 hours.
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Bang on the money with this one.
The way it pans out from here will largely show the true colours of the likes of the RBB and NT and whether they see themselves as above the game. Their action from here could actually do more damage, but given none of them seem to even loosely acknowledge that they have been part of the problem that got us here, I won't hold my breath.
Exactly what is the need to protest for???
That banner last week about standing behind the 198 means **** all to me
The vast majority that are in the 198 I don't want to support as they deserve to be there in the first place.
NT Cove and RBB just losing what little credibility they have more and more every week by carrying on like flogs
They are the ones making it out to be all about them.
Yes we need an appeals process but Plague is bang on the money with a lot of what he has said
The FFA are not the big problem here. It is the flogs out there that support our game and carry on like dickheads over being pulled up for being dickheads that are causing the problem.
Protest and walk out because the FFA have banned 198 people because the vast majority are dickheads.
No doubt some are unfairly treated but spare me the bullshit that this is the issue.
The issue is dickheads want to be treated better for being dickheads and all of a sudden a mass of gullible people are falling into line to support them
As for Rebecca Wilson and Alan Jones both are ****wits of the highest order
The pedo and drink driving stuff and bringing that up just makes football fans look like halfwits themselves
Both are easily dealt with as their opinions are as hollow uneducated and delusional it isn't funny.
Football fans really need to stick to playing the ball on this issue as they are too busy playing the man
make it stop
Just to clarify for ppl who are wondering why the supporters groups across the league are continuing the boycott action, please have a listen to this podcast via the link for the reasons as explained by Grant Muir
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...65944306837694
clear as mud Furns. TBH
I'm trying my best to make sense of it, more than most would I reckon.
I still can't see how boycotting fans can say they acknowledge the complexities in resolving the appeals process but still expect it all to be sorted in a consultative manner before the timeframe the FFA have announced.
"We want action, not words" is a great catchphrase and I agree the FFA's words have little credibility, but demanding action so swiftly is unrealistic and weakens the position of the protests, because "average joe" fans wont continue to support the actives if they perceive the demands to be unrealistic.
AND... at least put an explicit and realistic timeframe to the FFA. asking the FFA to be "more urgent" allows them to say "we'll do it ASAP", its a bad as DeBohun saying they'll look at it in the near future, or they'll announce something soon.
put up a realistic expectation and pitch the battle over that, not on unrealistic terms....otherwise goodwill will fade quicker than Arsenal title hope now the Sanchez is cooked.
There are things still being worked on behind the scenes Gaz, hopefully in the next couple of days as part of the collective we will be able to publicise them.
Be assured its not all groups saying "We are protesting until you immediately announce a new banning procedure", but its worth remembering that most groups across the league have tried in vain on multiple occasions over many years to engage with the FFA on the banning process and the role of Hatamoto and have been fobbed off at every turn.
Its taken the unprecedented action of all groups presenting a united front to even get them to admit the process needs to be reworked.
I understand this has been coming to a head for a long time.
What I'm worried about is the damage done to the code and active support by taking an unreasonable position in terms of the timeframe demanded.
Due to the coordinated protests last week the issues are now becoming more commonly known and far more could have been gained by being seen to take the FFA up on their timeline of early February, then relaunching protests if nothing comes to fruition.
This will be won or lost by whoever the general masses side with, and to keep them as onside as possible reasonable positions need to be taken - as mush as I'm aware these issues have been breeding for years, the vast majority of fans wouldn't have a clue and don't really care.
The media will spin this however best suits them, we know that. Taking a reasonable position takes the media heat away from it all and as the objective of having the FFA admit there's an issue and place a timeline on change has happened, retreat (for lack of a better word) engage in the process the FFA undertake and if the FFA fail to meet their own timeline go in hard again, with another coordinated round of protests.
Push too hard now, and the goodwill of the masses will side with the FFA.
double eff-aye have been treating the real fans like shit for years.
real fans - as in single males 18-35. this is the core, not your whoosbag familias with their baseball caps, flags, seats on half-way, carton of chips and a coke zero.
agree with dunster from a few pages back. this country has gone to shit, and the rate of shittening is accelerating at an alarming rate. a whole stadium of mid-strength at $7 a pop ffs. bring back fight-brau you weak cunce!
town hall last night. real pub, lotsa dank, good local, retro-fitted electricity etc. not your fancy pants, wifi, water features, meal buzzers and air-conditioning nonsense. even they are full of aids past 10pm. one beer per person per transaction ffs. ****ing internet generation
We all know that, but ask the general punter and they think it looks like the boycotts are for the 198.
I completely agree the banning process and lack of transparency in any appeals process needs to change, but none of the groups like the RBB will acknowledge that they have and continue to fuel the over policing and regulation of their active groups. The RBB could easily curtail flares and antisocial behaviour in the bays which would account for a large portion of the bannings, but they don't. All you see is an anti-establishment view of the world that they have been harshly dealt with with no consideration of how they add to the issue.
So until groups look to clean up their act, and acknowledge that like the FFA, they too have an issue, a lot of punters will continue to think that the boycotts are related to all 198. Take away the flares and a large portion of the banning, right or wrongly given, go away.
Call it sloppy reporting or whatever. We all know the media in this country well enough to know that outside of the small football media, the actual message will be lost.
Nah man.
The article came out and the shitstorm started.
The banning process was in place before the article yet everyone was cool cool and still happy to go watch their team.
The narrative changed once the shitstorm started that it was now about the appeals process.
Whilst ever everyone keeps blaming everyone else instead of the morons punching in and ripping flares the longer we'll be here roaming round in circles like Caravella.
http://www.openjournal.com.au/wp-con...ll-1982_LR.jpg
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This is 1982 see if you can spot the seccos or boutique cats piss beer in plastic cups..