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Have heard today that Nick Cowburn was not offered a Yoof contract where he would get his 45-50k a year and be part of the senior squad for next season training FT as has been widely believed to be from reports in the media this week
Have heard he is being offered a Yoof contract i.e. The same one the rest of our yoof team is on ie $100 a week and match payments for HAL appearances
If true a ****ing disgrace from these clowns
This club gets more hatable all the timeQuote:
Originally Posted by Wilso8948
Least it'd actually make each game interesting. Even though he's a bit of a clown he's at least entertaining and would be good for a laughQuote:
Originally Posted by Maito Mitch
Yes it's a disgrace.....except that Nick is too old for a full time NYL contract. Those contracts are 2 years in length and the recipient needs to be no older than 20 in the second year.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
If as reported he has a letter of intent for a standard HAL contract from next year then he is getting the best deal he can get bar an immediate full time contract.
The club list respect commitment and community in its values.
Bulut?
So does the Brothers for Life so no problem😜Quote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
What kind of contract is Brandon Lundy on? He is under contract until the of the 15/16 season.Quote:
Originally Posted by borat
Lundy is confirmed on a NYL full time contract and most likely Pavecevic as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by The Postman
Lundy is on a NYL contractQuote:
Originally Posted by borat
I was told to today Pavicevic is on a full contract.
We have 2 spot available for NYL deals
Whether Cowburn is too old is irrelevant. 10 appearances and 12 vacant squad spots says he should get a deal. Not be expected to live on peanuts and be used by the club as they see fit.
What's to say next year the blokes making him these promises are still here to keep their end of the bargain or are even prepared to keep their promise being they can't be trusted??
Basically they are treating him like a chump and giving him no reward for his efforts.
#SlaveLabour
No offence to Rad Pav but if he is full time then so should Cowbie, I couldn't blame him for leaving this circus.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Yep that's the one. Going into his 2nd year next season. There is no obligation by the club to confirm this type of contract, often they say they have just signed a full time contract, but Lundy confirmed this himself and so did the Jets when he signed on. The Herald has published stories describing Lundy on an apprentice contract.
Pavecevic will be on one too given the 2 year deal for a youth player. It means nothing that they permanently train with the HAL squad, it's just another type of contract but one that garuantees min HAL wage (50k or there abouts this year).
$50k? What's the poverty line, why would you botherQuote:
Originally Posted by borat
I laugh at this there is so many kids out here chasing there dream $50k at 19 is huge when the behind the scenes work is put in which not many bloggers appreciate. It is easy too opt out and go to NPL to earn a few extra dollars short term. 90% of theses kids will not proceed but will be lead to believe there is hope only to see the disgrace of a club that continue to promote or give opportunity to outsiders.Quote:
Originally Posted by mervan
One more name to add to the list of guys that won't sign with the Jets - Corey Gameiro
Apparently next in line when Stubbins misses out on Bernie and Mclaren
Pfft...Don't need them...We've signed the 2nd leading scorer from the Tasmanian all age comp.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Postman
You are right, Stubbins is assembling a solid mid table NPL teamQuote:
Originally Posted by seldom
So you would prefer the club pay a kid $100 a week with the sacrifices he has to make with social life and employment opportunities and expect him to continue playing in the Yoofs and then they get him to fill in with the HAL when they see fit??Quote:
Originally Posted by mervan
Lets remember the kid has played 10 times this season so they rate him enough to do a job but then on the other hand can't be arsed giving him the security of a deal.
Sure that will make the kid feel right at home when he goes to training busting his arse for peanuts and his teammates are getting paid 10 to 20 times more than him for the same effort and have some security for their lives.
Maybe we should put all our players on one of these Youth contracts then and open up a cotton farm FFS
The standard NYL contract earns about 5k from recollection. Does anyone know if the NYL team additionally earn more for playing in the NPL outside of the NYL season? I am assuming they do.
Most people earn this at a drudge job. spose you pay this in tax?Quote:
Originally Posted by mervan
Hold on he is probably the type who wipes his arse with $20's and blows his nose with $50'sQuote:
Originally Posted by hawk
when you consider that you career is over not long after your 30th birthday, $50k is quite shit
the only blokes who'd chose this as a career would have to have very few other options
50k is the minimum money for the blokes at the bottom end of a HAL squad.Quote:
Originally Posted by boz-monaut
The blokes higher up get more and then your good players do pretty well.
Add in the opportunity to travel overseas like Taggz and Beard and earn some serious coin if you do well.
Sure there are a lot of failures but those that do succeed can live quite comfortably. Those who do make a career out of being a HAL player ain't exactly eating 3 for $1 home brand noodles their career.
Sure there are plenty of jobs in the world paying more than 50k but to say these blokes are skint is wrong.
$50k a year is a pretty good deal for doing something you enjoy like playing football.
There is also no law saying former players can't get another career / job when their playing days are over either.
Very few people get to retire at 30 years of age regardless of their profession - I don't see why footballers should be any different.
Certain trades are short term as well given fatigue and injuries - but you don't see brickies and so on whining like most pro athletes about the short length of their careers.
pretty much every other job has better job security and longevity
you'd have to be utterly brilliant or an idiot incapable of a profession to try your luck as a professional footballer
So what I have been told they get $200pw during NYL (ffa regulated across the board) and $100pw during NPL but the outsiders get extra not sure how much I think $150 maybe $200 during NPL to offset living away from home. If they sit on the bench or play in ALeague they get an extra match payment of $550 or there about not sure of exact payment.Quote:
Originally Posted by borat
That is my point, but the member being the muppit he is continues his personal attack, must feel threatenedQuote:
Originally Posted by boz-monaut
NEWCASTLE have stepped up their pursuit of Sydney striker Bernie Ibini, as the Sky Blues work through their efforts to squeeze a host of stars into the salary cap.
Ibini’s loan spell with Sydney from Chinese club Shanghai Dongya finishes at the end of the season and the Jets have made him one of their priority targets as coach Phil Stubbins continues a wholesale overhaul of his squad.
Ibini scores stunner0:36
Though Ibini has a longstanding relationship with Sydney coach Graham Arnold, there remains uncertainty over what deal the Sky Blues can offer in the face of competing pay demands from the likes of Milos Dimitrijevic, Mickael Tavares and Jacques Faty.
It’s also unclear whether a loan fee would be payable for Ibini, who signed a three-year deal with Shanghai in June 2013 but was loaned back to the Mariners in January 2014, and then to Sydney later last year. Under new A-League rules, most loan fees are included in the salary cap, but both Sydney and the Jets are hopeful Shanghai will agree to release Ibini from the last year of his contract.
Sydney FC star Bernie Ibini is being targeted by Newcastle. Picture: Mark Evans
Sydney FC star Bernie Ibini is being targeted by Newcastle. Picture: Mark EvansSource: News Corp Australia
Though pay talks are ongoing with several players, Sydney’s focus this week is their semi-final with Adelaide on Saturday night, a place in the grand final awaiting the winner.
Foxsports article.
But it’s believed the Jets are ready to make Ibini a substantial offer as Stubbins looks to establish a first-choice forward line for next season.
Meanwhile Perth have emerged as a potential destination for defender Zac Anderson, who left the Mariners last week. Though a move up the F3 to the Jets remains a possibility, Stubbins already has Daniel Mullen and Nigel Boogaard signed for next year, while Sydney FC’s priority is to secure Jacques Faty for next season at the completion of his injury replacement contract.
Nick can play across the backline. Has been in our system for years. Has proven he is up to HAL level with his run of games this season. Is local. Can cross, which is extremely rare for a HAL player.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
If he isn't worth a squad spot at minimum wage, I don't know what is.
Someone who can play anywhere across the field, can't cross and comes from SydneyQuote:
Originally Posted by pv4
If Ibini is the answer the question must be "how can we drive away the few fans we have left".
Ibini would be the best Aust Marquee in the HAL if we signed him. A current Socceroo in his prime who isn't looking to play OS due to his family issues. Sign a decent central striker to play as a foil and it's a win win combination.
On the Cowburn situation it's an interesting gamble the Jets are taking. If no other club offers Nick a HAL deal then the Jets offer of a guaranteed deal the following season will be his best offer. And we get a handy backup outside the top 23.
Although Nick will be able to sign for any club during the NYL season. NYL contracts do not lock the player down from a pro deal.
Oh man, the off season sure has started with a bang.Quote:
Originally Posted by borat
I gotta get in shape if I'm gonna compete with some of you this winter.
http://www.staffingagencyphoenix.com...-Interview.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
Name any better...............(yeah didn't think so)Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Stu Musialik.Quote:
Originally Posted by borat
Boom.
Thanks again,
Plague.
I'd rather Bresciano or Holman as Australian Marquee to Ibini.Quote:
Originally Posted by borat
Hell, I'd even rather Bulut.
^ actually, I'd love Bulut at our club. Even if we had to pay him Australian Marquee wages. The guy is a winner, and is an absolutely amazing player.
I don't see him being a realistic option, because I think he has his heart set on a European move, but man could he win us some games.
He doesn't fit into Phil's yes-men philosophy though.
wilkshire and jimmy holland spring to mind
would play wilkshire in the centre of the park as well.
ibini is not an australian marquee, hoole is better than him imo
i'm with pv4 in taking bulut
i would take macclaren, bulut, juric, and even babalj before i took ibini
Bresciano and Holman....sigh...why not Viduka or H is still available I hear.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
Both would be expensive geriatric failures and just the type of marquee we usually sign.
Of the younger Socceroos, Jimmy Holland or Tagz would be better but I highly doubt either would consider returning to the HAL. Maybe Bozanic might consider a return.
Of players already here Franjic is an option and Mooy is locked down already. Ibini is a realistic option who is available, and a good player to boot, in a position we need to fill.