Caulfield R5: 4 : Tosen Stardom: WIN : 20
Caulfield R6: 11 : Real Love : WIN : 20
Caulfield R7: 1 : Property: WIN : 20
Caulfield R8: 1 : Flamberge: WIN : 20
Randwick R7: 4 : Who Shot Thebarman : PLACE : 20
Printable View
Caulfield R5: 4 : Tosen Stardom: WIN : 20
Caulfield R6: 11 : Real Love : WIN : 20
Caulfield R7: 1 : Property: WIN : 20
Caulfield R8: 1 : Flamberge: WIN : 20
Randwick R7: 4 : Who Shot Thebarman : PLACE : 20
The Dunster
Caulfield R5: 1 : Black Heart Bart : WIN : 20
Caulfield R6: 7 : Tally : WIN : 20
Caulfield R7: 3 : Jukebox : WIN : 20
Caulfield R8: 5 : Sheidel : WIN : 20
Randwick R7: 9 : Winx : WIN : 20
jukebox was vetted this morning duns, dunno if he'll run
No worries - if he's scratched the favourite will do the job.Quote:
Originally Posted by q-money
GPS - AA02
Caulfield R5: 3 : Turn Me Loose : WIN : 20
Caulfield R6: 7 : Tally : WIN : 20
Caulfield R7: 4 : Pariah : WIN : 20
Caulfield R8: 2 : Fell Swoop : WIN : 20
Randwick R7: 7 : Tavago : PLACE : 20
****ing work is killing my KOTH chances, it's almost grounds to quit I think!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/o0dq8azaoe...02016.pdf?dl=0
the wolfman's reign of terror continues, q-man adrift in the ocean with the ghost of pilote d'essai
cannot believe i potted the magic man on Shiedel ffs, one of the biggest locks of the year, how did it go around at 7.3 ffs
http://i.imgur.com/LrDsGdq.png
We had the two surest things in racing on the weekend: Winx and Blackheart Bart at Caulfield. The payouts were not great - but still paying massive overs.
Place betting is a quick way to lose money. You have a third the chance but the average payout is a quarter or worse.
If you think a horse is a certainty to run a place you really mean it has a chance of winning - You should back it to win.
I've seen too many odds on pops go under at 1.5 to even entertain the thought of loading into them unless they are very special.
Winx yes, BHB possibly, but Bart was very, very close to going under to Tosen Stardom (he didn't, but it was squeaky bum time for a few of you on him i'm sure)
These affairs where Winx is trouncing the field don't come around very often - and make for very interesting betting angles around her, for mine. If you've done your homework (track/distance/conditions) there is money to be made. For the most part though, I agree with you.
For me - the exacta isn't a bad angle to play if you've marked up someone who's clearly on top and you don't want to make a huge investment into it. Dixie Blossoms case in point on the weekend. small field, wet track and you can knock out half of them as not good enough to win it in the conditions.
stood out DB into zanbagh/flippant/danish twist for $20 investment - nets $130.
of course it doesn't always work like that but i enjoy my arvos on the punt a bit more when they last for longer, rather than watching every short price fav i've loaded into end up in the sea
Quite literally, the difference between my total last week and yours was my decision to take the $3.70 about Whoshot Thebarman for a place, rather than the almost even money Winx to win as we knew she would.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
Where there's value in place betting, I'll always take it
It was a risky bet though - given that if Hartnell didn't get on the piss the night before you would have run fourth.Quote:
Originally Posted by WolfMan
In the long run betting on the win will make you more money.
The bookies love place and each way bets.
All bets are risky.
Anyway, not getting on my high horse (lol) just an alternative theory that so far has worked for me
holding fire for a bit before i put them up, i'm still doubtful if sydney will run as it is wetter than an otter's pocket down here
Gee they haven't had much luck this year down there have they!Quote:
Originally Posted by q-money
ok lads. i'm still doubtful sydney will run - so i'll split it into 2 separate meetings of 5 races (i.e. all of outside sydney), then sydney only as well because it is a great day of racing. if it gets canned then you can have a crack again for the monday fields, if it runs we have 10 races on the card for the week. same rules apply - 100 units for each racelist.
so fill out both - and if randwick gets shuffled to monday you can edit your choices
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Racelist 1:
Flemington R5 - Frances Tressady Stakes - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...INGTON/FLM/R/5
Flemington R6 - Tab Rewards Stakes - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...INGTON/FLM/R/6
Flemington R7 - Australian Guineas - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...INGTON/FLM/R/7
Morphettville R8 - Lord Reims Stakes - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...TVILLE/MPH/R/8
Ellerslie R9 - NZ Derby - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...ERSLIE/ELL/R/9
Racelist 2:
Randwick R1 - Riesling Stakes - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...NDWICK/RAN/R/1
Randwick R2 - Todman Stakes - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...NDWICK/RAN/R/2
Randwick R5 - Canterbury BMW Stakes - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...NDWICK/RAN/R/5
Randwick R6 - Hyland Challenge - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...NDWICK/RAN/R/6
Randwick R7 - Randwick Guineas - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...NDWICK/RAN/R/7
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Racelist 1:
Flemington R5: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Flemington R6: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Flemington R7: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Morphettville R8: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Ellerslie R9: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Racelist 2:
Randwick R1: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Randwick R2: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Randwick R5: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Randwick R6: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Randwick R7: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Degenerate pv4
Racelist 1:
Flemington R5: 7 : Deja Blue : WIN : 20
Flemington R6: 5 : Grande Rosso : WIN : 20
Flemington R7: 1 : Prized Icon : WIN : 20
Morphettville R8: 10 : Sir Laszlo : WIN : 20
Ellerslie R9: 5 : Highlad : WIN : 20
Racelist 2:
Randwick R1: 2 : She Will Reign : WIN : 20
Randwick R2: 5 : Khan : WIN : 20
Randwick R5: 1 : Chautauqua : WIN : 20
Randwick R6: 4 : Dal Cielo : WIN : 20
Randwick R7: 11 : Harper's Choice : WIN : 20
WolfMan
Racelist 1
Flemington R5 - 8 : Diamond Baroness : WIN : 20
Flemington R6 - 8 : Sadaqa : PLACE : 20
Flemington R7 - 1 : Prized Icon : WIN : 20
Morphettville R8 - 7 : Tunes : PLACE : 20
Ellerslie R9 - 12 : Charles Road : PLACE : 20
Racelist 2
Randwick R1: 6 : Star Senasation : PLACE : 20
Randwick R2: 2 : Veranillo : WIN : 20
Randwick R5: 7 : Ugo Fosolco : WIN : 20
Randwick R6: 4 : Dal Cielo : WIN : 20
Randwick R7: 9 : Malaise : PLACE : 20
Excuse my ignorance, but how is Prized Icon entered in Race 7 at both Randwick and Flemington?
will definitely run in melbourne, if the sydney meeting gets moved to monday they may accept him and enter on the quick backupQuote:
Originally Posted by WolfMan
The Dunster
Race List 1
Flemington R5 - 8 : Diamond Baroness : WIN : 20
Flemington R6 - 5 : Grande Rosso : WIN : 20
Flemington R7 - 4 : Hey Doc : WIN : 20
Morphettville R8 - 3 : Jim's Journey : WIN : 20
Ellerslie R9 - 2 : Savile Row : WIN : 20
Racelist 2
Randwick R1: 3 : Frolic : WIN : 20
Randwick R2: 4 : Invader : WIN : 20
Randwick R5:4: Music Magnate : WIN : 20
Randwick R6: 9: Felines : WIN : 20
Randwick R7: 14: Invincible Gem : WIN : 20
PC14
Racelist 1
Randwick R1: 2 : She Will Reign : WIN : 20
Randwick R2: 4 : Invader : WIN : 20
Randwick R5: 2 : Le Romain : WIN : 20
Randwick R6: 2 : Redzel : WIN : 20
Randwick R7: 5 : Comin Through : WIN : 20
Racelist 2:
Flemington R5 - 4 : Manageress : WIN : 20
Flemington R6 - 5 : Grande Rosso : WIN : 20
Flemington R7 - 5 : Morten's Fork : WIN : 20
Morphettville R8 - 3 : Second Bullet : WIN : 20
Ellerslie R9 - 2 : Savile Row : WIN : 20
Racelist 1:
Flemington R5: 5 : Rising Romance : WIN : 20
Flemington R6: 3 : Hooked : Win : 20
Flemington R7: 11 : Inside Agent : Win : 20
Morphettville R8: 7 : Tunes : Win : 20
Ellerslie R9: 11 : Camino Rocoso : Win : 20
Racelist 2:
Randwick R1: 6 : Star Sensation : WIN : 20
Randwick R2: 11 : Lightz : WIN : 20
Randwick R5: 7 : Ugo Foscolo : WIN : 20
Randwick R6: 4 : Dal Cielo : WIN : 20
Randwick R7: 5 : Comin' Through : WIN : 20
here's skip's for the record
Star sensation place 20, invader win 20, Le romain win 20, dal cielo win 20, comin through win 20
Turbo miss win 20, hooked win 20, hey doc win 20, Master of Arts win 20, sacred elixir win 20
Cheers Q
Have tidied it up for ya here.
Racelist 1:
Flemington R5: 10 : Turbo Miss : WIN : 20
Flemington R6: 3 : Hooked : Win : 20
Flemington R7: 4 : Hey Doc : Win : 20
Morphettville R8: 1 : Master of Arts : Win : 20
Ellerslie R9: : Sacred Elixir : Win : 20
Racelist 2:
Randwick R1: 6 : Star Sensation : Place : 20
Randwick R2: 4 : Invader : WIN : 20
Randwick R5: 2 :Le Romain : WIN : 20
Randwick R6: 4 : Dal Cielo : WIN : 20
Randwick R7: 5 : Comin' Through : WIN : 20
bonjour cunce
Melbourne+Morph+NZ (1)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zk4lkomtvh...6%201.pdf?dl=0
Randwick (2)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/z8a583iykj...6%202.pdf?dl=0
in the spirit of the australian cup we've got a deadset bonecrusher v at talaq match up going here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUbeSfBV6pw
Can confirm, LRO is back this week for good.
So watch out as i'll probably win a bit then lose a bit more then win a little then lose most of the rest!
I have barely tipped in the last few weeks and dropped to last thanks to fav's being awful!
Rosehill R6: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Rosehill R7: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Rosehill R8: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Flemington R7: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Flemington R8: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Rosehill R6 - Phar Lap Stakes G2 - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...SEHILL/RSH/R/6
Rosehill R7 - Coolmore Classic G1 - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...SEHILL/RSH/R/7
Rosehill R8 - Ajax Stakes G2 - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...SEHILL/RSH/R/8
Flemington R7 - Newmarket Handicap G1 - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...INGTON/FLM/R/7
Flemington R8 - Australian Cup G1 - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...INGTON/FLM/R/8
good luck lads
PC14
Rosehill R6: 9 : Foxplay : WIN : 20
Rosehill R7: 7 : La Bella Diosa : WIN : 20
Rosehill R8: 5 : Dibayani : WIN : 20
Flemington R7: 5 : Voodoo Lad : WIN : 20
Flemington R8: 10 : Humidor : WIN : 20
degenerate pv4
Rosehill R6: 9 : Foxplay : WIN : 20
Rosehill R7: 11 : Euro Angel : WIN : 20
Rosehill R8: 3 : He's our Rokkii : WIN : 20
Flemington R7: 8 : Tivaci : WIN : 20
Flemington R8: 5 : Ecuador : WIN : 20
WolfMan (fresh from Dunster's school for blokes who can't bet good) No places!
Rosehill R6: 6 : Cosmic Set : WIN : 20
Rosehill R7: 7 : La Bella Diosa : WIN : 20
Rosehill R8: 6 : Cylinder Beach : WIN : 20
Flemington R7: 4 : Sheidel : WIN : 20
Flemington R8: 3 : The United States : WIN : 20
LRO
Rosehill R6: 14 : Dawn Wall : WIN : 20
Rosehill R7: 2 : Dixie Blossoms : WIN : 25
Rosehill R8: 5 : Dibayani : WIN : 25
Flemington R7: 3 : The Quarterback : Place : 10
Flemington R8: 1 : Stratum Star : WIN : 20
MadnessQuote:
Originally Posted by WolfMan
So from my quick maths so far we have used 1420 units with only 2 people in front, no wonder bookies are rich ****s.
Rosehill R6: 9 : fox play : WIN : 10
Rosehill R7: 8 : Danish twist : PLACE : 20
Rosehill R8: 5 : Dibiyani : WIN : 20
Flemington R7: 3 : 1\4 back : PLACE : 20
Flemington R8: 10 : humidor : WIN : 30
The Dunster
Rosehill R6: 4 : Achi Baba : WIN : 20
Rosehill R7: 13 : Zanbagh : WIN : 20
Rosehill R8: 1 : It's Somewhat : WIN : 20
Flemington R7: 7 : Illustrious Lad : WIN : 20
Flemington R8: 2 : Awesome Rock : WIN : 20
Rosehill R6: 4 : Achi Baba : Win : 20
Rosehill R7: 1 : First Seal : Win : 20
Rosehill R8: 1 : It's Somewhat : Win : 20
Flemington R7: 6 : Extreme Choice : Win : 20
Flemington R8: 8 : Tom Melbourne : Win : 20
ayyy lads - holding fire until friday morning with all the rain innit. hold tight troops, if you must do the form it's all the sydney G1s and the 2 group races in melb
stay true. how good's the race tbh, going off. skip with the consistency and dunster with the huge play on my mate It's Somewhat. great theatre
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uwufpwgtfl...02016.pdf?dl=0
http://i.imgur.com/grtj1DQ.png
an all G1 affair :wub:
Rosehill R4: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Rosehill R5: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Rosehill R6: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Rosehill R7: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Rosehill R8: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
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Rosehill R4 - Ranvet Stakes - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...SEHILL/RSH/R/4
Rosehill R5 - George Ryder Stakes - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...SEHILL/RSH/R/5
Rosehill R6 - Rosehill Guineas - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...SEHILL/RSH/R/6
Rosehill R7 - Golden Slipper - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...SEHILL/RSH/R/7
Rosehill R8 - The Galaxy - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...SEHILL/RSH/R/8
PC14
Rosehill R4: 5 : USA : WIN : 20
Rosehill R5: 8 : Winx : WIN : 20
Rosehill R6: 5 : Comin' Through : WIN : 20
Rosehill R7: 13 : Frolic : WIN : 20
Rosehill R8: 6 : Redzel : WIN : 20
Q - It may only make a difference in the battle for the spoon, but you've missed adding my collect for Humidor.
LRO
Rosehill R4: 7 : Antonio Giuseppe : WIN : 20
Rosehill R5: 7 : Endless Drama : PLACE : 10
Rosehill R6: 5 : Comin’ Through : WIN : 20
Rosehill R7: 12 : She Will Reign : WIN : 30
Rosehill R8: 1 : Music Magnate : WIN : 20
no worries - i noticed an error with one of the formulas on the sheet in your bit last night, i think i fixed it in one spot but forgot to carry it over to the pointsQuote:
Originally Posted by PC14
will fix it this evening
how's my life going hey, organising a tipping competition in my spare time :yap:
on that note - if we're going to move ahead with another KOTH (which i'm keen for) i was thinking of setting up a punters club on SB if people were interested. i.e. one person each week for $5 or whatever, rotates through the comp and we can have some frothies at the end of it if we win anything. (by the way some of us are going we'll be lucky to get anything hahaha). let me know your thoughts