New Major Signing coming to Magic very soon!!!Quote:
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New Major Signing coming to Magic very soon!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bull fighter
Sam Kerr?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Magician
The Jets academy probably needs an overhaul. There are alot of talented girls playing locally who ideally should be within the Jets program.Quote:
Originally Posted by onlooker
W/bay 5 Olympic 1
Adriana Konjarski in form 17 goals in 7 games surely jets could use someone like her in the team bay played some good football tonight from what I watched on Bar TVQuote:
Originally Posted by 2285
Andrews Cass and Tara Pender played exceptional tonight also thought the new keeper played well
Will be interesting to watch Maitland and Magic come up against each other Olympic will be hoping Jemma House is back soon
And Magic spending more and more cash on their womens program would be good to see what Dobson would have come out of retirement for must be some big Ca$h but hey if you’ve got it why not spend it cudos to them
I've known Dobson for a number of years and she has never been a mercenary, just out for money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Thang
She took last year off to support her partner who was going through chemo. Now that he has been given a positive diagnosis from his doctor, she obviously has decided to play again.
Have to agree here. Rhali played her last year at Merewether without payment and was keen to try and give back to local football.Quote:
Originally Posted by travellingman
You may need more then one based on last nights resultQuote:
Originally Posted by The Magician
Adamstown matching it the past few weeks. Magic and Bay still clear leaders.
How long till House is back for the Ladies at Darling Street ?
Olympic starting to lose touch with the top 4, It’s only early but some decent sides above them.
Wrong, announcement today that she is coaching Jets again.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAPDADDY
She was at last nights catch up games for the U/13’s and U/14’s jets girls. Hopefully that wasn’t just for show and she will get involved to fix up a few things, not that I’m holding much hope she can or will. But time will tell!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bull fighter
WBay 16-0 NL
It’s time for something to happen it’s clear NL committee don’t give a shit about the womens program I feel bad for the poor girls playing it was hard to watch last night
There’s not enough quality to sustain a premier womens competition in our region (yet)Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Thang
It’s unfair on these girls, the coaches, and others in the competition who are propped up by a few individual guns in their side getting a fitness runout. We call it a “premier football” competition, then get upset when not everyone in a shallow player pool can live up to that tagline.
There needs to be:
- a grace period from us armchair supporters on results for half a decade for clubs to develop younger talent to hopefully produce more quality first graders (not Matilda’s, not w league players, just competent players for the top division of Newcastle, of which there are nowhere near enough - no team has 11 of them from what I’ve seen)
Or
- the competition is reduced in size.
Until then, we’re forcing players who aren’t up to it into a situation in which they are judged as premier footballers. It’s not fair on them.
Not sure what new Lambton can do outside of splashing cash.
Curious as to “hard to watch” last night - actually it was the first game I’ve caught of new lambtons as it was on bartv and I was encouraged by those players continuing to stick to the game plan and to try to play positive football (playing out from the back and sticking to their principles) despite the score line. To me that shows some mental strength.
6/7 excellent players at warners bay, the rest just hoofed the moment there was any pressure. It’s almost like this comp has a tier 1 of special players, then just skips to tier 3.
Feel for new Lambton but you know, kudos to those girls and that coach for keeping them on track and sticking to their principles when they’re getting flogged. How easy would it be to just abandon game plan as a player in that scenario? We’ve all been guilty of that as players.
NL have certainly come along way from having the same player budget between the WNPL side and Mens HIT side to now this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Thang
Sad thing is, alot of these girls will just walk away from the game, it isn't fun to get spanked like this.
Are there enough female players in Newcastle across different levels to field 2 x divisions similar to NPL/NL1?Do they abandon 17's girls and move girls straight into ressies/1st and the ones that arent ready play in the ressies/1sts in the 2nd division?That way there would be no need to pay players in the 2nd tier,but the right type of player (youth) are taking the spots so they either then progress to an NPL club or have promotion/relegation?Just saying this clearly having no idea how many girls are out there but understanding the need to keep growing the pie in the fairest way possible?
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Originally Posted by sapdad
I am not sure of the best way forward, but definitely, there is a need to understand and accept that there are many players in this competition who are not 'premier' level, and it's not their fault that NNSW wants to brand the comp that way.
I like abandoning the top age group. Maybe 14s, 16s, Ressies with an under 20s quota and firsts is the way to move forward.
Is there a points system in WPL? Last night you had a handful of women who have played in our national competition lining up against players barely old enough to drive a car.
I think with a two tier comp, the gap would be too large and you would end up in the same situation with the promoted team coming up.
Is the gap from 17’s to reserves too big ?
Say have 19’s Reserves and Firsts on a separate day. That way clubs can hold onto older experienced players in reserves and have a blend of the better youth and a strong 19’s comp ?
The younger reserves now would be some of the earlier association SAP squads just hitting senior football or dropping out in a crowded senior league once they age out of 17’s.
Keep the 8 team comp, There’s plenty of youth coming through. It will build, It may be harsh on some teams now but with better coaching through the youth it’s only going to develop.
The only restrictions NNSWF place on the competition is that you can only have 3 players that are ‘current’ National league players, WB have 2 former National league players which give them a total of 5. I think there are only 3 clubs without current or former National league players, New Lambton, Adamstown and Maitland.Quote:
Originally Posted by jessepinkman
Probably time for Northern to review and reduce to it to 2 players for each club.
Demoralising season for the poor NL girls.
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Originally Posted by Game Leader
I agree with the last paragraph - comments like ones a few posts above by those scorned by former clubs may feel nice to type, but at the end of the day they just demoralise and hurt the players who are a byproduct of a bigger issue, and just doing their best.
It will build, but we need to give those who are copping the heat in firsts across various clubs a bit of grace, they still turn up and play and train and be positive role models for the youth who will take the pitch in firsts one day.
yeah, that is a bit rough - 5 is a lot - of course they are going to flog a bunch of young players. The fact they didn't in rd 1 is very worrying from a coaching perspective I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bull fighter
From where I sit, having that many players stacked in one side hurts the competition on both ends. For the big clubs, big players can gloss over tactical or coaching issues, which hinder development when those players move o (look at NL as a result, hopefully doesn't happy to wbay)
And for the NL girls, its going to take a very special type of player to stick that out for a few years and not just quit back to park football or quit football altogether
National League girls didn’t play for first 3 or 4 games, Jets coach require them to have break prior to jumping into the local comp after intensity of highest league. Shows Warners Bay would probably struggle to make top 4 without Andrews, Allen & Davis.Quote:
Originally Posted by jessepinkman
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Originally Posted by Bull fighter
yeah ok that makes sense - and probably reinforces a lot of the discourse on here today. If we want to develop and solely develop, evening out the comp as much as possible is the best way to do that.
Lopsided rosters where those few individuals make such a big difference to a teams outcome doesn't really develop anyone. If anything it makes average players comfortable.
Blow out scores not quarantined to the women, NNSWF Northern League One reserve grade mens game finished 17 nil last weekend. All NNSWF ‘PREMIER’ competitions in both seniors and juniors seriously lacking depth, needs a reassessment by the supreme powers.
"Ressies with an under 20s quota" - This is currently the case. I think there must be 7 or 8 U20's on the team sheet.
There is no doubt women's football is a work in progress, but the progress is there. Azzurri/Merewether reserve grade last season took almost everyone who wanted to play. This year there was real pressure for spots from the successful U17's team, plus a few ex Jets players. There are ex Azzurri players who would be starters in NL 1st grade, but they have gone to play ID A grade, for various reasons.
There is no magic bullet for this - sure you can throw money at it to get older players to play longer, but is that really solving the problem? Al Logue was done two years ago, but Magic have enticed her to keep playing, and she is still the best goal keeper in the competition.
The huge amount of work put in by the clubs and the coaches is making a difference, the Azzurri and WB reserves teams are the best I have ever seen in the competition, and those girls will be pushing for 1st grade places, and if they don't get them hopefully moving to other clubs. Some of the WB res team have already played a lot of 1st grade.
Everything takes time, keep the faith ;-)
House playing reserve grade today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Game Leader
Has there ever been a bigger score then 16-0?
17 nil in a mens reserve grade match last weekend, bel swans v Nick NockQuote:
Originally Posted by SAPDADDY
Some solid results and good games to watch this weekend old Ryan won’t be happy with his result but I’ll tell you who’d be more upset is the magic committee that ground looks terrible a magic player rolled her ankle running to grab the ball for a throw in for all the money spent seems like a waste now with all the rain and wether but was a cracking game to watch
Azzurri and Maitland great game also
And New Lambton hiring the coach they sacked last year bad to worse for them
I did notice him back on the sideline and saw that their normal coach was amongst the bench players..Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Thang
Interesting move and I will be interested to see where his priorities lie when New Lambton and Emerging Jets have match day clashes.
Didnt he leave due to personal issues? Don't believe he was sacked from memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Thang
Magic Park is terrible. Used to be pinnacle of grounds in region. Now looks like a mudpit with building wrecks scattered around the place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Thang
He was told to move on because otherwise around 9 first graders were going to quit is what I heard but who knows hopefully they haven’t gotten rid of Mackenzie the current coach that wouldn’t be fair to her especially when they haven’t helped her at allQuote:
Originally Posted by jessepinkman
how haven't they helped her at all?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Thang
17-0 this week, must have been a welcome back for the old sacked coachQuote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
This is harsh. I know the club put a lot into the pitch pre season but the weather has played them a horrible hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reds Forever
I do agree on the building wrecks around the ground. What the hell is going on there? The place is starting to resemble a used motor home yard. Maybe the tip was full?
Charlestown, CooksHill and Broadmeadow did ground work over summer. Two successful one failed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spell Check
Maitland have added to their depth over the last week or two after racking up some injuries which have left our Res grade short on troops.
Hannah Bourke ( Sydney) Kiarra Lewis and Jemma Lawson ( Adamstown) are all welcome additions to the senior squad.
Kiarra Lewis is a good pick up for MaitlandQuote:
Originally Posted by onlooker
Old Ryan seems to be losing his seniors players over the last couple of seasons
So good that the competition is really a lot tighter then I expected after the first couple of rounds.
They probably aged out of his first grade.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Thang