mate i was only fishing about the afl call,
but yes i agree olmpic are stepping up.. but my predictions are the same
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mate i was only fishing about the afl call,
but yes i agree olmpic are stepping up.. but my predictions are the same
Interesting you think edge are one of the top 2 teams, given that Olympic and Lambton finished in front of them/.Quote:
Originally Posted by wannabe
Also given that Olympic just beat Edge and that Lambton beat both Edgeworth and Olympic twice and Magic once.
Interesting theory on Edge being one of the top 2 teams!
I do think out of the top 5 teams there is nothing between the top 4, that anyone of these teams faced against each other could go either way on the day.
After the weekend I cant include Weston in those 4.
Athough Weston could go the other way and sometimes a team that has been smashed can come out the next week and lift their performance and cause an upset!
Up for some exciting Semis.
Although Weston suffered an embarrassing loss on the weekend, and were outplayed by a better team, i would expect a huge improvement against Edgy this week. If you look at their games against top six teams this year that was only their second loss. They beat Olympic twice, Magic once and could have easily taken a point from their second game, and have drawn with edgy both times this year in which the second game Edgeworths performance was one of the better I have seen this year, the Weston defence was hard to break down. Not saying the Bears will get over the line on the Saturday, but it will be a very tight game in my opinion.
The game on Sunday between Jaffas and Olympic also shapes up to be a tight affair, with Olympics defence hard to break down, I think Lambton might just sneak home.
Olympic 2-1
Edgeworth 3-1
Does anyone else find it stupid how all the Jaffas articles in the Herald this season have been about how they are underdogs and are over achieving this season?
I mean FFS they have spent close to the most (if not the most) in the league and have man for man the best squad. All this bullshit that most haven't played in the NBN League before is a joke. Every single player has except for the Central Coast lads and the ones who have been professionals for their whole careers!
With that squad to not win it is under achieving not over achieving!
Perhaps Kevin Cranson being heavily involved at the Jafs gets them all these fluff pieces!
So your point is? All I see is some whinging about how the new boys beat the majority of the league, thats all.Quote:
Originally Posted by FaroeMassive
haha youve lost it mate. herald tipped jaffas to come 9th, didnt hear many people tipping us for glory at the start of the season. admittedly now we are contenders but the squad isnt that expensive and werent superstars at the start of the season. we had maj and abe wheelhouse? we then had some great pickups with ireland in goals (who was an injury doubt and not sure if he was even going to play, so a risky acquisition) and obviously great to get Jobe.Quote:
Originally Posted by FaroeMassive
other than that we have kept the core of the team that we played in NEWFM, who wouldnt be on significant cash (im assuming, i have no knowledge of player contracts), and picked up players who were not big names- tommy smart, connor evans, robbie ambrogetti etc etc.
sorry for the essay- but its true we were underdogs, and its a credit to the players/coaches that they have all lifted to be contenders- tommy smart and connor evans making the northern select side is proof. also of the top of my head tanch has given first grade runs to at least 5 players who have come through U/19s at Jaffas, which is pretty good from a side freshly promoted?
Not whinging...good on them for beating most of the league. But you don't hear Magic or Olympic calling themselves underdogs nor did Charlestown claim they over achieved last year?
Just saying that the Jafs need to stop with the rubbish they sprout about being underdogs and over achieving. Facts are they have best squad in the league and are spending more money than most (probably all) in the league.
Underdogs are teams that don't have the same quality or resources of their opponents...The Jafs have more money and quality than most at the moment, why the continual dribble in the Herald every second week.
Just because you are a newly promoted team doesn't mean you're an underdog or spending small cash...Look at Monaco newly promoted in the French Ligue 1. Huge money and signing huge players..they are not an underdog despite being their first year up for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBean
I don't want to list every player one by one, but the 3 you mentioned all have decent NBN experience and 1 was wanted by the Jets, they are hardly no name players.
You have got 3 players who have been fulltime professionals in the starting 11 and all are under well under 30...what other team has that?
Jaffas have done ok...but they aren't underdogs and never were.
i just find it hard to believe that jaffas would have a higher wage bill than at least 3 other clubs. maybe they'll be paying more next year with the improvement of a lot of their players, but at the start of this season there couldnt have been many that commanded big wages. and the ones that did came for other reasons (maj mates with tanch, jobe to play with his brother, ireland had mates at the club).
My information is a little different to yours...Top earner is on closer to $1000 a game than $500 and total wage bill is closer to $80k than $50k.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBean
lol where do you get your information! as i said, i have no intimate knowledge of player wages, so maybe youre right mate. do you have knowledge of wage bills at other clubs though?? for comparisons sake?
Monaco played in a UCL Final in the last 15 years . They were never really a small time clubQuote:
Originally Posted by FaroeMassive
Mate all i can say is well done to the jaffas,Quote:
Originally Posted by FaroeMassive
first year in the league and a top 2 finish, give credit where credit is due.
But lets see if they can back it up next year and not have that second year syndrome, i thought some teams this year expected to turn up and get gifted the points against jaffas.. Now they should been seen as a threat.(a bit like azzurri this year)
Has anybody noticed how farroe massive was very pro Jaffas and now all of a sudden he has done a u turn?Quote:
Originally Posted by FaroeMassive
It wouldn't be because you have had a fall out with the club or anything like that !!???.....
Come on grow up mate.
No need to bag the club because of that, be professional!
haha how do YOU know so much information about our club!Quote:
Originally Posted by FaroeMassive
You know our wage budget, our players, what individual players are getting paid??
Are you our president? Secretary perhaps?
If so why are you bagging our club??
SOMETHING DOES NOT ADD UP!
and for your info your along long way away from the wage budget, individual budgets and players who play NBN!
we have 5 known NBN players not 15!
Faroe you say you don't want to list every player (you must know a lot about us), but I will list them for you!
Here are a list of our players in the first grade squad who HAVE NOT been regular 1st grade players or even played 1 full season in first grade NBN League.
1. Tom Smart
2. Mick Lawrence
3. Terry Dries
4. Matt Kenny
5. Adrian Perisic ( a reserve grade player at Lakes as stated by Chris Turner)
6. Robbie Ambroghetti
7. Matt Wilks
8. Ben Herron
9. Riley McNaughton
10. Geoff Gonninan
2 or 3 of these guys may have had an odd game in 1st grade to fill in, but havnt been a first grade player
Here are a list who has played NBN or higher
1. John Maj
2. Jobe
3. Danny Ireland
4. Connor Evans
5. Abe
Hopefully that reflects the rubbish this bloke has been talking, again with no substance or proof behind his comments
We have not bragged at all, but there is no denying we are extremely happy and proud that our 1st grade has done far beyond expectation, The herald tipped us to come 9th.
2nd is a great achievement for us in our first year. Hopefully we can back it up next year with a god finish :)
So mate you are talking baloney and making yourself look bad.
Moderators, please, if someone is going to post a clubs wage bill please have some substance or evidence behind it or ban users like this for posting rubbish and trying to demoralise a club.
If you can fly under the radar...well done
If you can get paid better than most...again well done
I fail to see the relevance of FMs post tbh
Come on jaf jaf,not bagging Jaffas here,well done on a great season first year up. But I think this is the point faroe is trying to make in a roundabout way. Again you try and play it down. It is a small town and all the players talk and know who is on what,but it is no ones concern what each clubs budget is. If you have a hard working committee and can spend more on players than other clubs so what. Spending big money doesn't guarantee success just look at lakes,but I do have to pick on how you always talk your squad down. Tom smart got plenty of first grade time at magic in the strongest first grade squad over two years. Ambroghetti played first grade at phoenix sought and Olympic,started in at least 8 matches last year in Olympics minor premier side.matt Wilkes played first grade at edgy before travelling overseas. Perisic played first grade for lakes for two years including the season lakes ran second. I also think your leaving the best left fullback in the comp mick sessions out of your squad,sure he plays first grade for you last time I checked. So realistically from your starting 11, Ireland, smart,Wilkes perisic,sessions,ambrogheeti,Evans wheelhouse,littler wheelhouse,maj have all played plenty of nbn not to mention jobs being a 200 game a league captain and Ireland having played in england. Hang on a minute jaf jaf,I agree with Faroe,stop trying to talk it down you underdogQuote:
Originally Posted by Jaf Jaf
Did I mention Paul devine
Quote:
Originally Posted by FaroeMassive
Welcome to coaching 101.
No matter how good you're going, you are always the underdog.
Des Hasler/Craig Bellamy do it, Gypos do it, Alex Ferguson did it.
Jesus, if Don Bradmans 1948 Invincibles were around today they would call themselves underdogs.
Nothing original about the Jaffas approach there.
I don't think anyone is talking it down, if anything we are tryin to stay grounded rather than bagging
We are saying the young guys Jo havnt been able to cement a spot are "unproven" first graders IN NBN!
Tom smart couldn't cement a spot, Ambroghetti couldn't cement a spot.
If you compare the other 4 top 5 teams and even sth Cardiff, Charlestown and lakes, we have far less players who are cemented or proven 1st grade nbn players.
As I said some of these guys may have played nbn 1st grade time to time but never been a first team regular.
Nobody is talking it down! In fact these guys are guys who should be credited with playing this level and proving themselves.
However the Herald did know our squad and picked us to come 9th for a reason! The names in our squad!
We were underdogs all year. After our first loss to Valentine everyone was saying a long year for the Jaffas. Never heard any of you guys standing up and saying hang in a minute! They have the highest paid squad, they have a gun team! They are not under dogs they are favorites!
And I'm sure you still wouldn't if we were second last.
However I am glad that now after our performance everyone is putting us up here with Olympic and magic rather than down there with valentine like they all were at the start of the season!
Not sure why we went from everyone picking us to be second last at the start of the season to everyone now saying you guys were never under dogs!
If you go back to the start of this thread u won't find one person that had us picked for top 5.
I mean we wouldn't expect you to say you had a great season Jaffas above expectation well done.
Fair point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaf Jaf
If nobody predicts you to finish in top half of table and you finish 2nd I would call that an underdog?
Not sure how you could argue with that.
However now based on the season Jafas have had they would now not be underdogs and have to be considered contenders.
Fair points tbh. QPR had some of the highest paid players, such as Julio Cesar, and they still got relegated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaf Jaf
I would call it over performing, which goes back to FM's point that we weren't.Quote:
Originally Posted by dicanio
At the end of the day:
Jaffas were underdogs at the start of the season, no arguments, they were. Newly promoted. As will Rosebuds compared to the rest of the league, bar maybe Lakes, dependant on how they recruit.
Have they over performed in comparison to people's expectations? Coming 2nd when tipped 9th? Yep.
Are they now underdogs? Depends on the game. Against Magic? I reckon they are. Against Valentine? Maybe not.
Who cares who they have got playing for them, credit to them for running second, if they want to be underdogs, be it, if they want to be favourites, be it, who really cares, good luck to all five teams in the running, next year its azzurris turn :)
Threading a long bow with this one pal. He started pretty much every game in first grade in 2011 and 2012.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaf Jaf
Weston won 7-6 on pens
no mention of the red card and the coach being punted?Quote:
Originally Posted by 2285
More information???Quote:
Originally Posted by outsider
Just saw Dodds miss on nbn news. How do you miss that.3 yards out with an open goal and stands on the ball. Which coach got punted,they have 6 of themQuote:
Originally Posted by outsider
Edgy will have something to complain about, they always do
woodsy with a stupid red card for throwing a ball at a player, when edgy were 1-0 up and cruising. seemed like weston player might have given woodsy a nudge with his foot when he was on the ground and woodsy got up and reacted to it, had to go. weston then came back into the game, although palozzi looked a threat throughout the match. wilson (i think) got sent to the stands at full time after saying something to ref. edgy probably better team, weston had some good chances though. weston equaliser a bomb. edgys keeper should have saved at least 1 of the penalties that he let in, probably 2. shoutout to edgys 6th penalty taker pinging his top corner! thats all i can think off to share!
from the herald weston's coach.HTML Code:"Pratty is Pratty and he got involved in a few mind games at one stage with one of them, and as a keeper you’re always looking to unsettle penalty takers.’"
If he is referring to edgeworths second penalty pratty was trying to put the guy off. But the player just pushed him out of the way, and slotted the penalty. Mind game didn't work IMO.
Just on that why wasn't that player sent off as well? He struck another player similar to woods throwing the ball at the weston players. Surely if things were to be consistent the penalty taker should have been sent? Pretty woeful game by the referee IMO.
Good game overall in tough conditions the was really blowing in regulation time especially. Weston very lucky winners.
Scores from today?
Jaffas up 4-2 over Olympic in penalties after a 1 all draw after 120 mins. Jobe Wheelhouse got sent after about 75 minutes
Jaffas got to take their first penalty 3 times because twice Swancott moved off his line before the Jaffas player had kicked it and saved the pen. Both correct calls by the assistant. Ireland saved the crucial penalty to send the Jaffas to Wanderers next week.
Thought Jobe was hard done by as was Swancott on the 2nd retake...officials still believing people show up to watch them.Good atmosphere at edden.Next week will be interesting. p.s $5 for a can is robberyQuote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
Your kidding, $5 bucks for a can, lousy sods, I hope they got plenty of complaintsQuote:
Originally Posted by seldom
So does that mean Jobe out for GF if Jafs qualify next week. 2nd red for season, 2 games rest.
I was videoing the pens and Swancott was a foot off his line for most of the Lambton pens. Only reason the ref didn't call it was because he saved those two (good saves too btw).Quote:
Originally Posted by seldom
After the Jaffas performance today I can't see them making the grand final.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beast
Can only recall 1 or 2 shots and were outplayed for majority of the game.
Olympic need to start killing the game off by taking there chances
Surely they will appeal due to his good record.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beast