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Top level in this country is clearly A-League. My point - I am tired of hearing how good E Jets kids are from their parents, thinking they are going to make it big because they have been identified early and consider themselves "elite"!Quote:
Originally Posted by Why Blue
I agree with you WB, it is a major achievement to make first grade NPL, if my boy can make it that far, he will have achieved big time.
Totally agree, there are plenty of 17yo playing NPL who are as good playing for a club.Quote:
Originally Posted by GO AWAY
Case in hand with two boys who have been identified early, developed by the system/program and at the critical time get cut ???Quote:
Originally Posted by hamburgler
But that's my point, do the math's all you parents.......most will get cut and fed back into clubs
Agee, my son has always ( well since he has grown up a little ) set NPL as his goal, recently had the opportunity to train with a first grade squad and wow, opened his eyes, of course the quality, pace & intensity was much higher than anything he had ever encounted, including EJ. Gave him great opportunity to see were his game needs to be developed and has increased his desire to make that squad
Had to laugh at Eland having a cry because some of the players left for someone else, welcome to football. I doubt the Emerging Jets have never poached or signed on players from other clubs and Aleague academies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Why Blue
Might be afraid of the knock-on effect this could cause, wants to try and prevent it getting worse or he knows more kids are looking elsewhere. Or as someone said earlier a political move to allow Football NSW to let them into their competition.Quote:
Must be more to this, a lot of carry on for three kids ???
Quick check of EJ squads on NNSWF own website shows 5 kids from Central Coast added to EJ squads for 2016 on top of already existing numbers from CC
Typical Eland & NNSWF being political ......trying to push thier barrow for EJ inclusion into Sydney NPL
Face facts Sydney NPL don't see a need to include EJ's as they don't see how thier inclusion will enhance the comp, based on EJ performance at organised competitions
So back to the same.......get the right kids......get the right coaches and perhaps the teams will perform better and justify inclusion as they will enhance the comp
Simple !!!!!!
I remember years ago, about 5, Macquarie U12 won the state championship in Coffs Harbour beating Newcastle in the pointscore, come selections for NNSW ( at the time ) to play in Sydney every Wednesday night, i think there was 4 macquarie kids got in and 12 newcastle kids........ point is, its who you know at rep football unfortunately and it shouldnt be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Why Blue
been happening for 40 yrs or moreQuote:
Originally Posted by GO AWAY
Probably has but does that mean we just keep accepting itQuote:
Originally Posted by hawk
I've always had a laugh at how come so many of our elite players have parents who are, coaches, club committee members etc
And also how if one child is gifted then the whole family seems to be as well
Laughing along with you BJQuote:
Originally Posted by big jim
Coaches and managers sons !!!!!!! wtf
Have anyone actually spoken with players and their parents who have left / been dropped from the EJ program?Quote:
Originally Posted by Why Blue
We were speaking with a few this season and they could not believe the gap / step down between EJ and what would be known as "premier clubs" in the area. By the end of the season - these kids now back in clubs - performance has droppped considerably as has their desire to play. Disillusioned.
Did anyone watch the NPL 17 Grandfinal?Quote:
Originally Posted by hamburgler
The 15's EJ's (with 3 x 14 year olds in the team) made Magics 17yo's look lost and well short
Certainly the EJ's u15s did well in the end and showed the value of quality and a hugely greater volume of coaching/training. And with the EJ players among the better, as well as often bigger and older taken from the clubs to join their program they should have an advantage and rightly should play up a year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry Dawson
As for the difference in age you mentioned that is somewhat misleading. I believe only 1 player was an under 14 player (1 day off being u15) and perhaps the other 2 hadn't had their birthday prior to GF. But of course many if not the majority of u17 players in most NPL clubs are only in the u16 age group and still eligible for u17 next year. You would therefore assume that on average there would probably be more than 3 players in u17 teams that were still only 15 come date of GF. 12 to 18 months might be average age differential at this particular age group.
As for other EJ age groups, some are better than others but this tends to relate very much to selections and coaching. The selection process is always debatable but getting quality coaching, at the EJ's or clubs, is like trying to win the lottery. Anyone can have a certificate, but to be able to relate to the kids, analyse and develop skills and positional play, recognise weaknesses (and correct) and structure game tactics, is a rarity. Getting a coach/manager who is only there because of a connection to certain team members, or one who allows "positioning" of some parents is not so rare.
Not to mention when a talented player is not reselected when their parents or the player has had a falling out with someone on the committee.Quote:
Originally Posted by big jim
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Originally Posted by Barry Dawson
Welcome Barry
Yep speak every day with a player/parent who left the EJ's !!!!
Our own experience is quite different to what you have described, but yes in general there is a gap in intensity but don't confuse intensity with ability, for intensity you need all the squad to be committed and that is the difference you probably don't get that at all clubs so the kid had to be disciplined
My sons ability nor his intensity has dropped nor has he become dillisional, but then again he didn't go to magic !!!!
Sorry Barry didn't watch too much, celebrating CCB 15's gf win !!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry Dawson
But I think you have missed the point
Any good 16 or 17 year old is goining to be playing 19's ......so 17 NPL is probably not the strongest. I know this year my son playing U19's and I think 13 of squad could play 17's but club is building youth
Also yes this years EJ 15's defiantly improved under CZ no doubt but again don't confuse improvement with thier ability or them being the best
My bet is that every kid would improve under CZ
And yep only 1x 14yo but same kid us training now with Jets Youth and is pretty handy
Also look at Magic 17's .... Most gone now...... Team was done by years end
you guys making me giggle , I hope you have future socceroos . but reality is your stars discover girls and beer before they get signed to stardom
Cars mate.....you forgot carsQuote:
Originally Posted by Ker-Plunk
What you say is precisely why my son plays club, so he can have a girlfriend and a surf and a life.......and I can have $2000 more beer......or Canadian Clubs
you got ya head screwed on the right way . just let em play
don't know if this should start another thread , but im with you with the Canadian clubs !!
Yeah a new thread......
EJ's or Canadian Clubs......were is a parents money better spent ??????
Clubies X 1 here