Yeah I read that somewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Premy
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Yeah I read that somewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Premy
so the carney swap with sydney involves naumoff and hoole
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football...3052ccef83c459
Why the **** would we want Hoole ? The kid has no end product. Thanks but no thanks.
As long as people get emotional about this bringing them back home bullshit the Jets will continue upon this downhill spiral.
Nothing personal about Hoole either. He was a fabulous player at magic and in the few games I saw him play for the Jets Youth - but he was no better than Chilli or Kale - both of whom could be had for a lot less dollars.
hoole im not a fan of....no disrespect when i say that, but please scored one? goal in his career from the spot. Naumoff wouldn be a bad pick up tho. got pace and can hit a ball
I wouldn't be too upset with Hoole back. But would be nice to try something else rather than resigning the same player 6 months after he left as it does seem a bit stupid on both parties behalf.
Hoole is 22 and has shown nothing. Arnold has only used him 8 times this season as well so it's more than obvious Arnold doesn't think he's up to it either.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty
Carney from a coin perspective is probably equivalent of those two, I think Hoole is a good player. Couldn't finish but is a good player
Naumoff I rate, would take
Problem is I don't see who else we'd grab, being realistic who else could we grab from Sydney assuming we do the deal
wouldnt mind seeing who this european mid is getting signed by the end of the week. knowing this mob its probly flores
We should go for Naumoff and Sebastian Ryall. Anything less Sydney can **** off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark325
I want Hoole to come back just for the lulz from Hawk.
Bloke hates him.
Not too keen on pedophiles sorry, pass.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
**** off Hoole ....ADP or nothingQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
5 5 5Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
My Thoughts exactly.
Bring Hoole back just for Hawks meltdown alone.
Lets not forget he would still be our best player though
5 5 5
So we trade our best player for two squaddies, typical Jets.
On Australia Day and everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
I mean, this club hates it's fans there's no doubt about it. But someone in HQ has it in bad for Hawk and wants him destroyed.
Anyone who doesn't want Hoole has deadset got rocks in their heads. You've got idiots in here crying out for a creative player and then turn their nose up at one of the most creative, quick and skilful players in the league.
I was at the City v Sydney game a few weeks back and he absolutely ran rings around their defence all game. He's not getting enough game time at Sydney because they have a very experienced front 3. He's got Socceroo potential.
I'll give you that he is yet to score a goal in the league, but that will come. He's been a bit unlucky at times, but has missed a few sitters.
I also rate that Blackwood guy who plays up front.
He reminds me of Thomas Muller.
exact type of player we should be playing as the 2nd def mid to try and get something going.
But I've been saying similar since he killed it in that GF for Magic.
Anyway coach will get the boys to kick it long and he can run up the wing all day like the rest of them.
I would take this trade in a heartbeat. If we were to sign Carney again, the very next day his agent would be shopping him around again. It happened last season after 6-7 games and this season.
Naumoff and Hoole are fantastic young players. How you could not want 2 quality players for 1 is beyond me. Hole alone would be a fantastic swap.
Sitting on it for a while I see no reason not too take it. Hoole and Naumoff are gun players, well worth making a trade and in the long run I'd say getting the two better playersQuote:
Originally Posted by borat
Keep them into next season and that sorts out left and right mid no problems
OK
Just looking at it in the cold light of day now.
Exactly why would Hoole come back here??
He left us not because we were not competitive in offering him a deal.
He left because we are a basketcase of a club that would strangle his career if he hung around.
Why exactly would 6 months later he want to come back and strangle his career again??
It ain't like we have had a massive turnaround. Hell you could argue we are not much better than we were this time last year under Muppet and Tinkler in some ways
I understand he hasn't had the greatest run at Smurfs but why wouldn't he stick around there at least to the end of the season to see if things change for him before wanting to come back to Newy??
It looks lke Arnold doesn't want him so that would be one reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
You don't have Socceroo potential at 22 Parskey - you are a Socceroo at 22. Hoole is not and will be another Kanta / James Brown / Virgilli / Patafta money pit of disappointment for the Jets.Quote:
Originally Posted by parksey
He has no end product and in the position he plays that is crucial. No goals from open play in 58 appearances - that's failure my man. He's barely worth minimum wage let alone what his management will be asking.
If he comes good buy him then but don't waste more time and money hoping he miraculously evolves into a super star
Ah that's right, if you're not playing for the national team by 22 you should just retire.
Worked well if we had that philosophyQuote:
Originally Posted by parksey
Timmy Cahill would never have got a run
He didn't get a run because he had already played as a junior for another country and the rules forbid him playing for Australia.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
When the rules were changed in 2004 he had the option of playing for Australia and did so. Immediately.
Nice try.
Nice strawman Parksey. The facts are 58 games no goals in open play from an attacking player. Sorry, that's just not good enough at A-league level let alone talk of him being a Socceroo.Quote:
Originally Posted by parksey
I really hope he turns it around and proves me wrong but it's a long shot at best.
The club needs to find players ready now not players that have a 10% chance in maybe being ready in five years time
mate, he's easily up to a-league standard. he's a consistently good player for sydney, and was our best player last season. he is almost unplayable in this league on his day.
That does not change anything cause at 22 Cahill was still a League One player at Milwall and wouldn't have been picked for the Soccerroos anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
It wasn't until 2004 when Milwall made the FA Cup Final he came on the radar for the NT anyway
I think we should just close the forum. Jets far too depressing to talk about..
At least when griffiths and regan played they played with total commitment.
Nothing left on the park.
Theres just no confidence or belief.
No way ....the foz is a therapeutic tool. Use it "To Let Go" :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by riverboy
Fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by parksey
Watching tonight's game I can't see how Naumoff could help our cause
I thought the point of gifting Carney to Sydney would be to help their cause by giving them a proven player while removing two squad players off their books.Quote:
Originally Posted by lquiquer
The point is deal goes ahead we end up with a donkey and probably 2Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
IMO if we cant pitch a side with football talent then we play like Millwall and kick the fk out of any opposition that comes here.
Make them earn the pts. A fortress could almost be earned.
We get our usual loss or draw but it will be worth a watch. bout the only way Ill keep interest
If carney wants out then we should trade him. Id take naumoff straight out, throw in max burgess. 2 for the future.
There is no future for the Jets.Quote:
Originally Posted by riverboy
im hearing strong words of the new striker is danish....morten nordstrand is his name. was a free agent, will be announced by friday