Club board should be made up as 33% private ownership group, 33% sponsors representatives and 33% supporter shareholders.
That's some Stevie Wonder Paul McCartney shit right there kids.
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Club board should be made up as 33% private ownership group, 33% sponsors representatives and 33% supporter shareholders.
That's some Stevie Wonder Paul McCartney shit right there kids.
I'd buy in at $500
m8 I was going to employ you as my first order of business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pico
Victory are not offering shares to the public. DiPeitro and Biasin have bought out Beltacky and Stata.... whatever their names are.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/...b0e9c80c14a5cfQuote:
Originally Posted by De-Champ
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A slice of Melbourne Victory is for sale with doors open to everyday fans to buy a stake in the club, for as little as $500.
That has been disbanded (for want of a better term) That was originally the plan, but since then, the two original sharheolders have sold out their holdings to Biasin and Di Pietro.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
good way to pump up the value of your shares by threatening to sell them to chumps that might want to buy them
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...Street-014.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by q-money
Interestingly they paid less per share than what was offered to the public.Quote:
Originally Posted by q-money
what fools! they're not going to make money that way!
The cost of doing business with one consortium versus a whole bunch of Mong fans would more than be worth it.Quote:
Originally Posted by De-Champ
lol
If done properly I'd buy in with as much as I could afford
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/27...e-team/?cs=306Quote:
Middleby pleads for supporters to forgive team
JETS chief executive Robbie Middleby hopes fans will give Newcastle’s players and coach Phil Stubbins a chance to redeem themselves but admits that ‘‘actions speak louder than words’’.
Friday night’s 4-0 trouncing from Brisbane at Hunter Stadium, which left the Jets without a win after six games, has prompted a predictably hostile reaction from frustrated followers, many of whom have labelled it the worst performance in the club’s history.
Middleby said fans were entitled to their opinions and everyone at the club was ‘‘apologetic’’ for producing such a lacklustre effort on home turf. But he called on the Novocastrian faithful to ‘‘stick by us’’ and was confident of a vastly improved performance against Western Sydney Wanderers at Parramatta Stadium on Saturday.
‘‘I know it’s been tough so far, but we need their support,’’ Middleby told the Newcastle Herald.
‘‘We need the support from everyone. The players, the staff, we’re all hurting, because we feel like we let everyone down on Friday night.
‘‘But we need their support if we’re going to thrive.’’
Brisbane coach Mike Mulvey expressed similar sentiments at the post-match press conference on Friday when he was asked about Newcastle fans booing their team off the pitch.
‘‘We’ve played four games and we’ve lost three at home, but our fans have been more patient,’’ Mulvey said.
‘‘That comes from having a level of success over the years, which Newcastle hasn’t enjoyed.
‘‘It’s time now for them to back their players, back their manager. That’s the only way you can achieve anything in this game, if everybody sticks together,’’ Mulvey said.
Middleby was disappointed that Stubbins, who is six games into a two-year tenure, was already attracting scrutiny over his future.
‘‘It’s early in the season,’’ Middleby said.
‘‘We’ve got faith in Phil and the players that that performance will not be a regular thing.
‘‘To me, I don’t see why we should be commenting on job security ... it’s six games into the season.
‘‘We’ve had a tough run but Phil’s our coach.
‘‘He’s got a new team, a lot of players who have been in and out, but Phil is our coach.
‘‘And we’ve got faith that Phil and the players will turn this around. All of us, collectively.’’
Middleby said Saturday’s clash with Asian champions Western Sydney, who occupy the bottom rung on the A-League ladder but have two games in hand on second-last Newcastle, would be ‘‘another very, very tough game’’ but he backed the Jets to show their true colours.
‘‘We need to come out and make amends with our performance,’’ he said. ‘‘Actions speak louder than words.
‘‘But I’m confident that there are certain types of characters in the club who will respond the right way to this.
‘‘That’s why I’m certain the performance will be better this week.’’
A shellshocked Stubbins said he had to ‘‘take responsibility’’ for the performance, admitting he was ‘‘embarrassed’’ by the home crowd’s reaction.
‘‘All I can say to the fans is we’ll be doing everything we can to make amends,’’ Stubbins said. ‘‘The quality is one thing. Effort, endeavour and approach and your mindset and mentality is another ... we need to set some standards in place that are akin to a team that does have a crack.’’
For those calling for a response from Robbie, see today's Herald.
And am I reading the section italicized correctly? Is he embarrassed because of the reaction the crowd gave the players, or is he embarrassed because the team performance resulted in said reaction? Granted, it's a quoted section in a news article - clearly could have been taken out of context.
One of the few times I've agreed with Dillon - http://www.theherald.com.au/story/27...er-rot/?cs=306Quote:
COMMENT: Fans have suffered enough – it’s time for FFA to stop the Tinkler rot
THE presence of FFA chief executive David Gallop at Hunter Stadium on Friday night was perhaps the only positive to emerge, from a Novocastrian point of view.
Hopefully the chorus of boos at full-time, after the Jets were embarrassed 4-0 by Brisbane Roar, did not go unnoticed by Gallop or his colleagues in the corridors of power.
FFA would be unwise to assume the frustration vented by a section of the 10,216-strong crowd was purely a reaction to a dismal on-field performance.
This sense of disillusionment has been snowballing at an exponential rate.
In four years under the ownership of Nathan Tinkler, the Jets are yet to feature in the finals.
In that time, more than 40 players have come and gone – not including those on this season’s roster – and four coaches have occupied the hot seat before the appointment of Phil Stubbins.
Friday’s performance left many long-time supporters convinced it was Newcastle’s worst since the A-League kicked off 10 years ago, and the fear is the Jets may not yet have hit rock bottom.
Judging by their form over the first six weeks of the season, it will require a mighty revival to avoid the wooden spoon, let alone qualify for the playoffs.
To lay the blame solely on the players and Stubbins would be unfair. No club reaches this level of sustained dysfunctionality without deep, ingrained problems – issues that can only be resolved once Tinkler has relinquished control and moved on.
That is why Gallop needs to rethink his comments during an interview with the Newcastle Herald last week, in which he insisted: ‘‘It’s not in our plans to own the Jets or any other A-League team ... we don’t want to own A-League clubs, full-stop.’’
FFA officials seem content to bide their time after Tinkler’s decision in August to place the Jets on the market.
But there would appear to be two compelling reasons for the governing body to be pro-active and step in to rescue the struggling club.
Firstly, Tinkler has not been inundated with offers to buy him out, and every week this saga drags on delays the process of moving forward.
The Newcastle Knights, in contrast, are already well advanced in rebuilding the club and reconnecting with the community after the NRL ousted Tinkler in June.
They have appointed a new board of directors and are understood to be close to securing a major sponsor.
Soon the tumultuous Tinkler era will be a fading memory for Knights fans.
The quickest way the Jets can get to a similar position is for FFA to make the struggling tycoon an offer and then on-sell the franchise. If that means funding the club’s operations on an interim basis, as the NRL is doing with the Knights, so be it.
Eventually, you would assume, such an investment will prove money well spent.
The other reason for the FFA to buy Tinkler out is that quite simply they owe him a favour.
When former owner Con Constantine experienced financial difficulties late in 2010, FFA approached Tinkler on spec and, despite having no real interest in the round-ball code, he agreed to take over.
He has since spent millions on the Jets, albeit apparently begrudgingly since his unsuccessful attempt to relinquish the licence in 2012.
Tinkler may have been a problematic type and it is unlikely there is much affection for him or his former right-hand man, Troy Palmer, behind the scenes at FFA.
It can’t have been much fun doing business with either of them.
But fair’s fair, FFA. Quid pro quo.
Repay Tinkler his pound of flesh, even if that is merely helping him settle whatever liabilities the Jets may have racked up, and allow him to move on.
While this waiting game continues, it is hard to see any winners.
The greatest asset the Jets have is their long-suffering supporters. That they still have about 9000 members (10per cent fewer than last year) is nothing short of remarkable.
But after every performance like the loss to Brisbane, those fans are entitled to query why they bother. FFA needs to act before the boos Gallop heard on Friday night fade into total indifference.
white?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
Middleby can get ****ed. 4 years of underperforming with him as CEO. Enough.
Well saidQuote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
I don't quite understand how "now is the time to rally behind the club" and all that. We've heard that for the last 6 years, particularly the last 4 since hsg came in.
I haven't had doubts about stubbins until friday night. Jaliens at right back, being a goal down and bringing on a defender at centre mid, looking to virgili for answers when we were down, and leaving Flores with no game time. His coaching reaked of him being scared and out of his depth imo.
From memory he did say something along those words, but in the context of what he was saying in general it was more of the latter option. I think I recall him saying something like, it was disappointing for the fans to have that reaction but after the performance they had every right to do that, and that he was embarrassed as he's never had to sit through a performance like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
In the press conference he also got asked why he didn't bring Flores on and I believe his reasoning was, in going to the 4-4-2, he thought the midfielder coming on needed to be doing a lot more work and running so he opted for Welsh over Flores for that.
Another thing he touched on a couple of times was that he was a lot more concerned with the attitude and effort rather than the skills aspect of the performance, sounds like he's trying to play the old underdog, "our squad has less quality than everyone else's" card. Am I alone in thinking that our player list doesn't actually look that bad? Before the season and even after a couple games I was thinking once everyone is actually right to play we should be looking decent. Attending my first game on Friday made me doubt my resolve a little though lol.
U r very right PV4......and I f u haven't done so yet, I invite all members to twit @NewcastleJetsFC and @Newcastleherald how we feel about the current situationQuote:
Originally Posted by pv4
You call that a response? That's not a response.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
There is no indication that he has any idea what is causing the current problems or has any idea what to do about it, other than plea with fans to continue to support the club. It's embarrassing.
Me neither. The fans have always shown up despite the incessent results served up. Of course we will rally behind the club because when we secede from NSW* we'll give this comp a real shake. However, lets not take away the right for the fans to give club management a kick up the backside when they are deserving of it without having to question our loyalty to the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
As far as the coach, he is in struggleetown entering sh*tsville.
*pipedream
I didn't say it was a good response, the right response or a wrong response. But we heard from him. More so a statement of fact than quality.Quote:
Originally Posted by hausmann
Probably.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
Our squad is rubbish.
Our big name signings are blokes that none of the good teams wanted and the sheer amount of other players who wouldn't touch us with a barge pole meant we had to coax a bloke out of retirement to come back (who wasn't very good anyway) yet he still legitimately had to give it great thought whether to run a ****ing B'nB in Bum**** Idaho versus playing profession football for a living.
Our big O/S signing didn't last 2 games (top recruiting that) and these so called 'locals who take pride in the shirt' etc etc etc are either treated like garbage ('sup Jobe?) run out of town ('sup Tarek?) or never given the chance to show what they can be ('sup Kale?).
Our club is a shambles run by a bunch of mongs.
Get the **** out the lot of them.
This wouldn't have happened on Remos watch.
Edit: Kew has been a great signing, but yeah let's put him at right back.
Your honour, I rest my case.
You wouild need to draw a very long bow to compare the Roars start to the season with ours. The Roar have delivered several championships and have been one of the strongest clubs in the history of the league.
Jets fans weren't just booing Friday nights performance. Jets fans were booing a club that has been in decline since the third season of the league. Year after year we are promised this and that, and yet the reality is the results are getting worse not better.
At the end of last season I said I would watch the pre-season games and make a decision about membership. What I saw I didn't like and as such I did not renew our season tickets.
It's at the stage now where I actually want to see the Wanderers win by four or more goals against the Jets so as to put the notion of poor management and coaching staff at the club beyond doubt.
Exactly! The best thing for the club long term is that we get the spoon this year, so Middleby can **** right off back South of Morrisset, Stubbins can **** off back to Thailand, half the squad can **** right off as well, and we rebuild, hopefully learning from the mistakes of the past.
Forever 7th, doesn’t seem quite so bad any more. Terminally 10th has a nice ring to it though.
What’s the bet that if Steele and the club part ways any savings will be put aside for sacking Stubbins and replacing him with the dream team of Claka and Bridgey again, nah management will probably pay Steele out to leave, carry on.
trenchantly 10thQuote:
Originally Posted by Pico
tenaciously 10th
terribly 10th
trenchantly?? and tenaciously ???Quote:
Originally Posted by belchardo
Both have absolutely **** all to do with us cause we are completely opposite to them
Interesting the contrast with a club making the effort to sell themselves well to everyone as opposed to our club whose only goal appears to be to sell their fans shortQuote:
ON the field and off it, the Wanderers’ journey has been one of the most extraordinary stories in Australian sport.
Two A-League grand final appearances in their first two seasons of existence got people talking, but when the Western Sydney club won the Asian Champions League against Al Hilal, at the first attempt, their brand exploded globally.
And Twitter has the stats to prove it.
In the six weeks since the A-League season kicked off the Wanderers have received an extraordinary 10 million Tweet impressions. That’s higher than any other club in any sport across Australia this entire year, including both the AFL and NRL grand finalists.
What’s more, the club achieved an engagement rate - that includes mentions, favourites, retweets and clicking on a link or photo - of 8.5 per cent over the same period.
To put that figure into context, the Wanderers’ engagement rate was higher than Real Madrid, Manchester United and the San Francisco Giants, who won World Series in the same time period.
Wanderers head of marketing and communications, Mark Jensen, says the club has three main priorities - to engage, to inform and share.
“During the ACL campaign we used a lot of graphics and images that captured the emotion of the tournament from the players and fans perspective, as well as behind-the-scenes content that allowed fans to become closer to the team, especially when we are playing internationally,” he said.
“Communication with our fans and members is hugely important to us, Twitter compliments our digital delivery of information very well but it is also for a bit of fun.
“On game day we try and take the voice of the fan by being in the moment, informative and provocative. Sometimes it is fun to poke the proverbial bear with a stick, you have to know your audience but also know how far you want to take it on. We want a positive experience when engaging with our followers – it follows our club culture – to be for and with the people of Western Sydney.”
Next month the Wanderers will travel to Morocco to take part in the Club World Cup, which will extend their brand to even more corners of the globe.
“When we had a large Saudi following for the ACL final we engaged with them which clocked us some huge numbers as a result,” Jensen said.
“We will do this again for the FIFA Club World Cup against Cruz Azul and Real Madrid, who are monsters on Twitter.”
treat them as ironic/sarcastic then.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
true.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
its a bit of a cop out to put it on us as fans.... "we need you now"
we are there, 11000 at the victree game despite no wins in four, 10000 the next week, we'll lose to wsw and still get 7-8K - no-one at the club has any right to claim newcastle fans arent loyal
**** me, our crowd on friday night was larger than Adelaide's
it's time to let the mick-dawg onto stubbins imo
Isn't the catch cry marketing ploy this year to JOIN THE FIGHT??Quote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
Someone needs to get the owner admin manager and players to step up.
The fans have
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to MFKS again.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
and HeartQuote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
Maybe it's time for everyone involved in the club to have a good hard look in the mirror and decide what this club is and what it stands for.
As most point out we have been shite for a few years now. Yeah we won a championship years ago and we have made the finals a few times but do we really compete with the big clubs financially. I mean have we ever had a major sponsor with national appeal or international profile? We had an owner who was worth a billion (on paper only I know) and all we got was some 35yr old ex England international who's goal scoring record doesn't set the world on fire. We have had some names here but all at the back end of their careers and usually only for a season.
When and who was the last player from newcastle or the hunter to make it on the world stage? I don't mean guys who came here and played for the jets or breakers form other parts of Australia but actual born and bred novacastrians....Craig Johnston?
I ****ing love this place and I support both the national code teams in the Jets and Knights but honestly both will always struggle to have the financial clout to compete against teams in capital cities. On field performances will almost always reflect the circumstances of the club.
I see some of the players around sometimes, usually the younger home grown ones and they walk around like they are ****ing Barcelona legends or something. Thay have achieved nothing but somehow their egos are through the roof. Maybe if they were made to front up to fans and cop the sprays they might understand a bit more who it is they represent...problem is the club raps them up and protects them so they don't see it all. Maybe a few of them need a game in the newcastle comp so they can get the shit kicked out of them to deflate the egos.
The club will always protect itself....look at the johnny Steele case....something isn't right but rumour and innuendo will be all we get from it.
:rof:Quote:
Originally Posted by lquiquer