2015 National Premier League thread

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Originally Posted by Tonester

Sorry to offend,obviously I have misrepresented Jaffas choice of opposition,clearly their aim is to win as many games as they can now as maybe leaner times could be ahead who knows.By the way has Maguire had a run?

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Yes spot on Tonestar, we are scared we are not going to win any games during the season so we are playing easy opposition?
I didn't hear you bagging CCB out about playing Valentine? Surely Lakes are better opposition given they were in NPL last year?

The fact is clubs don't like playing other clubs from the same division, so Lakes, valentine, are the pick of the Next best level.

Suns were a last minute game because Maitland pulled out on us and we wanted to continue having a run rather than a weekend off.

PS we are playing Valentine this weekend, are they acceptable given CCB and Valo was a close score? Or would that be perceived as an easier game again?

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Originally Posted by Jaf Jaf

Yes spot on Tonestar, we are scared we are not going to win any games during the season so we are playing easy opposition?
I didn't hear you bagging CCB out about playing Valentine? Surely Lakes are better opposition given they were in NPL last year?

The fact is clubs don't like playing other clubs from the same division, so Lakes, valentine, are the pick of the Next best level.

Suns were a last minute game because Maitland pulled out on us and we wanted to continue having a run rather than a weekend off.

PS we are playing Valentine this weekend, are they acceptable given CCB and Valo was a close score? Or would that be perceived as an easier game again?

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Touche

Jaffas will walk the comp in.

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Originally Posted by Football lover

Jaffas will walk the comp in.

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I am expecting them to be one of the teams to beat. As far as walking the comp in I think your being a tad dramatic and OTT. There is now way in the world they will walk it in with other teams like Magic about

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Originally Posted by Football lover

Jaffas will walk the comp in.

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Care to elaborate ? Thats a big statement . I have said that either Magic or Jaffas will win it. But I think the comp will be super close and there will be multiple teams challanging.


18 x 3pts so 54 points available for all teams : so how many points will Jaffas get ?

I think the comp may be won with as little as 35 pts that is basing the winning team having a season that consists of 10 wins , 5 draws and 3 loses = 35pts .

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Originally Posted by MFKS

I am expecting them to be one of the teams to beat. As far as walking the comp in I think your being a tad dramatic and OTT. There is now way in the world they will walk it in with other teams like Magic about

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Magic and Weston and Maitland and Adamstown and Hamilton and CCB and Southy and Jets and Edgeworth.

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Originally Posted by Jaf Jaf

Yes spot on Tonestar, we are scared we are not going to win any games during the season so we are playing easy opposition?
I didn't hear you bagging CCB out about playing Valentine? Surely Lakes are better opposition given they were in NPL last year?

The fact is clubs don't like playing other clubs from the same division, so Lakes, valentine, are the pick of the Next best level.

Suns were a last minute game because Maitland pulled out on us and we wanted to continue having a run rather than a weekend off.

PS we are playing Valentine this weekend, are they acceptable given CCB and Valo was a close score? Or would that be perceived as an easier game again?

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Ouch!That hurt haha.Only winding you up,bit early to be too serious me thinks.Seriously though Jaffas got a good side & will take Valo apart although I do think they will be favourites to win the Comp(Valo that is).Azzuri play Wallsend this week so they are avoiding big fish too.Look forward to more posts from all.PS.Love my new name!

Nobody will walk the comp in
Last year 1 game could have made results so different
Had Jaffas beat jets second last game they would have won the minor premiership
Had jagfas lost 2 extra games they would have missed out on the top 5
Comp is very close, closest it's been in a long time the last couple of years
It's great for the comp. now you have names like maitland and Adamstown being thrown into the top 5 as contenders, it definitely makes it interesting!

By no means do I believe that any team in this years comp will walk it in. I believe that there will be 3-6 points in it at the end, but will be a two horse race for most of the year. For me personally, that's jaffas and magic, but I may be wrong.

Don't recall any team winning by a large amount for some years now. last one was magic back in 2010 I think? possibly by 12-14 points?

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Originally Posted by TouchAndPlay

By no means do I believe that any team in this years comp will walk it in. I believe that there will be 3-6 points in it at the end, but will be a two horse race for most of the year. For me personally, that's jaffas and magic, but I may be wrong.

Don't recall any team winning by a large amount for some years now. last one was magic back in 2010 I think? possibly by 12-14 points?

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Yeah we are looking forward to it, will be a close comp with nothing splitting the top 5 IMO

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Originally Posted by Jaf Jaf

Yeah we are looking forward to it, will be a close comp with nothing splitting the top 5 IMO

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Isn't it top 4 this year Jaf

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Originally Posted by wannabe

Isn't it top 4 this year Jaf

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I have no idea, Ill ask Tanch or Snedds at training tonight. I havnt heard that, when did that come out??
That makes it interesting and even harder in a very tight comp.
What are your thoughts on that? I think it still should be 5.

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Originally Posted by Jaf Jaf

I have no idea, Ill ask Tanch or Snedds at training tonight. I havnt heard that, when did that come out??
That makes it interesting and even harder in a very tight comp.
What are your thoughts on that? I think it still should be 5.

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It is Top 4 this season been known for quite a while

Jets Yoof can win the NPL regular season but are unable to compete in Semis. So the 5th place team will qualify for semis if the Jets finish top 4 and everyone will move up a spot accordingly

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Originally Posted by Jaf Jaf

I have no idea, Ill ask Tanch or Snedds at training tonight. I havnt heard that, when did that come out??
That makes it interesting and even harder in a very tight comp.
What are your thoughts on that? I think it still should be 5.

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I thought that it is top four & Jets are ineligible to participate in finals & semis are 2 legs like New FM Comp.

IMO, the top 4 is the best method.
The problem I have with the Top 5 is that it's a conundrum whether finishing first actually gets an advantage.
If you finish first, you can play 1 game in 3 weeks, then play a Grand Final 2 weeks after your last game. 2 games in 4 weeks. I think, mentally, it is very tough to play a grand final after 2 weeks off.
The plus side, is you get to physically recuperate.
I'd rather play consecutive games and keep the intensity up.

That being said, I never made a Grand Final with the 2 x legs, but did in the Top 5 system after finishing 1st. So my bias should be the other way.

Edit: And yes, Top 4 this year. Jets ineligible for Finals.

Save your money folks, $10 entry fee for NPL games,

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

Save your money folks, $10 entry fee for NPL games,

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Got to pay the exorbitant player wages I suppose

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

Save your money folks, $10 entry fee for NPL games,

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That's ridiculous isn't it.

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Originally Posted by Football life

That's ridiculous isn't it.

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Yep.

Should be $5 tops and a token contribution not a dead set fleecing

We are trying to entice people to our game not turn them away

Under the new NPL format does NNSW or anybody else take a share of the $10?
Price is stupidly high.

Are clubs forced to charge these new fees? I assume so.
Was this "voted" in by clubs? Or were they not consulted?

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

We are trying to entice people to our game not turn them away

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I take it your against it??

I find it bizarre that prices need to rise.

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

We are trying to entice people to our game not turn them away

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My mate and his wife have to pay to watch their son play 19s. They are not interested in firsts. So on top of a massive rego cost, they have to fork out $20 x 18 rounds, $360 for the privilege of watching their son play. That's over the top!!

OH NO, guess that means beer and hot chips gunna go up to .

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Originally Posted by hamburgler

My mate and his wife have to pay to watch their son play 19s. They are not interested in firsts. So on top of a massive rego cost, they have to fork out $20 x 18 rounds, $360 for the privilege of watching their son play. That's over the top!!

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Said mate and his wife if they watched the game from their car because its cold in the morning would have paid $18 this season so not a huge jump... just needs to now walk in the front gate and bring a jacket..... price has been fixed for the past 6-7+ years. Magic has done season passes and you get a few rounds for free. Only an issue if you have a fickle support base, that walks in sits near the gate, watches and walks out.

Lets be honest the increased gate admission is mainly going to benefit those clubs who have Magic attending as their supporters travel well, but im sure concession is still $5 anyways so their pensioners should still travel well. Chatting to a former Westy committee member he said that they used to make on the Magic game the previous 4 games combined.

NNSWF started charging $10 for the final series only 2 years ago and there hasn't been a huge backlash, be interesting how the stats work out for attendance this season.

Wow. Thank God for Magic or we wouldn't have any football fans, no
Christmas, and football in newcastle wouldn't exist.

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Originally Posted by The Magician

Said mate and his wife if they watched the game from their car because its cold in the morning would have paid $18 this season so not a huge jump... just needs to now walk in the front gate and bring a jacket..... price has been fixed for the past 6-7+ years. Magic has done season passes and you get a few rounds for free. Only an issue if you have a fickle support base, that walks in sits near the gate, watches and walks out.

Lets be honest the increased gate admission is mainly going to benefit those clubs who have Magic attending as their supporters travel well, but im sure concession is still $5 anyways so their pensioners should still travel well. Chatting to a former Westy committee member he said that they used to make on the Magic game the previous 4 games combined.

NNSWF started charging $10 for the final series only 2 years ago and there hasn't been a huge backlash, be interesting how the stats work out for attendance this season.

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Good points but considering most First Grade games have 100-300 there is the extra couple of dollars per ticket gonna make that much of a difference??

Thought the idea would be to try and get the crowds up across the league and get crowds pushing 500-1000

Clubs are not made to charge the recommended fee.

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Originally Posted by MFKS

Good points but considering most First Grade games have 100-300 there is the extra couple of dollars per ticket gonna make that much of a difference??

Thought the idea would be to try and get the crowds up across the league and get crowds pushing 500-1000

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Indeed thats the dream scenario, but NNSWF running the marketing off the comp are not really interested in getting more people to the game but to rather increase exposure of the competition in the media dominated by egg ball...


Really, Its up to individual clubs to get people to their own games... i.e how do clubs incorporate NPL Youth in the senior game day experience, what about clubs that have junior community teams, and getting more parents to attend rather than dropping off kids at front gate at 9:30pm... match passes, concessions... sponsor days... etc... if attendance at fixtures was a priority of clubs im sure we wouldn't be talking about this... but the primary priority of most clubs is to increase sponsorship revenue... rather than depend of gate takings and canteen. Ive been to watch nephews play in the U19's and there haven't even been people stationed on the gate... and then they run out of bottled water by reserve grade half time...

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Originally Posted by EH9

Clubs are not made to charge the recommended fee.

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Oh yes they are

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Originally Posted by The Magician

Said mate and his wife if they watched the game from their car because its cold in the morning would have paid $18 this season so not a huge jump... just needs to now walk in the front gate and bring a jacket..... price has been fixed for the past 6-7+ years. Magic has done season passes and you get a few rounds for free. Only an issue if you have a fickle support base, that walks in sits near the gate, watches and walks out.

Lets be honest the increased gate admission is mainly going to benefit those clubs who have Magic attending as their supporters travel well, but im sure concession is still $5 anyways so their pensioners should still travel well. Chatting to a former Westy committee member he said that they used to make on the Magic game the previous 4 games combined.

NNSWF started charging $10 for the final series only 2 years ago and there hasn't been a huge backlash, be interesting how the stats work out for attendance this season.

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Your living in the past magician, magic are no where the best travelling fans, few years back maybe yes, besides that they spend most of their time arguing at the gate that their pensioners and had left there pass at home, codes like Union and league charge 5/6 dollars entry and double any crowd the NPL dish up, this is a poor decision from those clubs who voted this in, maybe if clubs stopped paying overs for money hungry overrated players this price change would not be needed, can't wait to see NNSWF marketing strategy on this one, I'm expecting zero

So if I'm a maitland supporter my entry fee has gone from $5(newfm) to $10, hardly an encouraging way to drag people through the gate

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

Your living in the past magician, magic are no where the best travelling fans, few years back maybe yes, besides that they spend most of their time arguing at the gate that their pensioners and had left there pass at home, codes like Union and league charge 5/6 dollars entry and double any crowd the NPL dish up, this is a poor decision from those clubs who voted this in, maybe if clubs stopped paying overs for money hungry overrated players this price change would not be needed, can't wait to see NNSWF marketing strategy on this one, I'm expecting zero

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FR laying the Smackdown :gent:

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

So if I'm a maitland supporter my entry fee has gone from $5(newfm) to $10, hardly an encouraging way to drag people through the gate

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So true

So who is responsible for this decision Clubs of NNSW Fed ??

I am hearing Olympic instigated the move and it was a close vote finishing 5-4 in favour as the Jets had no say.

Any truth to this??

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Originally Posted by EH9

Clubs are not made to charge the recommended fee.

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I am led to believe that all clubs are forced to charge the recommended fee.

Is concession still half price? And are Edgy still not allowing students to be considered concession?

Hamburgler hopefully whichever club your friends kid plays for are approachable and are understanding and will let the parents in either for free or at a reduced rate. From experience of the clubs I've played for, if I introduced my family to the people at the gate and on the committee they are/were usually allowed in for free or at a reduced rate anyway.

As the Member has pointed out, this price increase isn't going to be hugely beneficial to clubs anway. It's going to be bringing in somewhere between $50-300 extra for most clubs (judging from the price increase, and taking into account potentially less people coming in as they will consider it too expensive). Which realistically all it is doing is paying for a weekly wage of one of the first graders anyway. Why not keep the prices lower, and run an extra hundred club or something like that?

Hopefully some clubs are realistic about it and will give a free drink voucher for every entry or something like that, which would end up they pay about the same for entry and a drink as they would have previously anyway. Judging by the amount of people Maitland were getting to their games last year, a lot of which were drinking, I think something like this would benefit them.

Whether it is right or not, I pay something like $7 a game to see the Jets senior team play if I go to all games and with my membership. The fact that I pay the same or more to see NPL is ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

Your living in the past magician, magic are no where the best travelling fans, few years back maybe yes, besides that they spend most of their time arguing at the gate that their pensioners and had left there pass at home, codes like Union and league charge 5/6 dollars entry and double any crowd the NPL dish up, this is a poor decision from those clubs who voted this in, maybe if clubs stopped paying overs for money hungry overrated players this price change would not be needed, can't wait to see NNSWF marketing strategy on this one, I'm expecting zero

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100% in agreement FR

If I'm a Maitland supporter the jump in quality of games should be enough to get me there. To be honest you get 3 games, over 4 hrs of football for $10. This is the first rise for a while, what it might affect is hundred clubs and raffle tickets at the gate, and you can drink full strength beer.

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

So if I'm a maitland supporter my entry fee has gone from $5(newfm) to $10, hardly an encouraging way to drag people through the gate

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I kind of see all sides of the debate here. I dont think people shoudl be charged to watch the 19s games as it is mostly parents or guardians and simply supporting the club and or players in the 19s should be payment enough. Problem lies in managing this as once in the ground i would say its difficult to them ask them to leave if they decide to watch the other 2 games.

Regarding comparing it to HAL and average cost to watch jets season . For me you cannot compare the two on a multiple of reasons .

Negative is without doubt you are watching better quality in HAL so value for cash NPL over HAL football reasons is not even worth debating NPL loses every single time.

Positive is that NPL clubs dont charge over $7 for hot chips and over $5 for a soft drink and dont charge $6.50 for a watered down beer so on that basis NPL is better quality than HAL.

There are other examples - If you are taking young children to NPL at most grounds you can relax in the comfort that they are fairly safe to do as they please (within reason) but at Jets you are constantly watching them and aware they dont annoy other spectators , get lost , behave etc

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Originally Posted by mother theresa

Gold coin donation at best for NPL in NNSW
Untill such time, we are graced with quality players like in the Sydney NPL...gold coin is too much

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Harsh but agree with the sentiment.

The money paid to go watch the games is only going to line the players pockets. The results are a little lacking for our region with all the money pumped in and disappearing out in wages to First Grade NBN Players. I am happy to contribute to the cause but not happy as to where the money ends up.

Needs fixing