Yeah they are thinking he's got Florida which is massive. If she got that it was all over early.Quote:
Originally Posted by q-money
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Yeah they are thinking he's got Florida which is massive. If she got that it was all over early.Quote:
Originally Posted by q-money
The American system is a Two Party Dictatorship and Wall Street owns them both.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
That aside would love to see Trump win.
WTF is going on here..
well, there is this...
http://www.asx.com.au/asx/widget/cha...DEX&popup=true
I'm not going to jinx it I'm not going to jinx it I'm not going to jinx it.......
If Trump tried this 20 years ago, in Colombia, he'd end up dead.
I just don't get how Trump is even a possible candidate, wtf happened that it got to this stage? It just boggles my mind.
There are quite a few reasons why.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
One good one is that the world is a much bigger place than Facebook, Twitter and Hollywood.
Plenty of positives can come out of this, let's hope some lessons are learned and the whole system resets.
also fuming i didn't have a crack at the 10s on offer for trump at 10am ffs
everybody apparently wants to move to Canada
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-0...ashing/8009988
The Donald gonna fix all that bizness.Quote:
Originally Posted by q-money
ah jeez went to edit the post and deleted it instead
unbelievable stuff hey
what a can of worms though now, lots of promises from big don, i.e. manufacturing, tariffs, TPP, military spending...may just end up the same as the old boss
what i don't understand is the rampant protectionism being pushed matching up with the spending on never ending war
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Originally Posted by belchardo
and here's a great reason why Hillary lost.
Those outspoken 'celebrities' won't do jack shit.
They are social media activists.
Cowards and band wagoners.
Yet Clinton fought for their approval rather than the grassroot voters.
Reminds me of U2 back at the height of their "damn the rich let's heal the world by taking the rich people's money oh wait you guys found our tax haven status lolz whoops never mind"
My understanding is that military spending will be more about elevating pensions for veterans (admirable) and not endlessly funding overseas bases (countries like Japan/Korea and Oz chipping in to pay the yanks to look after us - something which I think Rudd(?) rejected when Bush tried it).Quote:
Originally Posted by q-money
If he carries out the threat then it may actually decrease Americas military presence overseas which may lead to less conflict rather than more.
I honestly reackon that some of these policies will actually have silver linings but probably more to do with good luck rather than good planning.
As for the 'wall' i mean there's gonna be a lot of surprised people when they realise there's already a kind of a wall there but Trump just gonna enforce it better.
The majority of people I have spoken to about the election over the past few months said they were voting for Trump. Hardly anyone said they would vote for Hillary because they feared it would be more of the same as in mass unemployment and uncertainty. Let's hope Trump is more successful playing politics than he was in the movie business.
Best indicator will be who comes next for the Dems. An actual real human with a brain and a conscience or another career politician.
I also hope the ALP is watching this really really closely.
The ALP are beyond saving. They stand for nothing. At least the conservatives aren't afraid to say they hate the poor.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Are they taking bets on KANYE for 2020 ?
There are no positives to come out of this. Trump is not trying to "reset" the system, he is trying to systematically whitewash America. The only lesson to be learned out of this is that ignorant, bigoted fools will support anyone who sprouts populist sh*t even if its baseless in terms of policy.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Enforce it better with money they don't have?Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Q. How is trump gonna improve employment? .......A. reduce wages? work without safety? more hoars? isolationist? we want answersQuote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
but imagine losing the unlosable election, what a putz. Thank fk I dont have to hear Hillary's whiny, grating voice ever again.
also sick of trump already
The only limit to the US governments ability to spend is politically imposed . Economically, they have no spending constraint in terms of the US dollar.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve136
The best thing that could happen in America is for Trump to spend up and spend up big. Because a lack of spending is precisely why their economy has been in the shit for so many years.
http://resources3.news.com.au/images...le-steamer.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by hawk
Spending up big is the worst thing that could happen in America. The idea that the US doesn't have to repay its debts is absurd and dangerous. Such an idea would see interest rates soar and certainly set off a global recession.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
He could employ 50 thou on a big brick wall.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve136
Get off Facebook and Twitter my brother.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve136
There's a big wide world out there and today it said enough is enough.
Of course you loved Obamas policy laden campaign back in '08 didn't you..........what was it Hope and Change or Change and Hope I forget?
I have been disappointed by Obama's centrist policies and lack of progressivism from the Democratic Party over the last 8 years. But I also acknowledge the incredibly hypocrisy of conservatives pointing their finger at Obama for America's issues when they've controlled the house, Senate and Supreme Court for the past 4 years. They're upset about where the country is heading but their hands are all over the wheel.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
I wish a journalist had asked Trump - "how does a bill get passed?" You know what? He'd have no idea at all, and this man is about to become President of the United States. This level of ineptitude and inexperience is unprecedented. I mean come on, the man can barely string a sentence together let alone comprehend complex issues like healthcare, immigration, trade and foreign policy.
And I don't need facebook or twitter to know that climate change isn't a hoax perpetrated by the Chinese and that bragging of sexual assault makes one unqualified for office.
He'll certainly have to employ a few engineers to work out how he's going to build the wall through the many rivers that cross the border, because he's provided no answers to that so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk
aaaahhhh the old "republicans controlled the house chestnut. I love that one. Did it ever occur that the Republicans got control in the mid terms because of the ineffective nature of the Obama administration for the first 4 years when he had control of everything?Quote:
Originally Posted by steve136
As for the intricacies of legislation? Geez mate id bet good money the bloke has never laid a brick in his life but he gets some pretty big buildings made.
You think any major leader knows the ins and out of parliamentary business? No, thats why the likes of 'The Fixer' Pyne and Snot nosed Burke are called "leaders of Govt/opposition business" in the house. Its called delegation, leaders lead, then they delegate. Its how shit gets done. Plenty of well paid boffins on the hill will be more than ready to show the Donald they way through.
oh, and I don't know you, but Trump is richer, more educated and has better hair than you. deal with it.
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Originally Posted by steve136
yeah im here for all the chats in the world and have love everyone on the foz but unless you want a sermon from the book of Dunster id get in the bunker and arm up my breh before throwing out these comments.
imma step aside on this.
this whole thing and the last 10 years of the internet age of politics really reinforces that people will believe any bullshit you put in front of them.
you have the keys now, you f*cken drive
There's definitely an element of Obama dissatisfaction (and rightfully so) about that. Did it occur to you that the Republicans mainly control the house because of the outrageous gerrymandering that the GOP has executed in recent years?Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
As for the "experts" he'll defer to to lead effectively, I point to his response when asked who will advise him on foreign policy - "My primary consultant is myself." The man is a narcissist of the highest order, and seems incapable of listening to others. Everything Trump has done so far indicates that even if he were able to identify the most knowledgeable people in the world on any subject, he probably wouldn’t listen to them anyway.
As for being richer and having better hair - no doubt. But a BS from Wharton University...please :lol:
Would love to hear his rationale. Unlike Trump supporters, I'm happy to listen to logical evidence and use that to update my position on any subject. Not just get worked into a frenzy over a stupid four world slogan.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Trump's plan to get rid of America's enormous debt:
1. Spend billions on the military
2. Spend billions on infrastructure
3. Deport thousands of people
4. ???
5. Profit
He knows what he's doing though, right? He's a successful businessman. Oh and he's not Hillary!
To be fair the last bloke didn't do much better.Quote:
Originally Posted by parksey
Also expect the Trump sympathisers to read from the Jets playbook, "I inherited a bad economy/squad" etc.
Plus in that whole god damned 2 year campaign national debt commanded what seemed like 1% of the oxygen on both sides. They both argued they'd do it by growing the economy, but had no detail.
A lot has to be learned from how Hillary blew this. The most qualified person ever to run got whipped by the least qualified. Simply astonishing.
Yeah look one thing we all have to remember about any public figure is that regardless of what we assume, we really don't know them and have no idea what these people are really like.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve136
Your opinion is derived from consuming whichever brand of media and information you choose to believe about them.
And that's fine, but it doesn't make it so.
This is straight out of that Will Ferrell Zach Galifianakis movie The Campaign. Time to make America great again.
"Because it's a mess"
This is something that should be adopted by everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve136
Such an underrated, funny movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilso8948
Will Ferrell is exactly what Hillary Clinton looked like to a lot of people.