SQUAD FOR 2015/16 SEASON - no Griff, no party

Ps I think any deal involving 2 out of naumoff oneill or calver would suit us best IMO

Nothing less than The Smeltz and Tavares

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Originally Posted by Wilso8948

Best player or not if he won't be committed to the team will turn into a cancer in the sheds. 100% back miller in this one

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This....have to laugh at the Facebook fans who, like the Pearce defenders, just don't get it the true crux of the matter.

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Originally Posted by lquiquer

Nothing less than The Smeltz and Tavares

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Can't have overseas players. **** off we're full

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Originally Posted by Wilso8948

Can't have overseas players. **** off we're full

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**** Milos and Leo...sale them to malaysia

From absolutely woeful service to him Milos has still managed to score six goals from 15 matches. Well done to all the mongs wanting to get rid of him as his strike rate is a lot better than the majority of players in the A-League let alone at the Jets.

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Originally Posted by The Dunster

From absolutely woeful service to him Milos has still managed to score six goals from 15 matches. Well done to all the mongs wanting to get rid of him as his strike rate is a lot better than the majority of players in the A-League let alone at the Jets.

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all headers (or penalties) because he's got nothing else......keep dreaming

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Originally Posted by lquiquer

all headers (or penalties) because he's got nothing else......keep dreaming

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I'm not saying he's a world beater but I'd take 5 headers a year over zero goals a year with feet.

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Originally Posted by Wilso8948

I'm not saying he's a world beater but I'd take 5 headers a year over zero goals a year with feet.

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U happy with mediocrity......Keep dreaming

Well **** me Miller has finally made a positive ****ing decision.

About time he ****ed Carney off

Maybe we can have 10 blokes putting in this week in defence and not 9

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Originally Posted by skullboy

FFS!! Miller is starting to stink of Stubbins. Unless there is a trade deal imminent there is no reason to leave your best player at home for an absolute must win game.

Absolutely brainless.

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There is absolutely a reason if he is attempting to force a move (which he is) and has no desire to play for the Jets.A Miller and Stubbins comparison in this situation is more than unfair.

Carney wants out for whatever reason, maybe because full of himself (likely)...When his agent says the Jerks don't show the love it's ****ing bullshit......Have a good second half of a season, put it all there for jerks and a contract will come....either here or somewhere else, so **** him and his agent... ****ing play for the club you contracted for and shut the **** up.......

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Originally Posted by lquiquer

Carney wants out for whatever reason, maybe because full of himself (likely)...When his agent says the Jerks don't show the love it's ****ing bullshit......Have a good second half of a season, put it all there for jerks and a contract will come....either here or somewhere else, so **** him and his agent... ****ing play for the club you contracted for and shut the **** up.......

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Thank you....please post this on social media.

And if Carney wants FC....**** him and i'm with Miller on that one: No short change.....**** Hoole and Naumoff..........I'll say it again go for big names and **** some of our imports to allow it to happen....If does not happen send Carney to the sandpit, ****ing primadonna.....

Rather ironic considering Carney pulled the same move last year. Got his agent to line up a deal with SFC in December/January then destabilised the team. Stubbins may have been a clueless fool but this is Groundhog Day for Carney

Naumoff and Simon left out of Sydney's team from last week. I reckon it's coincidental but one could perceive there is more to it.

Naumoff and Abbas would do me

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Originally Posted by Jetmaster

Go back to the actual changeover. We had 13 players on contract who were moved across without being paid or getting super for some weeks. Ethically, do you really think we should/could have offloaded anyone?

Miller came in and only had a guaranteed job for 3 months don't forget....it was the reason Rudes said no with a new owner sounding certain back then.

Wholesale changes when debts were being cleared and wages being fixed up would have been ridiculously complicated and the PFA may have caused a stink too.

We had no club just before the season started and we are where most sensible people thought we would be.

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Smurfs won't be able to dump Hoole quick enough the way he is playing tonight.

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Originally Posted by foti68

Naumoff and Abbas would do me

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No way show more ambition..... **** them and Carney.... Go for gold or ... Nothing

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Originally Posted by lquiquer

all headers (or penalties) because he's got nothing else......keep dreaming

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Yeah because headers & penalties aren't worth as many points as other goals.

Headers and penalties won't get us in top 6.... Band aid football if you ask me

all well and good but if Morten doesn't get any service either Trif will remain the unchallenged leading scorer this season...:sigh:

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Originally Posted by lquiquer

Headers and penalties won't get us in top 6.... Band aid football if you ask me

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We need at least 2 players to get into double figures to give us any chance to make the semi's

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Originally Posted by foti68

We need at least 2 players to get into double figures to give us any chance to make the semi's

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If Adelaide win tomorrow, any glimmer of hope of making semis is gone. Aim should be solely on finishing above the scum

I've been thinking more about Dave Carney's situation. It's quite similar to the sackings that went on last year - the obvious difference being that Carney is still employed.

We are all assuming he won't play for us again. I don't think that can be implied from the Jets press release however. He might, but I highly doubt it.

Carney, rightfully, wants to secure a playing future for himself and he doesn't see that happening at the Jets. Miller wants players to be 100% committed to the club. But if the club can't, or won't, give carney commitment beyond this year, do you blame him for having his head turned? That screams of hypocrisy to me. Or perhaps they've told him he won't be needed and this is his chance to get a run in the ACL which he missed out on in S2. I've got no idea.

The jets have this time got on the front foot. They've played this scenario better and have the support of the majority of fans. Perhaps they've learnt from last year's fiasco. They've painted Carney as the bad guy for wanting to go to Sydney FC and in such abandoning the cause. Carney's management haven't helped that either - it played into the Jets hands.

There are only two outcomes here. A suitable trade is reached Or Carney goes back to his familiar corner from last year and does laps around Kasey Wehrman oval.

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Originally Posted by Tommyjet

If Adelaide win tomorrow, any glimmer of hope of making semis is gone. Aim should be solely on finishing above the scum

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The way they carved up Wellington yesterday, and with us having to face them in Gosford twice more this season (a place we have only ever won once) I think we have a massive challenge on our hands. A more realistic option might end up be finishing ahead of the Nix

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Originally Posted by foti68

We need at least 2 players to get into double figures to give us any chance to make the semi's

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We've only ever had two players finish in double figures for a season. Both times they won the golden boot

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Originally Posted by Jeterpool

The way they carved up Wellington yesterday, and with us having to face them in Gosford twice more this season (a place we have only ever won once) I think we have a massive challenge on our hands. A more realistic option might end up be finishing ahead of the Nix

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that would require winning another game though

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Originally Posted by Jeterpool

I've been thinking more about Dave Carney's situation. It's quite similar to the sackings that went on last year - the obvious difference being that Carney is still employed.

We are all assuming he won't play for us again. I don't think that can be implied from the Jets press release however. He might, but I highly doubt it.

Carney, rightfully, wants to secure a playing future for himself and he doesn't see that happening at the Jets. Miller wants players to be 100% committed to the club. But if the club can't, or won't, give carney commitment beyond this year, do you blame him for having his head turned? That screams of hypocrisy to me. Or perhaps they've told him he won't be needed and this is his chance to get a run in the ACL which he missed out on in S2. I've got no idea.

The jets have this time got on the front foot. They've played this scenario better and have the support of the majority of fans. Perhaps they've learnt from last year's fiasco. They've painted Carney as the bad guy for wanting to go to Sydney FC and in such abandoning the cause. Carney's management haven't helped that either - it played into the Jets hands.

There are only two outcomes here. A suitable trade is reached Or Carney goes back to his familiar corner from last year and does laps around Kasey Wehrman oval.

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If it doesn't go through he wouldn't be the first player to miss out on a deal they wanted. I don't know that if he stays he would necessarily be banished. If he shows some degree of professionalism (I get the sense that its not one of his strong points in general however) I think Miller is enough of a pragmatists to know that he can benefit the team. His removal form the squad for today means that either the deal is done, or that we are trying to show Sydney that we wont be bossed around (which inveitably we will at the end of the day)

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Originally Posted by Jeterpool

I've been thinking more about Dave Carney's situation. It's quite similar to the sackings that went on last year - the obvious difference being that Carney is still employed.

We are all assuming he won't play for us again. I don't think that can be implied from the Jets press release however. He might, but I highly doubt it.

Carney, rightfully, wants to secure a playing future for himself and he doesn't see that happening at the Jets. Miller wants players to be 100% committed to the club. But if the club can't, or won't, give carney commitment beyond this year, do you blame him for having his head turned? That screams of hypocrisy to me. Or perhaps they've told him he won't be needed and this is his chance to get a run in the ACL which he missed out on in S2. I've got no idea.

The jets have this time got on the front foot. They've played this scenario better and have the support of the majority of fans. Perhaps they've learnt from last year's fiasco. They've painted Carney as the bad guy for wanting to go to Sydney FC and in such abandoning the cause. Carney's management haven't helped that either - it played into the Jets hands.

There are only two outcomes here. A suitable trade is reached Or Carney goes back to his familiar corner from last year and does laps around Kasey Wehrman oval.

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You've summed up the situation spot on mate. I just feel that the whole situation could've been avoided if Carney, Miller, Eland and Carney's manager had got together and sorted out a solution behind closed doors....as most other professional clubs would have done. I can see both sides of the argument but the end result has been a lose-lose situation for both club and player.

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Originally Posted by Jeterpool

The way they carved up Wellington yesterday, and with us having to face them in Gosford twice more this season (a place we have only ever won once) I think we have a massive challenge on our hands. A more realistic option might end up be finishing ahead of the Nix

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Said it weeks ago that we forget the six, we are in another battle to avoid the spoon. A few on here had already written off the Scum and were saying it was theirs. Only four points behind us now with 10 games to play and as you say Jeterpool...we still have to go down to Gosford twice.
We can only hope that Ugarkovic and Nordstrand can make a big impact!!!

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Originally Posted by stopper2

You've summed up the situation spot on mate. I just feel that the whole situation could've been avoided if Carney, Miller, Eland and Carney's manager had got together and sorted out a solution behind closed doors....as most other professional clubs would have done. I can see both sides of the argument but the end result has been a lose-lose situation for both club and player.

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Thanks.

And playing devils advocate, perhaps they have tried to sort it out but it couldn't be resolved or the outcome was unsatisfactory to one of the parties...hence we are here.

I agree with you and can also see both sides of the argument. What has left me disappointed is that out club has been dragged through the mud again with another public falling out with a player.

A positive, however, is us giving the big f-u to Sydney and sticking to our guns by saying "you want our player, duly compensate us by giving us X & Y players otherwise no deal". Miller is right - we hold all the cards here

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Originally Posted by Jeterpool

I've been thinking more about Dave Carney's situation. It's quite similar to the sackings that went on last year - the obvious difference being that Carney is still employed.

We are all assuming he won't play for us again. I don't think that can be implied from the Jets press release however. He might, but I highly doubt it.

Carney, rightfully, wants to secure a playing future for himself and he doesn't see that happening at the Jets. Miller wants players to be 100% committed to the club. But if the club can't, or won't, give carney commitment beyond this year, do you blame him for having his head turned? That screams of hypocrisy to me. Or perhaps they've told him he won't be needed and this is his chance to get a run in the ACL which he missed out on in S2. I've got no idea.

The jets have this time got on the front foot. They've played this scenario better and have the support of the majority of fans. Perhaps they've learnt from last year's fiasco. They've painted Carney as the bad guy for wanting to go to Sydney FC and in such abandoning the cause. Carney's management haven't helped that either - it played into the Jets hands.

There are only two outcomes here. A suitable trade is reached Or Carney goes back to his familiar corner from last year and does laps around Kasey Wehrman oval.

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I agree with most of this, although I'm not seeing the hypocrisy. If the Jets aren't ready to commit to another deal, then Carney needs to keep working & playing and the contract will come, either here or elsewhere. I don't like comparing football to a normal workplace but if you're on a temporary contract, you don't stop working halfway through and demand a new one. If anything, you work harder to make sure it comes.

I think his agent has stirred the pot and possibly to his clients detriment as they probably thought they had the Jets over a barrel like previous players, but credit to Miller for staying tough (so far). I won't miss Carney next season, our future shouldn't be relying on him as the go to player anyway.

And let's face it, what has he actually done for us? He's scored a few, set up a few, but reality is we've won a spoon and look the goods for a second, he's hardly a matchwinner.

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Originally Posted by GazFish35

Unfortunately recent events have led the club to determine that at this point in time Carney is not 100 per cent committed to representing Newcastle Jets.

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Quick question was this quote direct from the club or a journo interprating it?

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Originally Posted by plague

Quick question was this quote direct from the club or a journo interprating it?

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Originally Posted by halo se7en

And let's face it, what has he actually done for us? He's scored a few, set up a few, but reality is we've won a spoon and look the goods for a second, he's hardly a matchwinner.

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You could pretty much say this about any player or member of the coaching staff this year except they don't get the 'scored a few set up a few' bit.

Carney is the least of the Jets problems.

At the moment he is a pretty big problem.

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Originally Posted by Jeterpool

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What a weak ass bunch of bitches that club is.

Don't worry about Carney. We will give him to Sydney in exchange for two under 12 players with injury concerns