2013 NBN State League Thread

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Originally Posted by sutho

Are you kidding or ignorant (hopefully one of them)
The committee didn't pick the cattle, everyone knows that.

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No tappy did, from the players who applied only .......

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Originally Posted by WATCHOUT

Fever Red,

When you say Valentine have no pathway is that where your junior players come through the ranks of the club?

When was the last junior player that come through your club?

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what are you going on about?
All your junior players cant even seem to get a proper Valentine team to NBN,
You had to rely on a merge from an already promoted PHOENIX RANGERS team..

There's a few coaches in newcastle who have always had good cattle and made that coach look better then what they really are, some even will tell you about their success as a coach but fail to mention the dollars spent and how good of players he had but also there are coaches who back themselves and bring kids on through their own coaching abilities, there's not many but at least some coaches are honest with themselves

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

There's a few coaches in newcastle who have always had good cattle and made that coach look better then what they really are, some even will tell you about their success as a coach but fail to mention the dollars spent and how good of players he had but also there are coaches who back themselves and bring kids on through their own coaching abilities, there's not many but at least some coaches are honest with themselves

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Been saying this for years FR, there's also quite a few coaches who won't go near a developing type club or a club without a full list of established players where you might actually have to coach and teach players the game.

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Originally Posted by WATCHOUT

Fever Red,

When you say Valentine have no pathway is that where your junior players come through the ranks of the club?

When was the last junior player that come through your club?

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Bit rich with all the coasties and kids that came from other clubs to fill your 15's SYL side

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

Marcus Duncan 17, currently playing jets youth, Southy junior, played u23s last year with a couple of first grade appearances, was a member of our young futures programme among many other 17 year olds currently playing 23s, to add to that there's the Johnson brothers who are Southy juniors that also came through our development programme and have been first grade players for a few years now, I hope this answers your question, there's a few more but I won't go on with it

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Tbh, i don't see what is so special about him. In my opinion, Southy has much better players more than capable of playing First Grade/23s Jets. The games I saw him play last year in 19s were nothing special. He was merely above par in an average team. I didn't see him do anything that would warrant him being selected anything higher than bench in 23s (barring injuries). Looked out of his depth in first grade, good technical skills, but his overall game wasn't up to scratch i feel. Essentially, I believe there were more deserving/capable players at Southy earn a call up to First Grade over him. Nathan Stevens, Sam Parker, Nick Friend, Nick Hills (overseas) + a few others in that team last year were more than capable to step up into First Grade.
Not disagreeing with the promotion of Juniors, southy is one of the best clubs for first grade opportunities. But some selections puzzle those not privvy to inside information.

p.s. any chance of getting J griffiths back in goals, i'm fearful lack of experience in that area could be costly.

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Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung

Tbh, i don't see what is so special about him. In my opinion, Southy has much better players more than capable of playing First Grade/23s Jets. The games I saw him play last year in 19s were nothing special. He was merely above par in an average team. I didn't see him do anything that would warrant him being selected anything higher than bench in 23s (barring injuries). Looked out of his depth in first grade, good technical skills, but his overall game wasn't up to scratch i feel. Essentially, I believe there were more deserving/capable players at Southy earn a call up to First Grade over him. Nathan Stevens, Sam Parker, Nick Friend, Nick Hills (overseas) + a few others in that team last year were more than capable to step up into First Grade.
Not disagreeing with the promotion of Juniors, southy is one of the best clubs for first grade opportunities. But some selections puzzle those not privvy to inside information.

p.s. any chance of getting J griffiths back in goals, i'm fearful lack of experience in that area could be costly.

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I'm not much of a fan of Southy or Piggot (as a bloke) but you have to give credit when it's due and Piggot seems to do a fantastic job at almost every club he coaches at and Southy do appear to promote young blokes rather than buying a comp like Edgeworth try to do every season.

NBN State League (1st Grade)Rd 12

Newcastle Jets Youth
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Lambton Jaffas FC
Sat 22 Jun 2:30 PM
Arthur Edden Oval


Valentine FC
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Edgeworth FC
Sat 22 Jun 4:30 PM
Cahill Oval


Hamilton Olympic FC
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South Cardiff FC
Sun 23 Jun 2:30 PM
Darling Street Oval


Charlestown City Blues FC
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Weston Workers FC
Sun 23 Jun 2:30 PM
Lisle Carr Oval


Lake Macquarie City FC
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Broadmeadow Magic FC
Sun 23 Jun 2:30 PM
Macquarie Field


Should be a good game Saturday with Jobe Wheelhouse up against the Jets.

Wonder if he scores whether he will charge to the Jets bench and give Deans the finger??

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Originally Posted by MFKS

NBN State League (1st Grade)Rd 12

Newcastle Jets Youth
v
Lambton Jaffas FC
Sat 22 Jun 2:30 PM
Arthur Edden Oval


Valentine FC
v
Edgeworth FC
Sat 22 Jun 4:30 PM
Cahill Oval


Hamilton Olympic FC
v
South Cardiff FC
Sun 23 Jun 2:30 PM
Darling Street Oval


Charlestown City Blues FC
v
Weston Workers FC
Sun 23 Jun 2:30 PM
Lisle Carr Oval


Lake Macquarie City FC
v
Broadmeadow Magic FC
Sun 23 Jun 2:30 PM
Macquarie Field


Should be a good game Saturday with Jobe Wheelhouse up against the Jets.

Wonder if he scores whether he will charge to the Jets bench and give Deans the finger??

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Thats only what bitter people like yourself do MFKS

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Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung

Tbh, i don't see what is so special about him. In my opinion, Southy has much better players more than capable of playing First Grade/23s Jets. The games I saw him play last year in 19s were nothing special. He was merely above par in an average team. I didn't see him do anything that would warrant him being selected anything higher than bench in 23s (barring injuries). Looked out of his depth in first grade, good technical skills, but his overall game wasn't up to scratch i feel. Essentially, I believe there were more deserving/capable players at Southy earn a call up to First Grade over him. Nathan Stevens, Sam Parker, Nick Friend, Nick Hills (overseas) + a few others in that team last year were more than capable to step up into First Grade.
Not disagreeing with the promotion of Juniors, southy is one of the best clubs for first grade opportunities. But some selections puzzle those not privvy to inside information.

p.s. any chance of getting J griffiths back in goals, i'm fearful lack of experience in that area could be costly.

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Jets coaching staff obviously think differently to you

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Originally Posted by 380

Bit rich with all the coasties and kids that came from other clubs to fill your 15's SYL side

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Ouch

In saying that mate, not many clubs in that comp would have a full or healthy compliment of juniors ie U9-U13. Maybe Weston would go close, but i know azzuri are 5 x toronto, 1 x coastie, 1 x hamilton, 1 x nelson bay, 5 x charlestown 1 x edgeworth etc etc. Talking about pre macquarie rep days, but may be best for another thread...

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

Southy recently signed 3 boys from valo, the reason for leaving was simple, no pathway to first grade, no youth promoted, spots taken by coastie players, what will they care when there relegated, take their money and run, Tappy may have got it wrong by having to many coasties but the committee seems to be following the same path , where's the community in this club, laughable

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which boys did use sign from phoenix FR ??

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Originally Posted by Flint_tropics

which boys did use sign from phoenix FR ??

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U19 players, Jarryd Oliveri was one

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Originally Posted by Youaskedforit

Ouch

In saying that mate, not many clubs in that comp would have a full or healthy compliment of juniors ie U9-U13. Maybe Weston would go close, but i know azzuri are 5 x toronto, 1 x coastie, 1 x hamilton, 1 x nelson bay, 5 x charlestown 1 x edgeworth etc etc. Talking about pre macquarie rep days, but may be best for another thread...

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gee, I really hope azzurri win a trophy, what a joke, wheres their local boys from Kahibah, Dudley, Charlestown, its all about mum and dad winning trophies, makes me sick

Predictions??

Jaffas
Edgy
Southy Olympic Draw
Charlestown Weston Draw
Lakes Magic going out on a limb and saying Lakes will grab a point

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Originally Posted by TheBean

Predictions??

Jaffas
Edgy
Southy Olympic Draw
Charlestown Weston Draw
Lakes Magic going out on a limb and saying Lakes will grab a point

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ill take a draw after the way they played last week but would prefer a gunners win

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

ill take a draw after the way they played last week but would prefer a gunners win

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olympic looked sharp last weekend, although that might have had more to do with phoenix letting them play. Nick Hills up front looked quality for phoenix though!

Probably should be in the 15's thread, but ForeverRed, what is the composition of your current 15's? There was no Southy U14A team last year....

Valentine is (approximately - will get back with correct numbers) 6 - Valo last year, 6 - coasties, 1 - Kahibah (via Hamilton) , 1 - Merewether (via Magic), not sure of the rest. As far as I know none played rep (in Newcastle)

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Originally Posted by late_to_the_game

Probably should be in the 15's thread, but ForeverRed, what is the composition of your current 15's? There was no Southy U14A team last year....

Valentine is (approximately - will get back with correct numbers) 6 - Valo last year, 6 - coasties, 1 - Kahibah (via Hamilton) , 1 - Merewether (via Magic), not sure of the rest. As far as I know none played rep (in Newcastle)

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80% local , not having the best year but developing well with plenty of smiles

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

80% local , not having the best year but developing well with plenty of smiles

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Always liked how southy tried to develop locals and give discards from other clubs a chance.So who went out and tried to sign a comp winning 19s this year ignoring locals? Just seems strange