The A-League Expansion Thread

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Originally Posted by The Dunster

The federal government with their unlimited spending power in the domestic currency need to step up to the plate and deliver the required infrastructure.
Private sector cannot and will not be able to do it due to their limited spending power and the need to make a profit [which there is nothing wrong with either].
The FFA is the worst of both worlds. It behaves like a government but has the limited spending power of a private enterprise.

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oh absolutely there needs to be govt money involved. the fact football isn't even on the radar whilst the state govt is throwing around 1.5b in stadium upgrades just shows how unorganised and terrible the FFA is at greasing the wheel of these scumbag pollies.

problem is the current FFA structure doesn't allow the owners to make a dollar, and thats what they rebel against.
They need to go the route of the American sports, where owners own the league and appoint a commissioner to do their bidding. You wanna see investment? just get a bunch of ego driven rich folk in a room together and tell them there can only be one winner.

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Originally Posted by GazFish35

I love it when George Donikian asks a bloke a question and then gives the bloke his answer.... then moves on to his next question and proceeds to answer it for the bloke as well.

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Praise the Gaz. This has frustrated the sh|t out of me for yonks. Mark van Aken's similar but nowhere near as bad.

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Originally Posted by Couscous

Praise the Gaz. This has frustrated the sh|t out of me for yonks. Mark van Aken's similar but nowhere near as bad.

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It annoying isn't it? I mean you want to hear the bloke answer a question don't you couscous? It can be quite frustrating when the guy asking questions doesn't let the bloke answer, isn't it mate? I remember when I was running an interview and I always found the answers more thoughtful if the questioner just asked open ended questions and let the interviewee speak. That's the case isn't it couscous? It's amazing a pro journalist on an Amatuer podcast is the worst culprit isn't it? Actually, it's ironic rather than amazing. Glad we agree.

So, the Middle East.....

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Originally Posted by GazFish35

It annoying isn't it? I mean you want to hear the bloke answer a question don't you couscous? It can be quite frustrating when the guy asking questions doesn't let the bloke answer, isn't it mate? I remember when I was running an interview and I always found the answers more thoughtful if the questioner just asked open ended questions and let the interviewee speak. That's the case isn't it couscous? It's amazing a pro journalist on an Amatuer podcast is the worst culprit isn't it? Actually, it's ironic rather than amazing. Glad we agree.

So, the Middle East.....

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That's why we have the Jetstream Gaz.
I only talk over my fellow hosts :roflz:

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Originally Posted by GazFish35

So, the Middle East.....

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I agree. Praise the Gaz. Tell me more about my answer.

I wish we would type over other people's posts.

https://www.theguardian.com/football...tion-australia

Looks like it's back on the agenda.

defo needs to be a second team from The Hunter - Maitland would be ideal

second team from the Central Coast as well - a Morisset/Gosford derby would dog shit all over Milan/Inter, Celtic/Rangers, Liverpool/Everton etc

Second Division and Pro/Rel is more important than Expansion. Purely for the sake of avoiding the shit storm from AFC in the future.

Save me the B.S about not enough money in the game and the logistics of travel makes a Second Division non viable.
There's plenty of money in the game, there's also plenty of people on the gravy train filling unnecessary positions. As for the travel, fly f*#king economy class.

Promotion and relegation will eventually see regional "poor" teams like Newcastle and The Gypos replaced by capital city teams. This can only be avoided by a relegated A League side having to be replaced by the local NPL winner or it won't be much of a national league. Jets com last and replaced by say Jaffas. Jets last and replaced by Sydney United is unacceptable

Slow expansion and better publicity of NPL is the better solution

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Originally Posted by Hunter403

Promotion and relegation will eventually see regional "poor" teams like Newcastle and The Gypos replaced by capital city teams. This can only be avoided by a relegated A League side having to be replaced by the local NPL winner or it won't be much of a national league. Jets com last and replaced by say Jaffas. Jets last and replaced by Sydney United is unacceptable

Slow expansion and better publicity of NPL is the better solution

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Not if you do it like the Japanese.

Second Division and pro/rel is a must or Australia can kiss the AFC bye bye.

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Originally Posted by Hunter403

Promotion and relegation will eventually see regional "poor" teams like Newcastle and The Gypos replaced by capital city teams. This can only be avoided by a relegated A League side having to be replaced by the local NPL winner or it won't be much of a national league. Jets com last and replaced by say Jaffas. Jets last and replaced by Sydney United is unacceptable

Slow expansion and better publicity of NPL is the better solution

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If we're relegated its our own fault. Need to get our shit together. P/R will force our owners to pull the finger out instead of filling the squad with no names from China who've barely played in 3 years.

We should be able to compete with the likes of SU, South Melbourne, Blacktown etc

I for one welcome relegation. We aren't good enough for HAL.

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Originally Posted by Premy

There's plenty of money in the game, there's also plenty of people on the gravy train filling unnecessary positions. As for the travel, fly f*#king economy class.

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I just cried thank you sir for keeping the spirit of the good Member in your heart and spitting some hot fire onto the rest of the people to keep them woke.

Bless you, and bless the Member, wherever he is.....

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Originally Posted by Grimario

I for one welcome relegation. We aren't good enough for HAL.

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Bentley Greens are better than the Jets anyway.
I've always been a massive fan.
Would buy a shirt and/or flag if they made it to the HAL.

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Originally Posted by Hunter403

Promotion and relegation will eventually see regional "poor" teams like Newcastle and The Gypos replaced by capital city teams. This can only be avoided by a relegated A League side having to be replaced by the local NPL winner or it won't be much of a national league. Jets com last and replaced by say Jaffas. Jets last and replaced by Sydney United is unacceptable

Slow expansion and better publicity of NPL is the better solution

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It depends how it is done. There is not a need for Pro/Rel to be all the way down the pyramid. We can set up a 2nd division which is closed off from the NPL and have pro/rel only between those two divisions. Whilst you would definetly have big city teams in the 2nd div you would also be silly to not include the major regional areas so across the top two divisions the whole country is covered.

I would shoot for existing NPL teams and/or major regional associations to back a team ie ACT.

That Gives you Brisbane Strikers, Gold Coast City, Fury, Heat, Sunny Coast, Western Pride, Lions. As the Qld options
ACT Fed backed team or Canberra United
Wollongong, Blacktown, Sutherland(Maybe Cronulla NRL backed with Lyall Gorman at the helm), Macarthur, Sydney United, Manly as NSW Options
Sth Melb, Melb Knights, Hume, Bentleigh, Geelong, Dandenong as Vic Options
Tassie state backed team or Sth Hobart
Adelaide City, West Adelaide in SA
Joondalup, Perth SC or a Freo team in WA
NT state backed team out of Darwin
Possibly Auckland City if we continue with having Kiwis in the comp

Out of these would be the best option to get to 14 A league teams and then a second division of 10-14 teams with pro/rel between the 2. You don't need to have Pro/Rel from the NPL comps then, but you would expand the FFA Cup to a Round of 64 to include all the A and B league teams and a heap of NPL teams.

Japan started with 1 closed league, then introduced a second division and now a third. There is no promotion from local leagues to the 3rd div and the AFC are satisfied. Australia will need to introduce it eventually but it definitely will not need to be promotion from the NPL to Aleague.

Imagine how many flares are gonna get ripped if we let proper efnik teams back in with an axe to grind.

Broadcast deal would be mega, must see tv.

St Josephs Broken Hill should be the first team selected for expansion. They even have their own Facebook page so the hard works already done. Just get Gallop to sign off on it and they'd be ready to start in no time at all.

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Originally Posted by Grimario

I for one welcome relegation. We aren't good enough for HAL.

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We'd struggle to get back up :blush:

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Originally Posted by Premy

Second Division and Pro/Rel is more important than Expansion. Purely for the sake of avoiding the shit storm from AFC in the future.

Save me the B.S about not enough money in the game and the logistics of travel makes a Second Division non viable.
There's plenty of money in the game, there's also plenty of people on the gravy train filling unnecessary positions. As for the travel, fly f*#king economy class.

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In other words parents of kids playing junior football at all levels are going to be subsidising the senior teams. Business as usual then. I mean blokes who essentially can't aim up now are making $1000 a game. Put them in a competition with supposedly more status and they will want double that.

The comedy to follow will be immense.