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Originally Posted by Skirt Boy
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Great bunch of role models they are :roflz:Quote:
Originally Posted by Skirt Boy
Tried to get a post up this morning on the Herald but it has failed to pass.
I did not name the player in that post, but I once saw P*** H******n, pick up a takeaway at a Chinese a bit the worse for wear, his shirt was half out and he dropped his keys on the floor - obviously a bit tiddly. No issues at the restaurant, he was quiet and just waited for his order. He picked it up and then staggered out to the car where his wife and child were, and then got into the DRIVERS seat. I was completely gobsmacked he could be so stupid. As he pulled away I thought he would surely be pulled over but such was the Knights clout at the time, the cop would've gone "hey C***f, just take it easy and get your arse home - can I have your autograph !)
The thickhead comments on the Herald include some justifying it because others cop it - however a professional NRL player should understand the impacts of alcohol on his body - it's his job.
no they dont. why this thread was born cause most novos cant admit that nrl players can do wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
Always baffles me how they are actually allowed to drink during the season. As the game is quite professional with sports science rehab/recovery etc I find it amazing they are allowed to drink during the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
Player runs around for 80 mins taking a tremendous physical toll on his body then goes out after the game and gets on the piss until all hours. Surely the sensible thing would be to be at home sleeping and recovering from the exertion. No these blokes are out actually hampering their recovery by putting a product into the system that takes out vital nutrients and vitamins from the body.
Considering the clubs pay them 100k 200k 300k etc you would think they would take some ownership of the situation and not tolerate their players ****ing their bodies up and not being at their best to train/play during the season.
Even for you this is a fairly baffling comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Cause I'm sure you'd love to be told what to do in your spare time.
Even Cliffy Lyons used to suck on a bunger at halftime and he was a ledge. Didn't affect him none.
Couple of quiet beers the day before sir. Didn't eat that much. Wouldn't have driven other than having an early start at training. Very soz, will not do it again*. Might do a PSA if that's cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skirt Boy
*may or may not be true.
Not disputing what Cliffy done back in the day smoking bungers in the corner of the dressing sheds at Ht and all that.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Those days though are long gone.
The argument players shouldn't tolerate being told what they can and can't do in their spare time doesn't wash. They get diet plans , vitamin plans and all the other medical science shoved at them to have their bodies in best nick possible. Then the dumb ****s set themselves back by getting legless on the weekend.
Many other sportsman have things written in their contracts that prohibit them from doing certain activities. Considering the club invests lots of time and money in these players Why can't they protect their investment by banning them from drinking during the season??
To say Alcohol has no effects on the body at their age is bullshit. It effects everyone know matter what the age
FFS I am still struggling after Saturdays shenanigans
Maybe should give up the booze then.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Agree with the member. (Shoot me now)
Luke Longley had a clause in his contract with the Chicago bulls from body surfing..... And i think from riding his motorbikes.
Drinking in season or in preseason is ludicrous for a pro-athlete.
Nah, they can do what they want, they are entertainers farkern. Nothing more, nothing less. You should be more concerned with your local rocket surgeon, brain scientist, teacher, pilot and bus driver having their performance affected by booze than your average footyhead.Quote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
then they should be dictating what speed they drive, what air they breathe and what furniture they sit on.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
FFS 99% of the population can handle their grog without it buggering up their profession. Go after the 1%. Leave us professional winos alone.
But they aren't mere entertainers. They represent clubs, clubs people are part of. Be human by all means, get done for DUI in the off season, but when your body is needed to be at top condition to perform at your best for the club you represent stay off alcohol. Wenger own trophies at arsenal just by getting the first XI to stop drininkng.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Look, i dont wish to get into a slanging match, but professional sport is entertainment and the participants are entertainers. that they represent more to certain sections of society shouldnt bother the players. to a lot of pro sportsmen its just a job like the rest of us have. they dont give a toss as long as they are getting paid.Quote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
hence why i hate the fact they should be held to higher standards.
Also from the Arsenal files:
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Ray Parlour: the English lads were drinking, the French smoking and Arsenal still won the Double
Former Arsenal greats Ray Parlour and Nigel Winterburn have told an online chat show about the extent of the drinking culture at the club and how it did not stop them from doing the Double
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It may have taken him three days to admit, but Jack Wilshere has owned up to smoking a cigarette on a night out after Arsenal’s 2-0 victory over Napoli last week, but insists he is not a smoker.
“I spoke with the boss. He asked me what happened and we sorted it out."
“He put me in the team [against West Brom], and hopefully I repaid him."
Who here is holding them to higher standards?
I'd expect anyone whose job is hindered by alcohol to not consume it.
Im assuming you are because you dont think sportspeople should drink.Quote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
My assumption is that Mason has to be at peak performance for kickoff in game one. Its currently their off season.
He was busted the morning after having a few drinks. A crime that will be dealt with by the appropriate authorities.
Do you think the teachers union would allow teachers to be tested every morning before school? Not a chance, but in my opinion they are a way more important part of the community than footy players.
But as stated, just my opinion.
Just depends if you get got or not ay!Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
I concur with plague. Mason should be able to have a few on his days off, no worries. If he can't perform at training then he gets a kick up the bum
DUI however is a massive no-no and he should cop appropriate punishment. Wes Naiqama says hi
In Masons defence you'd need to be shit faced drunk to play Rugby League let alone watch the shit.
The report I read said he was being tested on his way to training... And blew 0.09, I think anyone on their way to work should be expected to be sober. Not holding sportsmen any higher than any other profession. drink in offseason, not the day before a training session.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
He, like any professional should be doing his job sober. Part of his job is to have his body ready for his job, alcohol impedes this, so he shouldn't be drinking before training. Pretty simple.
As for teachers, if I got rbt'd on the way to work and blew 0.09 I'd expect to be severely reprimanded, and not expect an support from the federation.
If I was drinking on my day off and am not sober enough to drive to work the next day, then I'm not doing my job properly.
If I'm drinking and start planning lessons, then sober up and go to work to teach lessons prepared when drunk, I'm not doing my job properly either.
Whether he 'can perform' at training or not is irrelevant, if he's not preparing his body to best possible condition, he's not performing at the highest level he's capable of.
Well said GazFish.
The Knights pay him x amount of dollars a year to do a job and represent the Hunter to the best of his ability. Getting on the turps is actually compromising his ability to do what he gets paid for to the best of his ability.
Pretty certain a NRL player wouldn't be tolerated dining through the week at KFC then Maccas then Hungry Jacks then the local Fish and Chipper, then the Kebab shop, then having a fry up Saturday before getting a pizza on Sunday as his diet wouldn't be maximising his physical well being. Why is alcohol consumption any different???
Big difference between blowing a (reported) .09 the morning after vs not being 'sober'. This mistake is made by countless people every day from all walks of life.Quote:
The report I read said he was being tested on his way to training... And blew 0.09, I think anyone on their way to work should be expected to be sober.
Dont cunfuse the issue. No one on here is defending the DUI aspect of this. Everyone expects him to be punished in accordence with the law.Quote:
As for teachers, if I got rbt'd on the way to work and blew 0.09 I'd expect to be severely reprimanded, and not expect an support from the federation.
This is the quote I have a problem with. Alcohol affects everyone. So when doctors, teachers, judges etc give up the booze then by all means single out athletes. The fact that you have singled out athletes is exactly what I mean by higher standards. You lot may hold athletes up as some higher class but to me they are no more important that the other professions I have stated above. One rule for all I say.Quote:
I'd expect anyone whose job is hindered by alcohol to not consume it.
As for you Member:
Guess what, we ALL get paid 'x amount of dollars to do a job'. Alcohol effects ALL of us, why single out athletes who enjoy a beer on their day off?Quote:
The Knights pay him x amount of dollars a year to do a job.
OK so what do you mean by this? Form all reports Mason had a few drinks the day before a training session, you are equating this to someone being on the turps 7 days a week. Thats a stupid analogy. So are you saying that eating junk food the day before training or a game is a bad thing and not maximising his physical well being?Quote:
Pretty certain a NRL player wouldn't be tolerated dining through the week at KFC then Maccas then Hungry Jacks then the local Fish and Chipper, then the Kebab shop, then having a fry up Saturday before getting a pizza on Sunday as his diet wouldn't be maximising his physical well being. Why is alcohol consumption any different???
Before you answer that google 'Usain Bolt and Chicken Nuggets' you may find it interesting.
lol @ chicken nuggets. Next you will be telling us that it's possible to run 100m under ten seconds and not be on performance enhancing drugs.
HeheheQuote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
drugs or no drugs by the good Members' rationale if he ate proper food before his race he would have gone sub 7 sec!!!
Is Dillon pissed at HSG or what....
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But judging by an interview printed yesterday in the Knights’ official newspaper, the Daily Telegraph, the veteran forward is not anticipating disciplinary measures from the powers that be.
Should you be allowed to drink when not on the job - sure, especially when it is holiday season.
The problem I have is that Mason admits to "drinking 10 beers" and several spirits during the day before...his duty of care is that as a professional he should know that alcohol remains in the blood stream for a set period, and know that you don't have to feel drunk to be over the limit. He should also know that if he gets caught, no matter how innocent, then his history will be held against him and he'll cop it.
NRL players continue to have huge chunks of social skills missing from their mindset.
I agree with you Jetmaster, except for that last bit.
I reckon it's a problem with society in general, not just yer footy heads.
Huh? I'm thinking if anyone is blowing almost twice the legal limit, they're anywhere but sober and that anyone drinking that much that the next morning they are nearly twice the legal limit needs to know they just shouldn't get behind the wheel after such a drinking session.Quote:
Big difference between blowing a (reported) .09 the morning after vs not being 'sober'. This mistake is made by countless people every day from all walks of life.
not trying to confuse the issue, was trying to point out that if I as a teacher turned up to work drunk that I'd be in the shit.... Just like he should be, and that I would expect any help from anyone in dealing with the issue just like he shouldn't.Quote:
Dont cunfuse the issue. No one on here is defending the DUI aspect of this. Everyone expects him to be punished in accordence with the law.
Perhaps I wasn't clear then... I agree one rule for all, if your drinking impacts on your ability to perform your work, don't perform your duties while impacted by alcohol. Austronaught, bank teller, truck driver, labourer, professional athlete or tecaher. Not holding anyone higher than any other. I'm not saying don't drink at all, I'm saying don't drink at levels, or at times that impair your work.Quote:
This is the quote I have a problem with. Alcohol affects everyone. So when doctors, teachers, judges etc give up the booze then by all means single out athletes. The fact that you have singled out athletes is exactly what I mean by higher standards. You lot may hold athletes up as some higher class but to me they are no more important that the other professions I have stated above. One rule for all I say.
Pro athletes job includes preparing the body, alcohol impedes this.
Off the topic about willie mason
Everyone's thoughts on this auckland nines comp? I think its very fake the lack of defence will be a joke, some of the jerseys some teams are wearing are also embarrassing.
The T20 of league. Doesn't interest me one bit and doesn't hang around long enough to persuade me to start caring. Should probs keep an eye on it for supercoach purposes but really cbf
Yet so many nrl supporters are taking it seriousQuote:
Originally Posted by sh10
Auckland of all places is abit ridiculous tbh :sigh:
Probably coz they have nothing better to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Superdylan
Shit sport going nowhere.
What odds some club gets some bloke done for the season with an injury in it and then they start blowing up over the event being a two bit muck around and so and so's season is ruined coz of it??
High chance mateQuote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
http://ris.fashion.telegraph.co.uk/R...s_1779933a.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
Some jobs require you to be drunk for maximum performance.
Now THERES a bloke who should be running a sub 7 sec 100m.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
Ahhh - latest on Free Willie....
I don't know how it works but ABC said yesterday he is still on his P's !!!!Quote:
WILLIE Mason told police that he had about 20 beers and gin and tonics during an 11-hour drinking session on Australia Day before he finished up at 11.30pm ready for training with the Knights the next morning, court documents revealed.
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Mason did not attend Newcastle Local Court yesterday when a plea of guilty was entered on his behalf for mid-range drink-driving.
The front-rower was stopped for a random breath test at 7.05am on January 26 and police smelled alcohol on his breath, a statement of facts said.
Mason tested positive and was taken to Newcastle police station, where he gave a reading of 0.09, almost twice the legal limit. His licence was suspended and he will be sentenced on March 10.
The statement said Mason admitted to drinking 20 beers and gin and tonics between 12.30pm and 11.30pm on Australia Day. The drinking session ended at Newcastle nightspot the King Street Hotel.
Mason apologised via Twitter on the day of his arrest.
Before boarding the team bus yesterday for Tamworth, where the Knights will play a trial tomorrow against Canberra, he told NBN News that he regretted his actions.
‘‘I accept my wrongdoing and responsibility for it all,’’ he said. ‘‘That’s the law. I broke the law. Just deal with the consequences. I regret it.’’
He said the conviction was a ‘‘wake-up call’’.
‘‘A lot of people – not just rugby league players – have got in their car thinking they’re OK to drive.’’
Mason’s criminal record was tendered in court and included a conviction for offensive behaviour in 1999, which resulted in a $600 fine, and two driving offences in 2004.
His traffic record included 10 speeding offences and other minor infringements that resulted in fines and loss of demerit points.
Mason’s mishap continued a dismal pre-season for the Knights. Fellow prop Russell Packer is still in jail after he pleaded guilty to punching and stomping on the face of a man in Sydney in December.
Packer is appealing against the severity of the sentence.
Club official Ben Rogers is awaiting a hearing after pleading not guilty to assaulting two men outside Wests leagues club in September following a charity fund-raiser.
Forward Zane Tetevano was the subject of an AVO after police held concerns for the welfare of his girlfriend following an incident in December, but that order was revoked on the application of the girlfriend.
The Knights issued a statement yesterday in response to Mason’s conviction.
‘‘All our players are fully aware and understand their responsibilities and our expectations,’’ it said.
‘‘We continually educate our players on a wide range of social responsibilities and it is a priority to invest in these programs and workshops.’’
Every idiot knows 3 drinks in the first hour then 1 an hour after that puts you over the limit - anyway he has pleaded guilty.
Like how he says he's sorry then buggers off to play footy rather than front the court himself, probably thinks that will be enough to get him off.
And probably wrote himself off again.....
Breaking news: Ray Hadley beats his wife.
How is that even ****ing news? Seriously, the news that should be made is about the handful of rugby league meat heads who can count to 10.
Oh when the saints!
Go punchin' on!
Oh when the saints!
Go punchin' on!
I wanna be, in a bar, midweek, in the gong.
When the saints go punchin' on.
Interesting to see how this one is defended.
We was provoked.
We was drunk.
We was not drunk.
He looked at my girlfriend.
He said "go sharkies"
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/21...jersey/?cs=305
loving the hi-vis strip.
this is some of if not your best work mr fish.Quote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
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Just boys being boys
And,
We was just lettin' off steam
just letting off steam m8