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should have made kotara changeQuote:
Originally Posted by shark attack
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Originally Posted by shark attack
I reckon you could take that issue somewhere Sharkie...
Maybe try to email Otto C about it if you are concerned with the attitude.
Kotara AND Refs in orange? That's just nuts.
Kotara have a black and orange striped shirt. There is a fair bit of black on it. The ref wore a bright pink/red shirt, didnt look close to the kotara colour.Quote:
Originally Posted by Retro Jet
didnt look close? are you kidding. the ref had a bright red shirt a few shades away from orange. yes it was red but it was very close to the orange of kotara. nowhere near pink as football refs dont wear pink shirts like nrl refs.
and if it wasnt so close howcome all of the stocko team that was on the field thought he was kotara player and most of the kotara team, at a quick glance thought he was one of theirs. obviously you were on the sideline cause when youre on the field and you are making split second decisions and all youre looking for out of the corner of your eye is a colour or at least a shade close to it. an red shirt looks orange. which is what had most players on the field confused.
the attitude was bad from both referee and linesman when approached about this and quickly dismissed as 'we think its ok',
which is made even more outraegous when prior to kick off, our reserve goalkeeper warming up in an all yellow strip was told to change his shirt as it was 'too close' to the kotara orange strip. you tell me if that makes sense!?!?!
ffs kit clashes grind my gears so much.
back in the day i was walking past a local league afl game on the way to watching the mrs play netball, and i managed to see the end of one game and the start of the next. in the first game it was a blue team vs a yellow team, the refs wore orange shirts, grey (with orange trim) shorts & orange socks. the next game came out and one team was blue, the other team was orange. the refs went into their little change room and came out wearing all grey.
for starters - why aren't our referees this organised?
secondly - why don't refs have fully grey outfits? barely any teams actually wear grey - they're near guarenteed to never clash. pretty sure champs league refs do, or used to, wear all grey. the only people i recall wearing grey in newcastle are keepers - i reckon if refs basically always wore grey it would be such less of a hassle.
also in regards to the stockton/kotara game - pretty sure you're allowed to refuse to play if the ref clashes. he needs to go get a green bib or something. i was under the impression they all had to bring at least two different coloured shirts to all games - i would have been fuming if i was you guys.
http://refsworld.com/media/catalog/p...so-for-web.jpg
is this the 'orange' shirt in question?
Maybe somebody should start a referee thread?
Anyone got any news on the rescheduling of washed out games?
Orange and that coloured red would look pretty close during a night game...Quote:
Originally Posted by reserveGK22
Sometimes we need to use a little common sense
try being colour blind where any strip of similar shade looks the same. I struggle with red vs green and any hot colour vs any other hot colour its a nightmare sometimes.
Going by the website, all games have just been pushed back a week to this Wednesday coming.
should have just played skinsQuote:
Originally Posted by rolo
Regarding stockton v kotara, different people are always going to have different interpretations. Some have said the kotara kit is orange, some said its orange/black stripes. Some said the ref was orange/pink/red. The stockton shorts are red, could that be a reason to change too? Here's one for you, the refs brushed it off as they thought the comment about their shirts was meant as a "you're favouring kotara with your decisions so you may as well have one of their shirts on".
As for confusing the ref with a player, i doubt the kotara kit comes in a size big enough to cater for that particular official. Shouldn't really be getting anything confused there
hi guys at no point have we or are we going to say kotara had 12 players playing for them , this is beside the point , all we are trying to get accross is if we have match tap to our colours and skins why cant the refs were nutral colours , i spoke to lines man about this during the 1st half and they did have 2 coloured uniforms , when platys ( maroon / white ) played the bay ( yellow / black ) they wore blue shirts , after asking the lines man during the 1st half to ask the ref at half time can he change his shirt the lines man said we have only blue shirts and were happy with what were wearing , i said to be funny about it were them and see what kotara say. by the way we were blue shorts with a red strip down the side. enough said , kotara was all we expected , we led early in the game but only for kotara to take a 2 - 1 half time led. kotara threw everyting at us in the 1st half and can say some great saves from our keeper gept us in the game at half time. second half was fairly even and we were starting to play some good football , 15 to go we made it 2 - 2 and from there came home really stong and unlucky not to win it from there. well done to kotara in the end we had 2 chances to win the shoot out but you guys came through strong.
we can all whinge about little facts about the game
there are too many little stupid rules in an amateur saturday competition like most of us play.
an example of this is when we played stockton in state cup
every player in our team had to remove tape that they were wearing as it was not purple. even those wth a blue that is close to purple. also the white tape which is the colour of our shorts and clearly opposes the yellow socks of stockton.
yet many stockton players wore black tape on yellow socks.
alot of stupid rules like this, but u just have to deal with it.
realistically it would affect kotara more wouldnt it cause ur not going to want to pass the ball to the opposition.
Not a single person from Stockton wore anything other than yellow tape. Every single person had to remove their tape if it wasn't yellow including myself who had black tape so you are wrong. And when you are making split second decisions the red/pink ref shirt was very hard to distinguish.Quote:
Originally Posted by true waterboy
All in all was a tough game. Stocko probably played a little under par and was tough into the wind. One mistake cost a goal. Kotara controlled the midfield but didn't create too many chances whereas Stockton got them on the counter. Was a fair result in normal time just a shame it had to be settled on pens would have been nice to see what happened if there was and extra 20/30 mins
how many different coloured tapes can you get.. what do people do with socks that are 2 coloured?.
and whats the rules on skins ? same colours as shorts? because im telling you now some teams aren't going to be able to find skins in there shorts colours so how is that fair?
Why are we still having this problem with undergarments(not necessarily skins)-the rule is not new,having been in for the last 3 years at least so teams should be up to date with that rule.As far as tape is concerned,the rule starts this season as laid down by FIFA and having been adopted by FFA and NFF and ID that tape has to be the same colour as the socks-as for 2 coloured socks there is no problem-the tape has to be the same as the main colour and if striped (say black and white)then blind freddy could tell you that black tape goes on the black stripe or white tape goes on the white stripe.How difficult is that.I am convinced that some people come onto this forum just looking to create trouble.Wouldnt it be easier all round if people just accepted the law changes and went out and played the game for enjoyment.Referees are there for the same reason(enjoyment)in the main-but rules are rules so players should not complain if their attempts to circumvent the rules dont work.Quote:
Originally Posted by ace22
Agree. It's not our local refs who have made these law changes re tape on socks etc. It has been mandated by FIFA and referees in local jurisdictions throughout the world have been instructed to ensure the new rules are applied. FFS all you whingers, go out and buy the correct tape (or tapes) before your match so the officials can concentrate on officiating football. I'm sure they don't enjoy chatting players unnecessarily about incorrect attire/kit during warm ups. Grow up and take some responsibility and comply with what FIFA has made law. Give the refs a break.Quote:
Originally Posted by outsider
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Originally Posted by outsider
after playing alot of soccer as a junior. an 8 or so year absence and i was genuinely unaware to all this. so when i ask questions im actually wanting to no things. not being a smartarse or having a go at any refs. they dont set the rules.
after playing yesterday with the refs wearing red/orange shirts - I'd be fuming if they wore that when a team was wearing orange also.
Christ there r some whingers on here , I havent heard one person from kotara have a cry , If it was that bad It would diasadvantge them just as much
Mate we are just saying that if refs wanna enforce stupid rules like tape being the same as your socks then surely they can wear a neutral colour.Quote:
Originally Posted by roundballsarebetter
That being said I'm the first to admit that kotara probably controlled the game better although Stockton took their chances well. All in all a fair result.
And Im sure they would have wore a neutral colour had kotara complained ( since im pretty sure stockton would only wanna pass the ball to a blue colour). Sounds like one club having a cry at a small thing ( considering the 1st thing we heard from anyone from stockton was this massive travisty of justice and not a actual match report)Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilso8948
calm your farm you toss.
I sense a GFC coming on again.
Whipe ya chin mate
And just so you know kotara bench and many players on the field made mention to the officials on the night and were dismissed. So obviously it was affecting more than just one team. I'm all for supporting the refs and doing their jobs but when you try and go about things and doing them the right way and the refs respond with mocking tones and smart ass comments it's kind of annoying considering we are paying them. Some of them definately have a complex when it comes to being approached and I GUARANTEE I'm not the only one that has found this.
Well done kotara tho. At no point has any of us taken anything away from kotara. Merely discussing our opinions on an open forum which I thought this was for. Not bagging and slagging people comments and opinions like you have come on and done.
And back to the State Cup
Tuesday 9th April – Mayfield Park (Crebert Street, Mayfield)
New Lambton Eagles FC v Newcastle Uni Mens FC (ZPL) – 6.30pm
Barnsley United SSC v Mayfield United FC (ZPL) – 8.00pm
Wednesday 10th April – Tarro Park (Anderson Drive, Tarro)
Warners Bay FC v Beresfield FC (ZL3) – 6.30pm
Cooks Hill United FC (ZPL) v Muswellbrook FC – 8.00pm
Wednesday 10th April – Lance York Oval (Myall Road, Garden Suburb)
Cooks Hill United FC (ZL3) v Garden Suburb FC – 7.00pm
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Originally Posted by rolo
i do agree with the point, gkeepers, refs, bboys, canteen people need to be in differing colours from both teams. Saves excuses later.
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Originally Posted by oneeye
anyone got any results?
University 2 New Lambton 0Quote:
Originally Posted by ace22
Mayfield 2 Barnsley 0
anyone got any match reports. havent heard to much about premier league teams in a while.
interesting to see how those games panned out.
Mayfield V Barnsley was a pretty good hit out in my opinion. honestly thought game could have gone either way. Mayfield took their chances mid way thru the second half.Quote:
Originally Posted by ace22
Results from Tarro Park
Beresfield FC 2- WBay 1
Muswellbrook 2- cooks hill ZPL 2 Muswellbrook won on pens
Results I heard from SOuthy tonight:
Edgy 4 - 0 Adamstown
Southy 0 - 4 Lakes
No idea, I didn't goQuote:
Originally Posted by EH9
These seriuos results? can anyone provide more info on game details and whether ZPL teams were at full strengthQuote:
Originally Posted by sharky21
Yes serious results saw the Muswellbrook game. but not the Bero but as I know a lot of the Bero I was told by them.Quote:
Originally Posted by thistle07
As for full strength opponents I know nothing about both teams so can't comment on that.